Ventonix Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 (edited) Just wondering if I could get some insight on what people think. I am not the richest person in the world so I was thinking upgrading to an i5. So I have this currently: XP 32-bit E6600 Intel Core 2 Duo @2.4 GHz Nvidia GTS 250 1 GB 3 GB RAM (It's old and bad) I was thinking of getting this http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?oc=sdcm102&c=us&l=en&s=soho&cs=ussoho1&model_id=vostro-260 with the i5-2400 and then throwing my GTS 250 and 450W PSU in the new computer. Seems like it would work because I cannot do anything with my current motherboard, it only holds Duo Cores, and I just figured getting that new PC with the newer CPU, RAM, and Windows 7 for that price would be alright. So I guess my question is, is the i5 worth it? Will there be any noticeable difference running on the i5 and on Windows 7 compared to the E6600 and XP? The 5-10 FPS in warzones and in the imperial fleet with all low settings is just bleh. Any thoughts would be appreciated, Thanks Edited January 19, 2012 by Ventonix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warpass Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 (edited) If you only upgrade 1 or 2 things. Go with video card and more/better ram. If you can, throw in a quad core processor and your good. Lastly a SSD game drive is awesome for making loading screens into a nice 10-15sec load. If you can afford it. Go with a full new system. Since you have to change the motherboard too, you might as well. Also get a power supply that is over and above what you need. It will be much more stable and quieter. Edited January 19, 2012 by warpass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dafette Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 (edited) you sir get A *high Five* will edit if i can help ok, so i am running an I5 right now, and it's pretty flawless, dont have my specs on hand, at work right now so cant post them all. just know i have no complaints with the processor ok, also remembered i am running 8g ram, and dual 1G graphics cards, with the I5 processor, run the game on medium/max with no loss in FPS, unless its crazy crowded, but wz's dont lag at all for me Edited January 19, 2012 by Dafette Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ventonix Posted January 19, 2012 Author Share Posted January 19, 2012 you sir get and *high Five* will edit if i can help ok, so i am running an I5 right now, and it's pretty flawless, dont have my specs on hand, at work right now so cant post them all. just know i have no complaints with the processor Hmmm, do you know what kind of FPS you get in places like warzones and highly populated areas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyestor Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Don't get a Dell. What's your budget? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ventonix Posted January 19, 2012 Author Share Posted January 19, 2012 (edited) Well probably nothing more than that, 450. Edited January 19, 2012 by Ventonix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ventonix Posted January 19, 2012 Author Share Posted January 19, 2012 450 really can't buy a computer which is why I thought 450 for that Dell would be worth it because then I could put my OK graphics card and PSU in there with the better CPU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyestor Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 (edited) Well probably nothing more than that, 450. I assume you are an American so I will be using Newegg for this. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115073 - Intel i5 2500 @ $209.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157253 - ASRock P67 @ $119.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231428 - 8GB G.Skill Ripjaws DDR3 1600mhz @ $46.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102948 - AMD 6870 @ $164.99 Total of $542. I had to go over a little, $450 won't get you all that much considering you're making a massive leap in upgrading. I'd also suggest "acquiring" W7 x64. Stick your old PSU in your old case and you should be all good. Sell your old stuff if you want to get some money back. You can also drop the video card if you don't want to spend that much money. That'll knock the price down to under $400. Edited January 19, 2012 by Tyestor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toodumb Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 (edited) If all you're getting out of that is a motherboard, CPU and some RAM I'm 100% sure that an i5-2400 (less than $200, I bought an i5-2500 for 210 a couple of weeks ago) and a motherboard ($120ish) plus some RAM ($50 or so for 8ish gigs) will be less than whatever you're spending. 450W power should be acceptable for that setup. EDIT: what the guy above me said. Edited January 19, 2012 by Toodumb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediMasterShake Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 I'd also suggest "acquiring" W7 x64. I loled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lollie Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 If all you're getting out of that is a motherboard, CPU and some RAM I'm 100% sure that an i5-2400 (less than $200, I bought an i5-2500 for 210 a couple of weeks ago) and a motherboard ($120ish) plus some RAM ($50 or so for 8ish gigs) will be less than whatever you're spending. 450W power should be acceptable for that setup. This^ Though I'd suggest getting a better PSU just in case, this game seems to make your hardware draw lots of power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ventonix Posted January 19, 2012 Author Share Posted January 19, 2012 If all you're getting out of that is a motherboard, CPU and some RAM I'm 100% sure that an i5-2400 (less than $200, I bought an i5-2500 for 210 a couple of weeks ago) and a motherboard ($120ish) plus some RAM ($50 or so for 8ish gigs) will be less than whatever you're spending. 