Ilum Valor - no rollback = unfair to non 50's

[ny_fan]

Surely the valor gain has to be rolled back... there are two reasons , one is otherwise the 50's that legitmately gained there valor will be put out, the other is the ones that did gain all that Valor in one day will mean that non 50's who couldnt participate in the one day valor fest are just so overwhelmingly behind as now all 50's will have Battlemaster gear.

 

Must be rolled back to ba fair to non 50's who couldnt use this explot, and people who legitmiately worked for it ... otherwise just leave it in or give everyone max valor automatically - otherwise you are being unfair to the biggest community, ie non 50's.

[Draethyl]

Not everyone participated. I chose not to because I enjoy earning my valor fair a square. Plus you can't use the armor till you can actually get it and thats random. Remember, its only slightly better then the champion gear. So big deal, though, I do think they should rollback valor earned from that area specifically.

[Saradain]

Not everyone participated. I chose not to because I enjoy earning my valor fair a square. Plus you can't use the armor till you can actually get it and thats random. Remember, its only slightly better then the champion gear. So big deal, though, I do think they should rollback valor earned from that area specifically.

 

 

Indeed, it shouldn't be hard to identify who grinded valor and do a selective roll back...

Edited January 19, 2012 by Saradain

[marcooxe]

It's also *********** unfair to Melee Classes and people who reached Rank 60 BEFORE the ..... patch...

[AndrosX]

I'll start by saying I just did my daily (30 kills) on Ilum, I got credits for about 8 clickables and the rest comes off PvP kills.

So I only got about 4k Valor max.

So I don't really care if they roll my Valor back to yesterday (and btw, no, I'm not ever lvl60, only 33)

 

That being said.

You shouldn't punish the players for a screwup by the Devs, unless it's something that has a major impact on the game or gives too much of an unfair advantage.

Now, if all that Valor would allow the players who did PvP yesterday to convert it into a full set of Battlemaster armor, or some insanely overpowered weapon or something like that then yes, I could understand a rollback.

 

But unless I'm very much mistakes, all you get out of Valor are titles (cool, but no practical advantage) and, at 60, the ability to equip Battlemaster gear.

Is that worth the trouble of performing a rollback (which can always cause unwanted side effects) and also of enraging some players who did simply play the game?

 

Truth is they should have realized the consequences before patch kicked in and, if that wasn't possible, they should have deactivated or locked down Ilum right away.

Not a half day later.

[Jinjernuts]

I was there for about 30 mins and only stayed to do my daily.

I gained 2 ranks only from 31-33.

 

Was kind of disappointed I was late turning in my weekly from the previous week, so I couldnt pick it up for this week.

 

I really dont see how people could sit there for hours, I was bored within 5 mins.

 

I moved on as soon as I could. When I say moved on... I went back to fleet and queued for 30 mins for a WZ. Bad times.

[Rabekah]

/agree

 

Just scan the database and correct the exploiters down to intended levels of gain for the time

 

have been levelling alts not playing my 50 so a rollback would leave me with a sour taste in the mouth

[Sky_walkerPL]

I wouldn't mind generic roll-back, removal of all exploits, punishment of exploiters (even not bans, but simple 10% Valor punishment, or something like that), and lowering the valor gain from PvP kills by 50% + lowering the valor bonus from owning all the points on map to some very low amounts (say: +5% per one owned point, maybe +10%, certainly not +200%) Edited January 19, 2012 by Sky_walkerPL

[Fidasaind]

This reminds me of the steroids issue in baseball. If possible, something should have been done before. For example, if they could prove Barry Bonds was cheating they needed to do something before he hit number 755 to tie. Afterwards it just becomes awkward. Same for Ilum today. They needed to react as soon as this started happening on the first server last night. Bring down the zone, port everyone to their fleet, give everyone 1 free day of playtime, and implement this new patch they have ASAP.

 

Roll back now? An entire day, on the day many people are deciding whether or not to resub? They probably cannot. It needed to be done before we got to this point. I think the best they can do now is apologize, say nothing this bad will ever happen again, drastically increase their QA department (nobody at a meeting brought this happening up as a possibility?) and maybe give players significant free time to bribe us to give them 1 more chance.

 

If Bioware made an announcement saying that they would commit to preventing issues like this again by increasing QA and dealing with people that did not see this coming and/or react in time AND asked for another chance including giving me some extra free time to prove how committed they were... then I would be far more likely to respond to that than having them just roll back the servers. I really expect little to no action from the devs and towards the players that made Battlemaster yesterday. That is why I went from having a 3 month sub to a 1 month (and will cancel after that 1 month if I am not satisfied). Luckily for them, D3 and GW2 are not out yet. That does give them A LITTLE time to get no the ball.

[Elthanas]

My girlfriend and I, we did play for 2 hours yesterday and could make 2+ Levels.

We just play for the Story and nothing else. I think there are a lot of ppl out there who doesn´t care if there are minor issues like ilum or PvP balance.

 

Now you want to punish us with a Rollback? I don´t think Bioware would want to enrage the majority of their Subs.

[Kyxoan]

lol@op "you must rollback to help the people who take 4 months to hit 50 in a game that takes less than 48 hours to hit 50 with casual play"

 

Stop taking so long to level, this game is not hard, face roll the keyboard and you kill people or npcs.

[Kagumi]

Its too late for a rollback NOW. They could/should've done it 2h later, but now many player already farmed alot of warzones again, and I'D be pretty pissed when my hard grinded warzones and the stuff I got yesterday from my bags would get deleted again.

[Zetara]

Nobody got from 0 to battlemaster yesterday. I went from level 32 to 40 in 5 hours of none stop pvp.

 

People who 'legitimately' got their valour got it by playing warzones and farming people 40 levels below them. Should Bioware remove all the valour you got by killing a none 50? Because that's not really legitimate, I'm sure you wouldn't mind that right? I mean, fair is fair no?

 

People like me played a lot of warzones yesterday why should we lose our valour we gained legitimately in our 50s bracket?

 

Lastly, it didn't even happen on all servers, only a few, why should the whole gameworld be affected because some servers had an issue? At least only look at the ones affected. Servers who had great decent fights shouldn't be affected because other servers don't have enough Republic.

 

It seems the rumours the Republic were trolling like 'omg 1k valour a minute' 'omg turrets are giving insane valour' that we kept quashing to be told ' obviously just Empire defending their exploit' well ha, we were right, you were wrong, you just latched onto something you didn't know about and now that's been dispelled you want drastic action that affects the entire games population because of something that happened on a few servers and not others.

 

Yes they should do something, but not jump to this stupidly drastic form of action.

[Elthanas]

lol@op "you must rollback to help the people who take 4 months to hit 50 in a game that takes less than 48 hours to hit 50 with casual play"

 

Stop taking so long to level, this game is not hard, face roll the keyboard and you kill people or npcs.

 

So much ******** in a single post.

 

I play the game the way I like it. I don´t want to rush the game but enjoy every quest. I think I haven´t skipped a single line yet and I enjoy the game very much. This in my opinion is casual play.

 

And getting lv 50 in 48 hours is impossible with casual play...

[Cyndelx]

Indeed, it shouldn't be hard to identify who grinded valor and do a selective roll back...

 

It actually isn't. This isn't the first game someone exploited to get pvp rank. You look in the logs. See who was using the Illum exploit and roll back the valor gain. But people in this this thread seem to have no concept of how mmos work. They think if a rollback happens everyone will get rolled back.

Edited January 19, 2012 by Cyndelx