mrshadowbg Posted January 23, 2012 Posted January 23, 2012 As title says - after 25 mins being on Ilum I have killed 1 republic and managed to find and get only 1 armament (like 20 more Imps camping the armaments). Where's the "world" pvp in this and why I should spend like what it seems 3+ hours to do a SINGLE daily? This needs BW respons immediately! My suggestion is to lower the requirements to 10 and no more. What you think about this guys and gals?
inseeisyou Posted January 23, 2012 Posted January 23, 2012 As title says - after 25 mins being on Ilum I have killed 1 republic and managed to find and get only 1 armament (like 20 more Imps camping the armaments). Where's the "world" pvp in this and why I should spend like what it seems 3+ hours to do a SINGLE daily? This needs BW respons immediately! My suggestion is to lower the requirements to 10 and no more. What you think about this guys and gals? Sounds like all you need to do is start a Republic toon and there will be plenty of those 20+ imps running around camping armaments for you to kill!
Iret Posted January 23, 2012 Posted January 23, 2012 As title says - after 25 mins being on Ilum I have killed 1 republic and managed to find and get only 1 armament (like 20 more Imps camping the armaments). Where's the "world" pvp in this and why I should spend like what it seems 3+ hours to do a SINGLE daily? This needs BW respons immediately! My suggestion is to lower the requirements to 10 and no more. What you think about this guys and gals? You just answered youre own question. you can blame the rest of your sith buddies who decided to camp outside the rebel base and outnumber us, wheres the fun in that? 20 of u vs 5 of us?? thx but no thx, Of course we wont come to illum anymore we aren't stupid...
DJCobbSalad Posted January 23, 2012 Posted January 23, 2012 I agree it's pretty rough. I went to Ilum 3 different times yesterday to try and do the daily, all 3 times (including 11:30pm PT) there were at least 8-10 other Imps (often more) already circling the armaments area making it near impossible to get one. I ended up getting about 5 total in the combined 90+ minutes I spent in the zone over those 3 visits. At this point I would consider the "Daily" 30 requirement a weekly, and the weekly 120 requirement a monthly.
Matteis Posted January 23, 2012 Posted January 23, 2012 Sounds like all you need to do is start a Republic toon and there will be plenty of those 20+ imps running around camping armaments for you to kill! Exactly my thoughts. OP is just part of the problem
Iret Posted January 23, 2012 Posted January 23, 2012 im quite amazed how many ppl dont realise that Sith outnumber rebels 70% to 30%
Raehj Posted January 23, 2012 Posted January 23, 2012 As title says - after 25 mins being on Ilum I have killed 1 republic and managed to find and get only 1 armament (like 20 more Imps camping the armaments). Where's the "world" pvp in this and why I should spend like what it seems 3+ hours to do a SINGLE daily? This needs BW respons immediately! My suggestion is to lower the requirements to 10 and no more. What you think about this guys and gals? I disagree. I don't think 10 for a chance at uber gear is equatable to winning 3 WZ's. What disturbs me most about these kinds of posts is how people just seem to "forget" other MMO's open world PvP. It's never been balanced (player count wise) in any game, because its open world. I also think that once more people get to fifty, and once ability/ui lag gets fixed Ilum will become more and more populace. (Also when people realize its best to queue for WZ's while hanging in Ilum's contested areas, as they get a buff that gives you more Valor per WZ completion)
mrshadowbg Posted January 23, 2012 Author Posted January 23, 2012 How come only trolls can answer such threads? IF I WANTED TO PLAY SOME JEDI I WOULD. That's not the questions and it's not my fault that BW can't create possible dailies. And not my fault that there is faction imbalance. BW can do tons of stuff to balance factions but they don't really care... All I want is dailies that I can do in some normal amount of time ~15 mins is quite normal. That way leaving you with tons of times for other stuff - like other dailies, PvP (in warzones) and so on. Now if you want the bag you have to spend a night farming it - and that's STUPID. If you trolls can't see the point - go to doctor to check your eyes!
