Azygous Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Reversed 20 green implants (same type) and not a single blue schemic. I know that there is a chance and everything but did anyone experience this post patch with biochem or other crafting skills? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IncomT Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 If you have this problem with biochem, then I have no sympathy for you. If you have this problem with a different crafting skill - then you are just having bad luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostin Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 (edited) I dont think its a bug when you have a percentage of unlocking that schematic. Seems that out of those twenty tries you failed every single one. Its part of the game. Edited January 22, 2012 by ghostin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooby Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Was just about to make a post about the same thing. Reversed 5 greens, learned "Critical" version of Nano-Optic Response Implant. So far reversed about 45 more greens trying to get the Redoubt version and nothing. I'd put this down to RNG but I've never had this much trouble getting a blue reversal from a green. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevecn Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 I haven't been able to RE anything from green to blue either since the patch. I've RE'd numerous stuff before the patch and never had to go this long without getting a blue from a green. I think something is wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loOHakkaiOol Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 183 RE to learn [Expert Entropic Energy Chip [superior]] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swooshien Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 i REd 782 Overkill Entropic Energy Chip (i might have done a mistake at counting). i got Hawkeye and Commanders at the first 20 REs, but the other 762 i didnt get anything. is it a bug? or just bad luck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potens Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Gotta be a either a bug or just about the most horrible math fail ever. What if the chances of getting a schematic from REing are based off the number of schematics you've gotten from REing that item already. IE: Before the first schematic you have a 20% chance, after that it drops to 2%, after that it drops to 0.02%. I've run into this as well. I also get the ohh so lovely "You already know this schematic" message. That one is especially rage inducing. Thanks for proccing and all, but why the hell does it not just give me one of the schematic I already know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azygous Posted January 25, 2012 Author Share Posted January 25, 2012 If you have this problem with biochem, then I have no sympathy for you. If you have this problem with a different crafting skill - then you are just having bad luck. Thanks but um I never asked for your sympathy or your um 'constructive' post. Not everyone exploited the game to make creds. Gathering materials costs time and money. I appreciate you being the first troll on this thread, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azygous Posted January 25, 2012 Author Share Posted January 25, 2012 (edited) Gotta be a either a bug or just about the most horrible math fail ever. What if the chances of getting a schematic from REing are based off the number of schematics you've gotten from REing that item already. IE: Before the first schematic you have a 20% chance, after that it drops to 2%, after that it drops to 0.02%. I've run into this as well. I also get the ohh so lovely "You already know this schematic" message. That one is especially rage inducing. Thanks for proccing and all, but why the hell does it not just give me one of the schematic I already know? Good thought but I did not get a single blue off of it yet. It could be just chance but things like these should be brought to the attention of the devs and then dismissed or taken seriously either way. Edited January 25, 2012 by Azygous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swooshien Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Gotta be a either a bug or just about the most horrible math fail ever. What if the chances of getting a schematic from REing are based off the number of schematics you've gotten from REing that item already. IE: Before the first schematic you have a 20% chance, after that it drops to 2%, after that it drops to 0.02%. I've run into this as well. I also get the ohh so lovely "You already know this schematic" message. That one is especially rage inducing. Thanks for proccing and all, but why the hell does it not just give me one of the schematic I already know? never got the "you already know this schematic" message. and i also doubt the chance decreases, since i heard of people getting all 15 purples, and this would be impossible then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larkie Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Yet another post about how so-and-so patch broke RE. It's not broken. What it is, is random. But then, you already knew that. PS I learned 3 new schematics this evening out of about 30 items. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swooshien Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Yet another post about how so-and-so patch broke RE. It's not broken. What it is, is random. But then, you already knew that. PS I learned 3 new schematics this evening out of about 30 items. lucky you. i REd about 800 blue earpieces and got nothing. im thinking its a bug, but of course i cant be sure, maybe its just insanely bad luck. i would like to see a yellow post about the fact that im the least lucky guy in the world. or that i am deliberatly posting misinformation. but im not posting misinformation, afaik, i have crafted about 800 blue earpieces, give and take 50, if this number is not correct, dear bioware, feel free to post the actual number of overkill chips i REd. i already said i could have made a mistake at counting. but i guess we wont see a yellow post on this, since my numbers arent wrong(and if theyre off, they arent off much), and bioware hasnt really reacted on any complaints about the crafting system, because they know its ****** and they dont want people to notice too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrathburne Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Just to add my 2 credits on this topic... Just picked up a crafting skill tonight on a new light-side character. I reverse engineered the same first level item 17 or 18 times tonight (after the patch) before receiving my first blue recipe. I have the same craft skill on an alternate dark-side character who got a blue recipe on the 3rd RE attempt about 2 weeks ago. RNG to blame (bad luck)? Maybe. Something not working as intended after today's patch? Perhaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larkie Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Just to add my 2 credits on this topic... Just picked up a crafting skill tonight on a new light-side character. I reverse engineered the same first level item 17 or 18 times tonight (after the patch) before receiving my first blue recipe. I have the same craft skill on an alternate dark-side character who got a blue recipe on the 3rd RE attempt