THEDUGGANATOR Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 (edited) Hello I am curious I am about to be lv 50 soon and am curious how is Jug dps in end game I am just wondering how it is or should I give up trying to dps as jug and just tank? I appreciate any feedback have a good day. Edited January 17, 2012 by THEDUGGANATOR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alchies Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 (edited) Heya, Currently we're the most gear dependent class ingame. With two dps trees, Rage and Vengeance as you may already know. Rage is currently our strongest and fastest build for PvP. We get some of the highest crits in-game with our smash ability up to 10k on low levels. (AOE!) But you can actually 3-5 shot some level 50 players. Hell, if you're geared and your opponent isn't you may two shot them. Just know, you are a glass cannon and often may feel squishier than a sorcerer. Not to attention whore my video around but here's my rage pvp video if you're interested in seeing rage in action; We have the strongest AOE in game right now, and most good juggernaut players are first on dps in warzones. Vengeance is more DoT dependent and has some basic and consistant damage but it's not really fast, nor can you really outspike GG healers. It's more used for PvE right now. But you may consider it's damage underpowered compared to the other classes out there as even in this spec you're still really squishy. Immortal is our wet noodle build. You can beat some players because of it's survivability. But your damage is rather meh, you will not defeat a equally geared healer. You have one skill which can crit up to 2.5k+ but that's about it. To answer your other question, if you plan to be a Dps in PvE I have bad news for you. And juggernaut simply isn't the right choice for you. I love my jug a lot, but I believe it'll be a bit harder to find groups as a juggernaut dps later on unless you have a really laid-back server or friends to group up with. Edited January 17, 2012 by Alchies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEDUGGANATOR Posted January 17, 2012 Author Share Posted January 17, 2012 (edited) Thanks for your reply thanks a lot once im geared looks fun they are looking in patch to make jugs more reliable thanks man Edited January 17, 2012 by THEDUGGANATOR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassp Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 (edited) Our raid brings 2 melee, me being tank and a marauder for bloodthirst. we can't spare a spot for a most likely mediocre dps compared to sorc or merc, that will spend half the only fight that matters running around (Soa). I say this because this is most likely going to be the case for most guilds. Edited January 17, 2012 by Cassp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEDUGGANATOR Posted January 17, 2012 Author Share Posted January 17, 2012 so ima how to reroll or become a tank **** my life all this time wasteddd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassp Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 so ima how to reroll or become a tank **** my life all this time wasteddd Wait for damage meters, that will either prove jugg's worth or prove we need a buff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mareign Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Pretty meh from what I've seen but that's guessing. A complete lack of any combat log makes it impossible to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cesmode Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Hey man, I was in the same situation as you about 2.5 weeks ago. Jugg DPS or Maurader DPS...I dont PVP much, so this would be purely pve. While there is controversey that the jugg can dps, and there was one guy in particular that posted something kind of convincing about his damage as a jugg vs the rest of his raid, I still took the safer route of Marauder. Now, while I think the Maurader is fun(Annihilation is interesting), I really really wish I rolled that Jugg instead. Their tanking is OK, and their DPS, all things being equal, is OK. Probably not as high as other pure dps classes, and without combat logs yet, we will not know. However, I still wish I rolled that jugg. I honestly would rather look at one lightsaber animations than dual. I think force push and force charge looks awsome. If they ever allow Advanced Class respecs, which i dont think they will, I'll be respeccing to Jugg. That being said, I still am having loads of fun with the marauder. Going annihilation is interesting with the bleed mechanics. You are all about bleeds, and when they crit, you get healed...so keeping Beserk up as much as possible, is critical if you just want to chain pull mobs and never go down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soonerjohn Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 The only comparison I really have is the solo fight event in eternity vault. I have my mob killed within 5 seconds of the other 3 people on the same mob as vengeance spec. Well, the operative is actually slower than the rest of us, but he can't get his positional requirements met on that fight. With that said, melee in general are at a disadvantage to ranged. I don't really see how this can change, at least for eternity vault. This is to the point a raid would simply be stupid to take a melee over a ranged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Itharius Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 (edited) so ima how to reroll or become a tank **** my life all this time wasteddd lol, you'll reroll because your class does 5% less dps than other classes? We're about to be buffed anyway, you shouldn't always want to roll FOTM classes. Edited January 17, 2012 by Lord_Itharius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roop Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 (edited) lol, you'll reroll because your class does 5% less dps than other classes? We're about to be buffed anyway, you shouldn't always want to roll FOTM classes. This ^ As BW has stated, they intend to make each spec balanced throughout every class. You can expect to see this within a 5-10% margin which, unless you're in a hardcore progression guild, isn't enough to reroll to a class you enjoy less. Edited January 17, 2012 by Roop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hizoka Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 lol, you'll reroll because your class does 5% less dps than other classes? We're about to be buffed anyway, you shouldn't always want to roll FOTM classes. baddies do this because they think the class is why they suck, not their poor ability to play the class. They have to roll what is OP to cover for their badness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hizoka Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 so ima how to reroll or become a tank **** my life all this time wasteddd BTW marauders only do more damage when played correctly, and seeing how they are 10 times harder to play correctly then any other class, if you are QQing about 5% damage then you are not the type of player who can play a marauder correctly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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