Tiam Posted January 23, 2012 Posted January 23, 2012 BW have no clue how to make an open pvp vs's area so they may as well turn it into a free for all pvp area.
illgot Posted January 23, 2012 Posted January 23, 2012 on my server it's not unusual for smarter players to just follow the rebels around recapping locations.
Ancientwolfgr Posted January 23, 2012 Posted January 23, 2012 How come only trolls can answer such threads? IF I WANTED TO PLAY SOME JEDI I WOULD. That's not the questions and it's not my fault that BW can't create possible dailies. And not my fault that there is faction imbalance. BW can do tons of stuff to balance factions but they don't really care... All I want is dailies that I can do in some normal amount of time ~15 mins is quite normal. That way leaving you with tons of times for other stuff - like other dailies, PvP (in warzones) and so on. Now if you want the bag you have to spend a night farming it - and that's STUPID. If you trolls can't see the point - go to doctor to check your eyes! It's not the game, the balance, or an over expectant daily. It's you wanting to jack through it daily in less than 3 hours. Ever heard of 5 hours for .1 skill points? Probably not. You wont see greater numbers of opposition if the zone is always considered "hot". General chat and some community involvement can go a long way to giving the opposition a chance to work up somewhat- its what sportsmanship is all about, unless you embrace the zerg/no challenge crowd. 15 minutes? I hope you don't put that little effort into the girlfriend, you are ruining the curve if you do, although making some of us look quite godly. <jk>
Iret Posted January 23, 2012 Posted January 23, 2012 How come only trolls can answer such threads? IF I WANTED TO PLAY SOME JEDI I WOULD. That's not the questions and it's not my fault that BW can't create possible dailies. And not my fault that there is faction imbalance. BW can do tons of stuff to balance factions but they don't really care... All I want is dailies that I can do in some normal amount of time ~15 mins is quite normal. That way leaving you with tons of times for other stuff - like other dailies, PvP (in warzones) and so on. Now if you want the bag you have to spend a night farming it - and that's STUPID. If you trolls can't see the point - go to doctor to check your eyes! I have checked my eyes, i got perfect vision. cry me a river, so you cant get a bag in 15 mins now? too bad. DEAL WITH IT. play PvP and grind like the rest of us. YES Bioware screwed up Illum big time and NO it it not youre fault directly, but you can certainly place part of the blame on all the imps who decided to baserape us prepatch and make it so no rebels bother traveling to illum now.
Cameirus Posted January 23, 2012 Posted January 23, 2012 As title says - after 25 mins being on Ilum I have killed 1 republic and managed to find and get only 1 armament (like 20 more Imps camping the armaments). Where's the "world" pvp in this and why I should spend like what it seems 3+ hours to do a SINGLE daily? This needs BW respons immediately! My suggestion is to lower the requirements to 10 and no more. What you think about this guys and gals? you went sith...and you are complaining? lol. You knew that sith was the zerg faction, you knew this would happen and you complain? Why woudl reps go to illum? So they can get chain ganked by 20 imps and just spend their time ressing? Screw that. faction imbalance will kill pvp in this game, the zerg faction gears up faster, gets better gear and dominates pvp matches, people roll with the zerg making it worse and worse...eventually there is only 1 faction on a server. In wow there were horde or alliance servers, but very rarely was there a balanced one. But in swtor, I've yet to come across a server where republic outnumber imperials, some are better than others, but a 60/40 split is the best I've seen and many are 80/20 or worse.