450W power should be acceptable for that setup. Yes that is true, but I am also really looking to get Windows 7, I really do not like XP anymore. Doesn't W7 cost like 115.00 now adays still? Might be better just to get that PC, still looking at options though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lollie Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 (edited) Yes that is true, but I am also really looking to get Windows 7, I really do not like XP anymore. Doesn't W7 cost like 115.00 now adays still? Might be better just to get that PC, still looking at options though. That Dell PC will have crappy budget hardware in it - buy a decent motherboard to start with, everything else follows from this. Edited January 19, 2012 by lollie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ventonix Posted January 19, 2012 Author Share Posted January 19, 2012 That Dell PC will have crappy budget hardware in it - buy a decent motherboard to start with, everything else follows from this. But then don't problems like, "will that motherboard fit in my current case" come up? I am not a tech wizard which is why I am kind of iffy on trying to put all this together myself, even though I have a general idea, that is probably not enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ventonix Posted January 19, 2012 Author Share Posted January 19, 2012 I assume you are an American so I will be using Newegg for this. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115073 - Intel i5 2500 @ $209.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157253 - ASRock P67 @ $119.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231428 - 8GB G.Skill Ripjaws DDR3 1600mhz @ $46.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102948 - AMD 6870 @ $164.99 Total of $542. I had to go over a little, $450 won't get you all that much considering you're making a massive leap in upgrading. I'd also suggest "acquiring" W7 x64. Stick your old PSU in your old case and you should be all good. Sell your old stuff if you want to get some money back. You can also drop the video card if you don't want to spend that much money. That'll knock the price down to under $400. Sounds reasonable but like I said, just worried about putting it together and getting it running because my current computer is a dell that I just added a new GPU and PSU to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ventonix Posted January 19, 2012 Author Share Posted January 19, 2012 (edited) I just realized actually, this is not where I wanted to go with this thread. My real question is, will there be a difference in FPS with an i5 and new RAM from a E6600 or is the game just poorly optimized? I can run almost any other single player game or small multiplayer game out there with 60 + fps on medium settings, but not so much for MMOs. Edited January 19, 2012 by Ventonix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluffyrainbow Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Do you want full graphics with shadows and bloom or are you looking for budget half arsed setup? The 6870 is not good enough, it can handle shadows on certain planets but mostly not. It can never handle bloom if you are running 1920x1080. The FPS indicator in this game when you hit ctrl+shift+F seems like it lies because even when it says i have 60+ fps it seems laggy. When it hits about 75 fps it seems like 60 fps on other games. So shoot for about 75 fps, or run FRAPS and get 60 fps on that. I suggest at least a 6970 from ati or a 570 from nvidia. You only need about 6 gigs of ram with windows 7 64 bit. Could get a way with 4 gigs if you optimize your desktop performance. I have windows 7 64 bit with 8 gigs and with the game open and 2-5 web pages open I still have about 3.5+ gigs of ram left. A common misconception is that the more memory your computer has the faster it will be. That is UNTRUE. Memory is like gas in a car, either you have enough or you don't. Having a full tank wont make it more powerful. Having 100 gigs of memory has the same performance that 4 gigs offers if the application demands less than 4 gigs. Solid state drives are the most amazing thing ever created....too bad the loading screens don't care if you have one. The long load times aren't from your HDD speed. They are bugged. I have benchmark software and several times during each load screen it will just completely stop loading for 5-10 seconds and continue again. Solid state will help a bit, but don't expect them to be fast. I have 2 500mbps read SSDs in raid 0 and it still takes me 10-20 seconds to load even though I can turn my computer on and be in windows in about 12 seconds. Until bioware fixes their stuff don't worry about buying one. The processor you want is an i5 2500K make sure it has the 'K' at the end of it or you can't overclock. Its 20 bucks more but 100% worth it. You have no need for an I7, in fact no game has the need for an I7 when you can clock an I5 2500k to 4.7 ghz. I7s are for software engineers / graphic designers. You should buy the MSI Z68A http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130621 because its cheap, has pci express 3.0, sata 6gbps, and usb 3.0. It has the option to run a crossfire setup for later if you need the extra power. For this setup you probably need a 750 watt power supply, any will do. Just make sure they have the proper connections for your motherboard / video card. (check for pci-e power connections. You probably want at least 1 6+2 connector and 1 6 pin connector. All those together costs about 840 bucks which is higher than your budget but you won't need to upgrade in 2 months when you realize you aren't happy that you half-arsed your setup. If you settle for the 500 dollars you will get in the game and realize you still can't use eye candy and have trouble with lag. Save up an extra couple hundred bucks, and do it right the first time or you may end up spending over 1k to replace parts you just bought. Get a night job at the local taco shop for 2 weeks then quit and you now have something you will be happy with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doamy Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 This thread needs to be locked or moved, like all the other threads out. It is off-topic of the general SWTOR game-play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arzhanin Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Hello there, We do have a thread for hardware advice here: http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=3367 Feel free to discuss and re-post information in that thread. Thanks for your understanding! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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