Flapjak Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 (edited) Dear developers. while I deeply understand this game is new and alot of bugs are being worked out, one thing that particularly dissapointed me was the lack of UI ques on key abilitys used by each spec. Wow already got past this by placing in a que when a special ability key to rotation was ready via proc. I.E sheild slam for prot warriors or Mealstrom weapon for Enhance shamans. What I would think myself and 90% of the community would love to see is such a thing where we dont have to look down at our bar to see if Stockstrike for exsample just came off CD for use as a tanking Vangaurd/powertech or High Impact Bolt/Rail Shot gets its free crit as a tactics Vangaurd/Advanced Prototype Powertech. Now I call upon the community to forward this change, no longer will we have to continuously glance down at our buff bar for procs, or our action bar for abilitys wich come off CD via procs.TODAY WE STAND! D:<<< Edited January 26, 2012 by Flapjak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ross_deutsch Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 I would like to see that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicalPremise Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Dear developers. while I deeply understand this game is new and alot of bugs are being worked out, one thing that particularly dissapointed me was the lack of UI ques on key abilitys used by each spec. Wow already got past this by placing in a que when a special ability key to rotation was ready via proc. I.E sheild slam for prot warriors or Mealstrom weapon for Enhance shamans. What I would think myself and 90% of the community would love to see is such a thing where we dont have to look down at our bar to see if Stockstrike for exsample just came off CD for use as a tanking Vangaurd/powertech or High Impact Bolt/Rail Shot gets its free crit as a tactics Vangaurd/Advanced Prototype Powertech. Now I call upon the community to forward this change, no longer will we have to continuously glance down at our buff bar for procs, or our action bar for abilitys wich come off CD via procs.TODAY WE STAND! D:<<< Someone will bash this for coming from WoW. Someone will accuse you of being lazy. Someone will suggest there are more important features. No one will actually bother discussing pros and cons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loqe Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Let me be the first to call out the lazy then. Please don't call for this lazy-mans change. It's not exactly hard or takes a long time to glance down at your hotbar and hit the right key. You should probably look over your own UI instead and see if you can place them better so you don't miss them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flapjak Posted January 25, 2012 Author Share Posted January 25, 2012 Someone will bash this for coming from WoW. Someone will accuse you of being lazy. Someone will suggest there are more important features. No one will actually bother discussing pros and cons. Oh I dont care if anyone bashed it for coming from wow. If they dont do it themselves then there will be Add ons for it anyway but that means I have to play my game on a lower setting. As for Pros and cons the Pros are obvious, less focusing on your U.I and more focusing on what your doing wich will help in the experience. The cons are uhm... less challange for those who like to Multitask? My point is this game is supposed to be the pinnical of MMOs and they havent even streamlined the U.I with such innovations as proc alerts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugarray Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Let me be the first to call out the lazy then. Please don't call for this lazy-mans change. It's not exactly hard or takes a long time to glance down at your hotbar and hit the right key. You should probably look over your own UI instead and see if you can place them better so you don't miss them. Guess you never played Shadow. You are quite likely to miss some fast pace interruptions both in PvE and especially in PvP, because alot of your abilities are best used via proc's SS etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loqe Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Guess you never played Shadow. You are quite likely to miss some fast pace interruptions both in PvE and especially in PvP, because alot of your abilities are best used via proc's SS etc. I play Sentinel, what's that again about interrupts and other state-change abilities? /sarcasm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black_Rabbit Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 If this is what I think, then it is ESSENTIAL, not lazy. As a Sage, I have got a trigger ability that gives me a free shot from my sacrifice (Or whatever is called) skill, which means I recharge force without loosing health, however this can be so only by a random of 50% when using another healing skill, and as it stands, there is no way for me to tell in a middle of a fight when I have this bonus, so if the skill would "glow" to tell me, it would make things so much easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flapjak Posted January 25, 2012 Author Share Posted January 25, 2012 Oh I dont care if anyone bashed it for coming from wow. If they dont do it themselves then there will be Add ons for it anyway but that means I have to play my game on a lower setting. As for Pros and cons the Pros are obvious, less focusing on your U.I and more focusing on what your doing wich will help in the experience. The cons are uhm... less challange for those who like to Multitask? My point is this game is supposed to be the pinnical of MMOs and they havent even streamlined the U.I with such innovations as proc alerts. Yes because during a rotation I def want to scan my full buff bar for my crit proc on High Impact bolt to see if the ability I just used procced an autocrit for my next ability. Allow me to explain. Other than Hammershot/Ion blast my rotation is Gut-Firepulse-Stockstrike((Firepulse makes stockstrike free)) and then maybe or maybe not high impact bolt. now Gut and Stockstrike have a 25 percent chance to make my High Impact bolt crit for free, but its useless if there is no proc. But if I dont use it emmediatly after Stockstrike when it does proc it screws up the rotation. While im looking down the adds spawned and ate the healer. Ty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnivvale Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 I'm all for this change. A parallel solution for some players would be to introduce macros. If I can add these abilities to a macro, then I can set their priority and automatically use them without monitoring their readiness at all. I cannot overstate how badly I want macros in this game. I understand that some people dislike using macros, and that's fine. However, for a segment of the MMO community they are as indispensable as voice communication (ventrilo). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asnine Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Let me be the first to call out the lazy then. Please don't call for this lazy-mans change. It's not exactly hard or takes a long time to glance down at your hotbar and hit the right key. You should probably look over your own UI instead and see if you can place them better so you don't miss them. You mean the UI where I can't move any of the hotbars around? You mean the UI where I can't customize anything? /pwned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archifikoss Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 I'd like a "proc indicator" a bit like it was done in WoW - as long as it looks a little better and more "Star Wars-y"... It would keep our eyes on the action more than the action bar, hehe Also... I'd like a better indicator for DoTs, HoTs etc... Maybe the icon could flash a few seconds before the effect expires or something? Purely for ease of use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikolu Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 I play Sentinel, what's that again about interrupts and other state-change abilities? /sarcasm Do you play on a 16 inch monitor at 800x640 res or something? Watching for raze, exploit weakness, and dot timers as madness with these little tiny icons is pretty obnoxious in my opinion, they are tiny and in a raid setting there are so many debuffs and buffs finding yours is annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loqe Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 You mean the UI where I can't move any of the hotbars around? You mean the UI where I can't customize anything? /pwned *shrug* Placement of the skills ON your hotbars of course, I'd like to move the hotbars too some day, but as of yet not possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flapjak Posted January 25, 2012 Author Share Posted January 25, 2012 Do you play on a 16 inch monitor at 800x640 res or something? Watching for raze, exploit weakness, and dot timers as madness with these little tiny icons is pretty obnoxious in my opinion, they are tiny and in a raid setting there are so many debuffs and buffs finding yours is annoying. Yeah, a debuff alert would also be nice *cough* certain boss in False Emp *cough* 2 seconds till death *cough* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loqe Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Do you play on a 16 inch monitor at 800x640 res or something? Watching for raze, exploit weakness, and dot timers as madness with these little tiny icons is pretty obnoxious in my opinion, they are tiny and in a raid setting there are so many debuffs and buffs finding yours is annoying. I play on a 22" @ 1680x1050, guess I just know what to look for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xiatra Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 I have a sorceror and a powertech, and i approve this message. I would love to be able to acually look at the game when playing, instead of looking at my buff and ability bars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flapjak Posted January 25, 2012 Author Share Posted January 25, 2012 *shrug* Placement of the skills ON your hotbars of course, I'd like to move the hotbars too some day, but as of yet not possible. Well when it comes down to it, would you rather have to rely on add-ons wich hinder your experience or a built in custom U.I? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flapjak Posted January 25, 2012 Author Share Posted January 25, 2012 I have a sorceror and a powertech, and i approve this message. I would love to be able to acually look at the game when playing, instead of looking at my buff and ability bars. Nu! for all but Sorcs *flees from the hordes of them in BGs!* TOT lightning everywhere! naw Jking, but seriously I can believe Sorc/sages have it even tougher than a DPS Vangaurd/Powertech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikolu Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 I play on a 22" @ 1680x1050, guess I just know what to look for. Maybe try some group combat? Don't know what to tell you. If you srsly think the size of the proc icons, which get shuffled amongst all your other buffs, isn't a problem then you are either just staring at the bar and not the fight, or you are just to pro for this game. For example, raze is a little brown icon that looks like 3 other buffs you regularly have in a group, using raze properly is a huge dps increase, crushing darkness is a monster dot for madness assassins, getting it for free is important, missing that its up, is a big loss. I've had 4 rows of buffs in group play. I should be able to tell a glance that I have a proc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flapjak Posted January 25, 2012 Author Share Posted January 25, 2012 (edited) Maybe try some group combat? Don't know what to tell you. If you srsly think the size of the proc icons, which get shuffled amongst all your other buffs, isn't a problem then you are either just staring at the bar and not the fight, or you are just to pro for this game. For example, raze is a little brown icon that looks like 3 other buffs you regularly have in a group, using raze properly is a huge dps increase, crushing darkness is a monster dot for madness assassins, getting it for free is important, missing that its up, is a big loss. I've had 4 rows of buffs in group play. I should be able to tell a glance that I have a proc. Good to see more reasons, I can imagine when you have stims and full buffs along with everything else ((Forms, ect)) it can get crazy! Edited January 25, 2012 by Flapjak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pvtcarnage Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 They just need to add macros and addons already, And if you don't like it don't use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KTheAlchemist Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Let me be the first to call out the lazy then. Please don't call for this lazy-mans change. It's not exactly hard or takes a long time to glance down at your hotbar and hit the right key. You should probably look over your own UI instead and see if you can place them better so you don't miss them. I'm sorry, but I wasn't aware that staring at your ability bar took such effort that you could quantify laziness or a lack thereof by it. ...really? Both methods involve watching and paying attention to what's going on. HUD style signals simply let you watch the actual graphics of the game instead of the bar of buttons. If the bar of buttons is in some way exciting to you, I bet nothing will stop you from still watching it. ...place them? Until they allow better customization there's nowhere you can place them but the sides and bottom. Not sure if serious... Either way, it was a fairly fail response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GratefulDead Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 I'm all for more visual indicators of procs. On the Merc, whenever Barrage procs you get a swirling yellow circle all around your body, no need to look anywhere on the screen except at your character to know that Unload is now up and ready. More of these effects would be perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ITSAmeee Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 or they could allow addons for interface modifications PowerAuras was originally an addon, and still is, in WoW before they introduced procs visuals as part of the game <3 Addons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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