wutru Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Bioware should just hire some developers that make WoW Addons. Oh wait, they wasted $500 million already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yfelsung Posted January 19, 2012 Author Share Posted January 19, 2012 I don't find either of those features useful to the gameplay and feel that they clutter up the visual space rather than enhance it. However, as a 1st party solution instead of a 3rd party one, I think it would be worthwhile for Bioware to implement similar optional features if there is enough demand for it. Of course I would want any additional elements to the UI to be optional. They really should just add many of these UI features from other games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turando Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Agreed. But asking BW to do all these UI customizations take time. In the long run, it would be much easier to create an extensible API so fans can create customizations for themselves. This reduces BW's long term workload, and if some mods are insanely popular, BW will take notice and incorporate them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blotter Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 (edited) I agree, however SWTOR fanboys will not like how you mentioned World of Warcraft Addons in the SWTOR forums. Perhaps. But I think that's an oversimplification. I like this game a lot so far, but I'd also like the ability to change up my UI. Do I believe that the current locked UI is a game breaking justification for tearing my hair out then reaching behind myself to dump in my fist before throwing it around the room? No. What do we see from the people posting about the UI and other "problems" that will almost 100% certainly be addressed as the game moves along? Flying hair and ***** everywhere. The OP posted a reasonable suggestion as opposed to a hyperbolic temper tantrum. it makes all the difference in the world. Edited January 19, 2012 by Blotter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sernon Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 The suggestion is at least moving towards a more sensible approach. Still sounds like copying something specific over from another game just because it feels familiar. But apart from obvious plagiarism and no sense of integrity whatsoever, it doesn't bother me overly much if this stuff can be ported directly over without any sense of discretion or title specific creativity, if it then allow the user to turn it on/off at will. It bothers me in some abstract creative sense of direction, since some other game live by leeching all resemblance of inspiration from other places almost exclusively, so to return the favor just feels dirty somehow. If anything new is being done, it will be ported over, if it can be ported over. That feels like old fashion thievery. And yet it's apparently the new standard in this bright new future of ours. --- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yfelsung Posted January 19, 2012 Author Share Posted January 19, 2012 The suggestion is at least moving towards a more sensible approach. Still sounds like copying something specific over from another game just because it feels familiar. But apart from obvious plagiarism and no sense of integrity whatsoever, it doesn't bother me overly much if this stuff can be ported directly over without any sense of discretion or title specific creativity, if it then allow the user to turn it on/off at will. It bothers me in some abstract creative sense of direction, since some other game live by leeching all resemblance of inspiration from other places almost exclusively, so to return the favor just feels dirty somehow. If anything new is being done, it will be ported over, if it can be ported over. That feels like old fashion thievery. And yet it's apparently the new standard in this bright new future of ours. --- It's not that it feels familiar, it's that it's a better way to display information. It allows you to focus on one part of the screen and see everything you could need. I kind of go by two rules in MMOs: You should be able to bind all your keys to keys that don't involve moving your hand. and You should have all information displayed in a way so that you don't have to move your eyes. All those little 0.1 seconds you save add up to a lot in a long PvP fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aryzyra Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Would be nice. Especially for the classes with more cds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggsjj Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 “When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep ... not screaming like the passengers in his car.” This was the funniest thing ive seen today...thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enrimm Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 I really hope with the UI update in March it makes it so - All UI elements are move-able - All UI elements are separately scale-able (from the video it seems they weren't) - Action bars able to be made vertical/horizontal - Action bars scale-able - Action bars move-able - Better buff/debuff tracker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi_Wannabe Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 I agree, however SWTOR fanboys will not like how you mentioned World of Warcraft Addons in the SWTOR forums. Expect backlash, however i completely agree with what you said. I'm a SWTOR FANBOY and I loved these mods in WoW. Would love to have them here. Along with AtlasLoot, FuBar, Bartender, and Outfitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yfelsung Posted January 19, 2012 Author Share Posted January 19, 2012 I really hope with the UI update in March it makes it so - All UI elements are move-able - All UI elements are separately scale-able (from the video it seems they weren't) - Action bars able to be made vertical/horizontal - Action bars scale-able - Action bars move-able - Better buff/debuff tracker From the video, I'd say we're at lest getting your first 5 requests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paganini Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Nope, makes way too much sense, go back to wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orientz Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 I agree, OP. I'm not a huge fan of addons usually, but being able to focus strictly on combat makes a huge difference when you don't have to constantly look at your HP bars. One thing I thought was cool in Rift was that you