Hobojones Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 For logitech users running windows 7 I had to setup my mouse acceleration to off, set speed to low (crawls across windows on the monitor), allow settings ingame, and for user accounts disable controls, and it is finally usable. If you don't disable the user account controls in windows 7 it will not allow the mouse settings to carry into game (may want to try this for other mouse setups like naga) Hope this helps! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shlamorel Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 My boyfriend is having the same issue with his mouse, but I am not. He uses a laser naga mouse, I just use a plain ole optical mouse. Is it possible that this is occuring in laser mice only or mostly? Sorry if you've already addressed it, but honestly I didn't read all 7 pages of this thread. I just wanted to throw out that yes, many people are experiencing this issue (and bumpin this post). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinworms Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 I use a Razer Naga as well. Sensitivity at 1% and still almost uncontrollable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh_Jass Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Same issue here. Mouse acceleration needs to be fixed. This is unacceptable for a game that has been in development for this long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omgJOHN Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Count me in the group of people having this issue as well. I have a Microsoft Sidewinder mouse, which I don't think I've seen anyone mention. The game runs fairly well for the most part in high settings, so I'm not sure why I should have to lower all my settings to get better controls, which doesn't even really fix things. The sensitivity is just insane. Surprised to hear it was a problem in the beta too. Makes me think it may be a deeper problem than we suspect and could be difficult to fix. Still, there really is no excuse to not fix this. It's completely awful, and the biggest blemish on an otherwise fine game. At least to me anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AIox Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Just like in the beta, the camera is literally uncontrollable. Even with the camera speed set to 1% it tough to control. At 50% it is laughable...moving my mouse 1cm literally spins the camera 20 times around my character. This is with my mouse (Razer Naga) at the lowest possible DPI. This was an issue in the beta, but I was hoping it would be fixed by now. This makes the game tough to play...not impossible, but I'd rather go play something else, with this issue. Video (keep in mind this is with very small movements of the mouse): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AiNVi-tdsw EDIT: Second video -- explained on second page: Set my DPI to my normal setting (1800) then moved the mouse about 3" slowly across my mouse pad. This is the result: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RC2hX4z6Qw I have my ingame sensitivity set to 0. Otherwise I get a twitchy motion and randomly it decides to skip 90* and it feels like there is mouse smoothing enabled. (And as its Bioware, they tend not to fix issues) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh_Jass Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 I'm at work so I cannot currently check, however, after doing some google searches for INI tweaks for mouse smoothing/acceleration, I came up with this these ini tweaks for other games that may or may not hold true for SWTOR. If someone could try and report back, it would be greatly appreciated. These settings would all have to be added to the bottom of the ini folder, saved, then changed to READ ONLY (So launching the game doesn't revert them back). bMouseAcceleration=0 Another option is: bEnableMouseSmoothing=False Another option is: fForegroundMouseAccelBase=0 fForegroundMouseAccelTop=0 fForegroundMouseBase=0 fForegroundMouseMult=0 Another option is: [Engine.PlayerInput] MouseSmoothingMode=0 MouseAccelThreshold=0.0 I will continue to look for more ways to fix this until the devs finally figure it out themselves. If you have any question how to access your ini folder and change these settings please ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melcene Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 I finally got into the EGA yesterday, and found that I had to turn my sensitivity up just a tad, which was a big surprise given how it was during beta. I think they've definitely fine tuned it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morikk Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 So has any1 found a solution to this, i really need to get my mouse sens down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh_Jass Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 I'm at work so I cannot currently check, however, after doing some google searches for INI tweaks for mouse smoothing/acceleration, I came up with this these ini tweaks for other games that may or may not hold true for SWTOR. If someone could try and report back, it would be greatly appreciated. These settings would all have to be added to the bottom of the ini folder, saved, then changed to READ ONLY (So launching the game doesn't revert them back). bMouseAcceleration=0 Another option is: bEnableMouseSmoothing=False Another option is: fForegroundMouseAccelBase=0 fForegroundMouseAccelTop=0 fForegroundMouseBase=0 fForegroundMouseMult=0 Another option is: [Engine.PlayerInput] MouseSmoothingMode=0 MouseAccelThreshold=0.0 I will continue to look for more ways to fix this until the devs finally figure it out themselves. If you have any question how to access your ini folder and change these settings please ask. Not really a "solution" per