about 2 weeks ago. RNG to blame (bad luck)? Maybe. Something not working as intended after today's patch? Perhaps. I'm sorry, you do know that the R in RNG stands for RANDOM right? Questioning it being BROKEN after the patch from that example is preposterous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waagabond Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Try reversing blue items 30 times without recieving the Epic schematic. I have given up on several items, even on Blue. Some times you get a proc the first 3 reversed engineerd, and sometimes, even on greens, you wonder if its even possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyOnslaught Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 (edited) i got the same problem with synthweaving. I got the first epic after 20 RE's and then i made 350 more blues and got nothing.. so i am back to collecting mats. And now i am hoping to get more luck tomorrow. Edited January 25, 2012 by BloodyOnslaught Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 I've done 60 hilts today and so far nothing (Blue to Purple). Spent over 40k just gathering and crafting, this is getting a little annoying. I usually get it done on the 10th to 15 time, but today no go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Flin_ Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 (edited) RE'd a blue and two purples (one happened when RE'ing a droid part for mats, because I couldn't sell it. Boy, what a nice surprise) yesterday, so there is no general bug in RE. EDIT: And, btw, I keep records of my reengineering. So far it is 32, 47, 13 for my successful purple inventions. Earpieces. I advise you to keep track. Because you tend to overestimate the hard work if you don't keep records. Everything below 80 is definitely "normal". Edited January 25, 2012 by _Flin_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broom Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 lucky you. i REd about 800 blue earpieces and got nothing. im thinking its a bug, but of course i cant be sure, maybe its just insanely bad luck. i would like to see a yellow post about the fact that im the least lucky guy in the world. or that i am deliberatly posting misinformation. but im not posting misinformation, afaik, i have crafted about 800 blue earpieces, give and take 50, if this number is not correct, dear bioware, feel free to post the actual number of overkill chips i REd. i already said i could have made a mistake at counting. but i guess we wont see a yellow post on this, since my numbers arent wrong(and if theyre off, they arent off much), and bioware hasnt really reacted on any complaints about the crafting system, because they know its ****** and they dont want people to notice too much. It's driving me nuts. I'm not in it to sell stuff, I just want to make some nice implants for guildies who get to 50. And I'm failing every single RE. I'm getting Aion flashbacks at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinediks Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Yet another post about how so-and-so patch broke RE. It's not broken. What it is, is random. But then, you already knew that. PS I learned 3 new schematics this evening out of about 30 items. Yet another post? I havent seen another thread about this issue. I've seen threads about RE button not lighting up, or RE giving non-related schematics, but not one where the chance to proc hits almost 0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zzxe Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 I'd like to chime in on this as well. I'm the top cybertech on my server. Before 1.1, I had already RE'ed all the level 49 mods and armoring into epics. I already had reverse engineered all the level 49 green earpieces into ALL 30 different blue earpieces. Then, I had actually gotten 14 of the purple earpieces. After patch 1.1 dropped, I have reverse engineered a total of 424 blue earpieces. The first one took me 201 to get the purple recipe. The second one took me 223. I understand how things can be random and we could just collectively be having bad luck. The problem with people using the "you don't know what random means" excuse is...is that a bug COULD actually exist, and we would not have any way of knowing about it. Something just seems OFF with my numbers regarding reverse engineering post 1.1. I was surprised to come here and find this topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larkie Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Yet another post? I havent seen another thread about this issue. I've seen threads about RE button not lighting up, or RE giving non-related schematics, but not one where the chance to proc hits almost 0. No? http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=199994 http://www.swtor.com/fr/community/showthread.php?t=101386 http://www.swtor.com/fr/community/showthread.php?t=96852 http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=109951 http://www.swtor.com/de/community/showthread.php?t=117268 http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=94746 http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=227871 http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=83393 http://www.swtor.com/fr/community/showthread.php?t=211470 http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=117431 http://www.swtor.com/fr/community/showthread.php?t=173867 http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=226055 http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=98208 I'm sure there are plenty more but I think I put enough effort into that. I'm sure not every single one of these starts out as patch-related but they're ALL about how someone is having a bad luck streak and they think RE is broken because of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furiel Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 I'd like to chime in on this as well. I'm the top cybertech on my server. Before 1.1, I had already RE'ed all the level 49 mods and armoring into epics. I already had reverse engineered all the level 49 green earpieces into ALL 30 different blue earpieces. Then, I had actually gotten 14 of the purple earpieces. After patch 1.1 dropped, I have reverse engineered a total of 424 blue earpieces. The first one took me 201 to get the purple recipe. The second one took me 223. I understand how things can be random and we could just collectively be having bad luck. The problem with people using the "you don't know what random means" excuse is...is that a bug COULD actually exist, and we would not have any way of knowing about it. Something just seems OFF with my numbers regarding reverse engineering post 1.1. I was surprised to come here and find this topic. I would agree with this, I understand random, etc. but in reading this thread and in talking to my guildies, other crafters I know and my own experiences it seems that there was a change, be it by bug or unannounced change, that the likelihood of learning a new schematic via R/E has been reduced since 1.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevecn Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 I understand the bad look. I'm more thinking of averages, It just seems that after the patch the average rate is lower. But then, I could still be in a bad luck streak. I have RE'd a couple since patch so I know it still works now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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