Hellapain Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 (edited) Why are we trolls, idiots or whiners for wanting a slightly balanced game? Troll=the one that started this post without any metrics or evidence to back it up. The valor gains claimed for turrets was a lie. The spawn camping for valor while true is exaggerated in terms of gains rate. Idiots=people that fall for trolls without finding out facts for themselves or from trusted friends. Whiners=Those that think the game will only be balanced when said balance suits their playstyle/character. True objective balance comes from cold hard metrics and not from subjective individual experiences or opinions. The servers probably have not come down because an investigation based on observation and metrics has not yet justified doing so. Edited January 18, 2012 by Hellapain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyj_ Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 No rollback and i quit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seriasx Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 I think the last few Imperial players to reply to this thread better decide whats more important to them. Walking over the remaining Republic players for the next week or possibly month or having your unearned valor removed. Its a simple choice, but think long and hard if you have to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darthneubauer Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Already cancelled when there was no Immediate action taken, and entire guilds were there exploiting that **** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabaal Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 I myself have farmed warzones today, but I wouldn't mind a rollback really, it's needed. Did my dailies and logged off my main. No point in playing it until there's official word on whether there'll be a roll back. The longer they leave it the less likely it'll be though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thotor Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Sub cancelled till action is taken from Bioware. If they are not able to react properly to huge amount of complaints from players, than canceling is more likely to make them go crazy and do something about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elear Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 How about you all whiners go to PTR instead and find those bugs before they go live? No, you're right, it's easier to complain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harabek Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 I canceled, so did a lot of my guild mates. We will be back if the do a Rollback and come up with a solution to avoid it in future (2 more Turrets doesn't count as solution). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tadeik Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 No roll back for me, On bloodworthy this is the first time the rebels have managed to muster any sort of mass pvp against the imps and im having a blast all be it at the gates outside the reb base but they beat us back and we beat them back its really the best bit of open world pvp since launch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nilxain Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 are they really rolling back valor? why? I spent all day here and dont want to loose that... what have we done to deserve this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atkammoh Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 I don't mind if the valor I gained today in Warzones would be effected, but they do need to roll back the valor due to this exploit or intelligent use of game mechanics or whatever you want to call it. I realize it will effect players that have legitimately gained valor and not abuse the game mechanics but take it as a collateral damage for the good of the game if you really care about SWTOR and want to see it thrive rather than die due to Imp/Repub battlemasters ruining Warzones who have done this. One thing I am so glad is that they released this patch before the first sub goes in which I wont be paying for if they continue to keep this patch as is. I could stay on for the PvE content but why pay full price for only half the game when it was advertised as being a comprehensive story driven MMO with the two factions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahhmyface Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 are they really rolling back valor? why? I spent all day here and dont want to loose that... what have we done to deserve this? Owned. What did you think was going to happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seriasx Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 How about you all whiners go to PTR instead and find those bugs before they go live? No, you're right, it's easier to complain. How can you be in a bad mood while walking over people and being rewarded for doing so? I feel bad for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seriasx Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 are they really rolling back valor? why? I spent all day here and dont want to loose that... what have we done to deserve this? Can't tell if you are being sarcastic.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dnomz Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Rolling stuff back is asking for unsubs. I'm Valor rank 15 or something like that since I'm not even 50 yet, but I disagree with a rollback. Even if im only rank 15, I would unsub if a rollback were to happen. It would mean many hours wasted, lost for nothing. How will we actually be compensated for that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Croaten Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Canceled, I will resub if there is a roll back. Battlemaster, pre 1.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojohand Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 I think the last few Imperial players to reply to this thread better decide whats more important to them. Walking over the remaining Republic players for the next week or possibly month or having your unearned valor removed. Its a simple choice, but think long and hard if you have to Why is the valor unearned? We had some great 48 x 48 (minimum) combat today on both sides. I damn sure earned my valor. No one picked a side for you, so live with your choice. Consider it a life lesson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broin Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 What they do in reaction to this will set the tone for the entire game from here on out.... Their next decision on what to do is crucial for the life of this game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojohand Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 No roll back for me, On bloodworthy this is the first time the rebels have managed to muster any sort of mass pvp against the imps and im having a blast all be it at the gates outside the reb base but they beat us back and we beat them back its really the best bit of open world pvp since launch. QFE! Exactly what this fine player is saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haeso Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Why is the valor unearned? We had some great 48 x 48 (minimum) combat today on both sides. I damn sure earned my valor. No one picked a side for you, so live with your choice. Consider it a life lesson. You realize if everyone rolled Empire there would be no PvP at all right? That they're continually punishing republic players indirectly is leading down that path. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptwonline Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Won't quit if Valor is not reset. Just won't PvP or do anything on Ilum. Which, of course, will shorten the game for me and make me quit faster. BW really needs to reset Valor. if they let people profit so much from such an obvious exploit then future situations will be exploited to the max. By wiping it out they can make it clear that it won't be tolerated. People will still exploit, but the more you wipe out their ill-gotten gains, the less people are going to be willing to try. You also have the problem whereby people feel their legit efforts to get PvP ranks mean nothing, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elear Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 How can you be in a bad mood while walking over people and being rewarded for doing so? I feel bad for you I'm republic, and haven't even been to Ilium today. Point is, all you people cry that bug made it to live servers. But obviously nobody bothered to go to ptr and see if there is anything wrong. As result, BW had to release untested patch, and do tesing on live. It's like voting. If you don't go and vote, you have no right to complain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeeFiFoFum Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 I had a pony! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nilxain Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 (edited) Owned. What did you think was going to happen? i havent gotten all that much valor though... so what have people done to get it rolled back, cuz I'm seeing pretty normal numbers.... Edited January 18, 2012 by Nilxain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KateBeck Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 already unsubbed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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