Brickabrack Posted January 23, 2012 Posted January 23, 2012 sounds like all you need to do is start a republic toon and there will be plenty of those 20+ imps running around camping armaments for you to kill! ^ this
Lyability Posted January 23, 2012 Posted January 23, 2012 on my server it's not unusual for smarter players to just follow the rebels around recapping locations. LOL, warhammer! I don't have a 50 but is that what Ilum is? That was so fail in warhammer, and so exploitable. Just play nice with the other side and both sides win.
mrshadowbg Posted January 23, 2012 Author Posted January 23, 2012 I have checked my eyes, i got perfect vision. cry me a river, so you cant get a bag in 15 mins now? too bad. DEAL WITH IT. play PvP and grind like the rest of us. YES Bioware screwed up Illum big time and NO it it not youre fault directly, but you can certainly place part of the blame on all the imps who decided to baserape us prepatch and make it so no rebels bother traveling to illum now. Why you kiddies just have to come here saying stupid stuff? Maybe some people PAY for this game just the SAME as you do but have LESS time than you? And we want to be able to do the basic stuff like all else. DAILY means that - you come after work and you have time to do your dailies and some other general stuff. BROKEN DAILY is what BW created trying to "promote" the PvP in Ilum. Only thing that can actually do anything about the PvP on Ilum is if they STOP people from creating empire chars and that is not going to happen. So why not just scratch that daily? If you don't have to anything constructive to say about the Ilum daily but your ****** opinions like "roll republic" or "it's meant to be farmed for 10 hours" then go and create your own thread.
Supercaptain Posted January 23, 2012 Posted January 23, 2012 It's not the game, the balance, or an over expectant daily. It's you wanting to jack through it daily in less than 3 hours. Ever heard of 5 hours for .1 skill points? Probably not. You wont see greater numbers of opposition if the zone is always considered "hot". General chat and some community involvement can go a long way to giving the opposition a chance to work up somewhat- its what sportsmanship is all about, unless you embrace the zerg/no challenge crowd. 15 minutes? I hope you don't put that little effort into the girlfriend, you are ruining the curve if you do, although making some of us look quite godly. <jk> Go play vanilla everquest on a private server if you want to beat your head against a wall for hours to accomplish the most minuscule of things. For people like us casuals that want to make progress and still have time for stuff outside the game (you do know we make about the majority of the base paying to play this game), we'd like the requirement to be reduced to something that can be completed in 30-60 mins LIKE A DAILY SHOULD BE.
Srqt Posted January 23, 2012 Posted January 23, 2012 (edited) How come only trolls can answer such threads? IF I WANTED TO PLAY SOME JEDI I WOULD. That's not the questions and it's not my fault that BW can't create possible dailies. And not my fault that there is faction imbalance. BW can do tons of stuff to balance factions but they don't really care... All I want is dailies that I can do in some normal amount of time ~15 mins is quite normal. That way leaving you with tons of times for other stuff - like other dailies, PvP (in warzones) and so on. Now if you want the bag you have to spend a night farming it - and that's STUPID. If you trolls can't see the point - go to doctor to check your eyes! Bioware can't make people roll republic. I guess other people don't want to play "some jedi" either. If you want to roll on the more populated faction you have to take the good with the bad just like any other game. Edited January 23, 2012 by Srqt
mrshadowbg Posted January 23, 2012 Author Posted January 23, 2012 Bioware can't make people roll republic. I guess other people don't want to play "some jedi" either. If you want to roll on the more populace faction you have to take the good with the bad just like any other game. Again - FACTION IMBALANCE has NOTHING to do with POORLY MADE dailies. It can be 10 and not 30 and that will take reasonable amount of time while not making caluals that have stuff to do outside of the game and not much playtime cry!