could move your characters HP bar into the middle of the screen, and although that was a rather clunky solution, it helped a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yfelsung Posted January 20, 2012 Author Share Posted January 20, 2012 I agree, OP. I'm not a huge fan of addons usually, but being able to focus strictly on combat makes a huge difference when you don't have to constantly look at your HP bars. One thing I thought was cool in Rift was that you could move your characters HP bar into the middle of the screen, and although that was a rather clunky solution, it helped a lot. I think the best solution, myself, would be to have the following: A) Move every bar independently B) Allow all bars, even health and resource, to be displayed either horizontal, vertical, curved horizontal, curved vertical etc C)Allow buff and debuff bars to be moved seperately and also displayed in the same way. D)The ability to seperate bars by your buffs/debuffs and others buffs/debuffs, so you can keep track of your own stuff easier. This would allow each player to invent their own custom ArcHud or other similar styles to fit their liking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethality Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 (edited) I know the OP is not asking for mods, but the request illustrates exactly why they are needed. Those requests are very specific and subject to a player's taste. ArcHud especially. Well, just don't use them, you say? Easy enough, but it makes zero sense for the developers to do anything unless it benefits all players and everyone has a chance to use it. Put this development in the hands of the players though. It's exactly what add-ons are good for. Edited January 20, 2012 by Lethality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xaecution Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 /signed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yfelsung Posted January 20, 2012 Author Share Posted January 20, 2012 I know the OP is not asking for mods, but the request illustrates exactly why they are needed. Those requests are very specific and subject to a player's taste. ArcHud especially. Well, just don't use them, you say? Easy enough, but it makes zero sense for the developers to do anything unless it benefits all players and everyone has a chance to use it. Put this development in the hands of the players though. It's exactly what add-ons are good for. I understand where you're coming from, I even agree with you, but this thread is not about mods and I don not want it turning into a mod argument, we have enough of those already. So let's stick to the compromise position of asking for features to be added to the stock UI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovan_Oh-One Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 I agree completely! With power auras it'd be so much better to keep my focus on the center screen rather than staring at my bars checking for procs, DoT tracking, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aenoria Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 (edited) as well as , gearscore, and everything else bad about third party mods. Thats the only bad addon in that list .. i mean threat meters are a must.. we dont even have target of target frames.. how is a tank ever supposed to know if he/she has aggro (you already zoom out the camera to 100% to get the big picture). No, addons are mandatory or atleast alot should be in the default package. And if RIFT is anything to go by, even with all the customizing in the world people still wanted addons. So a list of addons or things in game should be: - UI frame changer mods - Clique - Recount - Omen (Anything else is fine but these are simply mandatory for me to play a game properly now a days .. So YES im a addon junkie and YES gearscore sucks) Edited January 20, 2012 by Aenoria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinrain Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 I used Addons extensively in wow, in fact I rebuit my entire UI several times. But I hated ArcHud and its imitators, I just don't like having things in my way when I need to see things. It might be because i'm a tank and needing to be able to see whats going on is so important. And in SWTOR I think the visual look would be spoiled. Powerauras is a good addon and I used it in WoW. I can see how it would make things easier, but I don't really see the need. Dumbing down the challenge of gameplay isn't something I want. And if its in for some everyone will have to use it or be considered at a disadvantage. Your way or my way, neither is inherrantly right or wrong in this case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louka Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 100% agree with the OP. I would love to see some others added. One of the most important for me would be the addition of a numerical value on the skill on your bars showing the cooldown that is left. As it is the icons are oftened colored and you might think it's ready but it still has a few seconds left. Cooldown pulse was great too. It would quickly flash or "pulse" the icon of the skill when it came off of cooldown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abetterone Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 I say no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanhishikha Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Avid wow player of 5/6 years and these addons look disgusting, it clutters the screen so much. Nope, I would hate it if this was implemented. It'd be good as an ADDON only. Just give us the customisable UI asap and it'll be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethality Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 I understand where you're coming from, I even agree with you, but this thread is not about mods and I don not want it turning into a mod argument, we have enough of those already. So let's stick to the compromise position of asking for features to be added to the stock UI. Well, I'm all for it, I just don't see how they could ever possibly address every personal idiosyncratic request. So I chose to use the opportunity to illustrate again the importance of putting this capability in the hands of the player. However, if BioWare wants to hire a UI-Extra team to code specific requests, I'm all for that too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navarh Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 yesofcplz but copy SBF and IceHud (= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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