MasterRoland Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 BRB still getting killed by Operatives/Scoundrels before 1st stun wears off. Other classes should be renamed to Fodder. more accurately represent their design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurinax Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 They probably just realized that they're fine with the data that they have access to and you don't. With no gap closer and zero survivability I deserve burst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crujido Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 I remember my first death in PvP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowleyz Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 (edited) With no gap closer and zero survivability I deserve burst. As in, with no sprint, I am ENTITLED(!!!!) to kill people in 1 stun! With no selfhealing I deserve burst as well! At least being able to crit half of what you guys do... Edited January 19, 2012 by Crowleyz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jatne Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 (edited) Operatives and Scoundrels are fine. They issue with oneshotting was due to stacking consumables, which has been removed. It was not just these classes that achieved the fabled oneshot either. Edited January 19, 2012 by Parali rude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redneval Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 I have died many times to smugglers, becuase of the stun slam combo. Still wondering when they will fix my Stun/Shoulder slam for PVP on my BH. Works great in PVE but never works in PVP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthCnox Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 They probably just realized that they're fine with the data that they have access to and you don't. With no gap closer and zero survivability I deserve burst. Refer to this video: No survivability? AOE CC and vanish to 4K+ heal? What? (reference: 1:45 in this video) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lerdoc Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 As in, with no sprint, I am ENTITLED(!!!!) to kill people in 1 stun! With no selfhealing I deserve burst as well! At least being able to crit half of what you guys do... This is funny because they have both, well, no sprint, but if stealth is no gap closer, then I don't know that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babiegirlla Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 (edited) They probably just realized that they're fine with the data that they have access to and you don't. With no gap closer and zero survivability I deserve burst. You have a lot more survivability and "run away" not die than you act like you do, besides basing a class around an overpowered opening stun with burst is fail design in the first place, no game designer could ever sit there and say "yeah, dropping people from 100% to 10-20% is fair". Operatives and Scoundrels are fine. They issue with oneshotting was due to stacking consumables, which has been removed. It was not just these classes that achieved the fabled oneshot either. Full champ gear OPS/IAs still destroy people, don`t be so ignorant to defend your class so you can continue to be OP. Edited January 19, 2012 by Parali insulting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jatne Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 You have a lot more survivability and "run away" not die than you act like you do, besides basing a class around an overpowered opening stun with burst is fail design in the first place, no game designer could ever sit there and say "yeah, dropping people from 100% to 10-20% is fair", you idiot. Full champ gear OPS/IAs still destroy people, don`t be so ignorant to defend your class so you can continue to be OP. I play Sith Assassin as Deception. I am currently in the process of releveling as Jedi Shadow. So, nice try. I've survived the oneshots since they came out, but, unlike you tired, you poor, you huddled masses yearning to breathe free - I actually took the time to understand WHY the 10k hits with 5k dots occurred (for multiple classes) instead of insta QQing NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talkative Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Really? You guys are still confused about why the burst DPS class is doing burst DPS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yukirshiro Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 (edited) BRB still getting killed by Operatives/Scoundrels before 1st stun wears off. Other classes should be renamed to Fodder. more accurately represent their design. Uh burst DPS got nerfed by 25% across the board. That's a huge op/scoundrel nerf. You sound like you're just very bad at the game tbh. Right now an equal gear op isn't getting you below 50% in the opener and after that you're resolve maxed and can just pop a stim and be back at 80% and ready to *** pwn the operative. Edited January 19, 2012 by yukirshiro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wisers Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 I play Sith Assassin as Deception. I am currently in the process of releveling as Jedi Shadow. So, nice try. I've survived the oneshots since they came out, but, unlike you tired, you poor, you huddled masses yearning to breathe free - I actually took the time to understand WHY the 10k hits with 5k dots occurred (for multiple classes) instead of insta QQing NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERF. 5k dots? What game are you playing? And don't worry all those darth vaders 2 shot me if I don't get back into stealth, guess there really are counter classes. /gasp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuari Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 There's some internal testing involving class balance going on that was specifically mentioned in the same post they talked about the Biochem and Cybertech nerfs. Given that the nerfs involved fights ending too quick, you can probably be 100% that they are being looked at, but a class is harder to balance than consumables, so obviously they want to do it right rather than kneejerk. A smart move. Perhaps not one people are used to or one that'll be respected, but a smart one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthCnox Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Uh burst DPS got nerfed by 25% across the board. That's a huge op/scoundrel nerf. You sound like you're just very bad at the game tbh. Right now an equal gear op isn't getting you below 50% in the opener and after that you're resolve maxed and can just pop a stim and be back at 80% and ready to *** pwn the operative. How is this a 'scoundrel' nerf when it applies 'across the board'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alwaysthirsty Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Scoundrels/Ops aren't OP. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwC6e3lsmas&feature=player_embedded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SliggXx Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 With the level 50 brackets and the stacking nerf I don't see anyone getting absolutely dominated by Ops anymore. As a healing scoundrel, they simply can't kill me without two lucky crits and even then, it is still 50/50. I think the OP needs to L2P. I agree that it was bad at one point, but now with gear and the stacking buffs nerf, I can't see any class played by someone halfway competent losing to Ops as easily as before. Mauraders and Mercenaries scare me 10 times as much now. Sorry that you are having a hard time, little guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yukirshiro Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 How is this a 'scoundrel' nerf when it applies 'across the board'? Class most reliant on burst dps. Burst dps nerf. Keep going, you'll get there eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daross Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 BRB still getting killed by Sage/Sorcerer before can react. Other classes should be renamed to Fodder. more accurately represent their design. That happen to me, with 350 expertise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthCnox Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Class most reliant on burst dps. Burst dps nerf. Keep going, you'll get there eventually. Right, so you can't stack defensive trinkets adrenals. Huge tank nerf! Is this going in the direction you intended? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampylol Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 That happen to me, with 350 expertise. I love opening up on people with such a small amount of expertise, especially when they cry in general chat (huttball) and act like 350 is a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parali Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Greetings! We have had to do quite a bit of cleaning up in this thread due to some rather rude and insulting posts, so we wanted to take a moment to remind everyone that we ask our members to be polite and to treat each other respectfully. A good conversation can easily be derailed by a few uncivil posts. Please take a moment to review our Rules of Conduct. Thank you for your cooperation! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uppercase Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 I dont have terribly to much trouble with ops as a trooper. I pretty much always save my stunbreaker for when somebody knocks me to the ground and appears next to me. As soon as im free i rocketpunch my keyboard and trigger my aoe knockback and then take off. Im healer spec so i dont really do terribly to much damage but i tend to just kite the operative back to my group for them to kill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxxar Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Greetings! We have had to do quite a bit of cleaning up in this thread due to some rather rude and insulting posts, so we wanted to take a moment to remind everyone that we ask our members to be polite and to treat each other respectfully. A good conversation can easily be derailed by a few uncivil posts. Please take a moment to review our Rules of Conduct. Thank you for your cooperation! You must be someone's nanny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabbb Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Operatives are not fine. They are still doing too much damage out of stealth, they need a serious nerf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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