Supercaptain Posted January 23, 2012 Posted January 23, 2012 (edited) Double post fail Edited January 23, 2012 by Supercaptain
Lexster Posted January 23, 2012 Posted January 23, 2012 Why you kiddies just have to come here saying stupid stuff? Maybe some people PAY for this game just the SAME as you do but have LESS time than you? And we want to be able to do the basic stuff like all else. DAILY means that - you come after work and you have time to do your dailies and some other general stuff. BROKEN DAILY is what BW created trying to "promote" the PvP in Ilum. Only thing that can actually do anything about the PvP on Ilum is if they STOP people from creating empire chars and that is not going to happen. So why not just scratch that daily? If you don't have to anything constructive to say about the Ilum daily but your ****** opinions like "roll republic" or "it's meant to be farmed for 10 hours" then go and create your own thread. Maybe daily means up to 24hrs to complete? At your current speed it will take a bit more than 6 hours to complete. Only a quarter of a day. =p
Brickabrack Posted January 23, 2012 Posted January 23, 2012 Why you kiddies just have to come here saying stupid stuff? Maybe some people PAY for this game just the SAME as you do but have LESS time than you? And we want to be able to do the basic stuff like all else. DAILY means that - you come after work and you have time to do your dailies and some other general stuff. BROKEN DAILY is what BW created trying to "promote" the PvP in Ilum. Only thing that can actually do anything about the PvP on Ilum is if they STOP people from creating empire chars and that is not going to happen. So why not just scratch that daily? If you don't have to anything constructive to say about the Ilum daily but your ****** opinions like "roll republic" or "it's meant to be farmed for 10 hours" then go and create your own thread. ***, DAILY doesn't mean easy or hard or fast or long or any of that bull. Daily only means you can only do it once a DAY. Nothing else. You're also acting like the Ilum daily are the only daily quests in the game. There are a zillion others out there available. Don't like it? Do a different daily with your valuable time until BioWare can adjust Ilum and make it more functional for both factions. The faction imbalance isn't something you just throw in a hotfix for you know. It's very complicated and no 2 faction game I've ever heard of has really actually fixed it.
Cameirus Posted January 23, 2012 Posted January 23, 2012 Why you kiddies just have to come here saying stupid stuff? Maybe some people PAY for this game just the SAME as you do but have LESS time than you? And we want to be able to do the basic stuff like all else. DAILY means that - you come after work and you have time to do your dailies and some other general stuff. BROKEN DAILY is what BW created trying to "promote" the PvP in Ilum. Only thing that can actually do anything about the PvP on Ilum is if they STOP people from creating empire chars and that is not going to happen. So why not just scratch that daily? If you don't have to anything constructive to say about the Ilum daily but your ****** opinions like "roll republic" or "it's meant to be farmed for 10 hours" then go and create your own thread. again,....roll republic. Not a lot BW can do about faction balance now. So either suck it up or quit. Its not a broken daily. Why should other people not be able to roll empire? you were allowed to. Your answer is basically "others should roll rep, but I (you) should be able to be empire". Unless you are volunteering to go republic, your idea of preventing empire characters being created is selfish and born of a sense of entitlement. But you are right its not going to happen. So what is left? oh yes provide an incentive for republic characters in the hope people choose to re-roll. how do you do that? make quests that rely on faction balance and are easier to do if you are not the zerg faction.....
Anelitt Posted January 23, 2012 Posted January 23, 2012 (edited) Wow the stupidity of some answers here is borderline hilarious. "Roll republic, its yout own fault blabla" Average Joe goes out to buy a video game, he takes the wrong 50:50% chance when choosing char selection and you tell him its his fault that he cannot enjoy the game because of that? Rofl No its 100% Biowares fail that they are unable to balance pvp around uneven numbers of players on each faction and at that even more fail they managed to make one faction so much more attrative to their playerbase. Its their responsiblity to make the game enjoyable for their playerbase, not the other way around. And by the way rigtclicking 30 boxes is not epic world pvp, neither is hardcore lagfest when factions finally manage to fight eachother. Edited January 23, 2012 by Anelitt
mrshadowbg Posted January 23, 2012 Author Posted January 23, 2012 Wow the stupidity of some answers here is borderline hilarious. "Roll republic, its yout own fault blabla" Average Joe goes out to buy a video game, he takes the wrong 50:50% chance when chossing char selection and you tell him its his fault that he cannot enjoy the gema because of that? Rofl No its 100% Biowares fail that they are unable to balance pvp around uneven numbers of players on each faction and at that even more fail they managed to make one faction so much more attrative to their playerbase. Exactly. Also what's so "hard" to make the quest possible for everybody? What's the problem with "kill 10 enemies" and not 30? When the faction imbalance is in place they have to cater for the bigger faction too if they don't want to loose subs.
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