se, yet. If anyone can try this though, it might help eliminate some ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AIox Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 (edited) Not really a "solution" per se, yet. If anyone can try this though, it might help eliminate some ideas. There isnt even an ini to tweak. I finally got into the EGA yesterday, and found that I had to turn my sensitivity up just a tad, which was a big surprise given how it was during beta. I think they've definitely fine tuned it. I have it set to 0, you're talking for yourself. Edited December 16, 2011 by AIox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeeeeee Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 I have the same issue, and I'm just using a standard Microsoft optical mouse. No mouse look sensitivity slider as I would have expected to find. Turning camera rotation way down as well as windows mouse settings made no difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheiba Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 omg are they insane, where is the ini file and what setting do I change? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frigidman Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 I think they've definitely fine tuned it. I'll beg to differ on that notion. If they "definitely" fine tuned it, then people wouldn't be having issues, and the norm wouldn't be 0-6%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheiba Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 So the solution is. Exit game. Go to: C:\Users\$username\AppData\Local\SWTOR\swtor\settings\$account_name.ini change: Controls_CameraRotationSpeed = to 0.01 - 0.01 Personally found 0.01 to be too slow. Hf guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh_Jass Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Can anyone confirm this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheiba Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Can anyone confirm this? I just told you the solution, took me like 5mins to figure it out. Trying 0.015 now @1800dpi, found 0.02 too fast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh_Jass Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Ok, so this disables the Mouse Acceleration problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheiba Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Ok, so this disables the Mouse Acceleration problem? No this changes the sensitivity, I'm not aware of any Mouse Acceleration problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh_Jass Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Yes, Mouse acceleration is enabled and it should not. To some people, it's hard to notice, however to players who are used to fast paced FPS's and whatnot, mouse acceleration is very noticable and an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AIox Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Yes, Mouse acceleration is enabled and it should not. To some people, it's hard to notice, however to players who are used to fast paced FPS's and whatnot, mouse acceleration is very noticable and an issue. I have my sens set at 0 (I shouldnt even be able to look around at such a digit) and yet I find it very sensitive, it has the "smoothing" and "acceleration" feel to it. Its horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheiba Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 I have my sens set at 0 (I shouldnt even be able to look around at such a digit) and yet I find it very sensitive, it has the "smoothing" and "acceleration" feel to it. Its horrible. If your using the ingame slider to "set it to 0" it's simply reverting to 0.1, you will have to actually edit the file go get lower than 0.1 There definitely isn't any acceleration happening with the mouse, however it is very funky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AIox Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 If your using the ingame slider to "set it to 0" it's simply reverting to 0.1, you will have to actually edit the file go get lower than 0.1 There definitely isn't any acceleration happening with the mouse, however it is very funky. The slower you move, the slower the mouse moves. The faster you move the faster it moves. When it should have the same speed no matter how little or big movements you do. There is definately acceleration (or EXTREME smoothing) present. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frigidman Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 The slower you move, the slower the mouse moves. The faster you move the faster it moves. When it should have the same speed no matter how little or big movements you do. There is definately acceleration (or EXTREME smoothing) present. Yeah, for those who have played a lot of FPS games, its noticeable when acceleration is on. Kind of glaringly noticeable. They do have it on in this game, with no options to adjust or turn it off that I've found (yet). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omgJOHN Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 (edited) I am agreeing with it not just being a sensitivity issue, but a response issue. If it was that problem, just reducing sensitivity would fix it. However, that's not the only problem. There is a noticeable delay when looking around. I'm also a pretty big FPS player, so it was completely obvious the moment I started using the camera controls. The sensitivity is still an issue. You shouldn't have to reduce to a setting not even possible within the game to make it reasonable. [EDIT] Just wanted to make a note, that using the menus and normal mouse controls are perfectly responsive. I have no problem with those. It is clearly a camera issue. Edited December 16, 2011 by omgJOHN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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