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I've taken the time to do a little research and show you all the history of bugs of WoW. Judging from my prior posts many of you who remember me will know where I sit.

 

Aside from that I will merely put forth this data and let you take it as you will while I high light key points.

 

WoW release date November 23, 2004.

 

Client Patch 1.1

http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_1.1.0

Nothing really here of not as far as bugs go but I feel its important that we take note that this is the date Onixia came to be.

 

Client Patch 1.1.1

http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_1.1.1

Client Patch 1.1.2

http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_1.1.2

Client Patch 1.2.0

http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_1.2.0

First content patch so much longer read. This came out on Dec 16th

 

Client Patch 1.2.1

http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_1.2.1

Does seem like much but interested bugs there solved a month after release. Date 21 December

 

Client Patch 1.2.2

http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_1.2.2

February 15th, this is a huge one filled with class bugs and a few loot ones too. 3 months after launch no less.

 

Client Patch 1.2.3

http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_1.2.3

Dueling big whoop and some text issues.

 

Client Patch 1.2.4

http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_1.2.4

I remember this bug personally because it was about this time I started to play. Massive lag when people all came together.

 

Client Patch 1.3.0

http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_1.3.0

Okay this is where **** gets real the amount of bug fixes from hunter pets immune to damage in pvp to raid fixes is off the chain. More importantly look at the date: 7th March 2005, that's 4 months after release and I don't think in fact I know many of these bugs were present at launch. not all but most.

 

Client Patch 1.3.1/1.3.2

http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_1.3.1 /2

Crash bug hot fixes.

 

Client Patch 1.4.0

http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_1.4.0

Honor system and warlord grind. Remember that? Also lots of raid and crafting fixes.

Funny thing is the same day they had to hot patch this patch because of this:

http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_1.4.1

 

Client Patch 1.5.0

http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_1.5.0

Release of battle grounds and still a slue of raid and profession bugs. Date is June 7th by the way.

 

I think I made my point. Guys I love WoW don't get me wrong I had lots of found memories of it but when I play this game I still remember quite vividly the bugs, hot patches, raid lock out errors. Long wait times. I'm possible lag in Battle groups...

 

Stop assuming that just because SW:TOR has a some errors everything is doomed. Stop looking at games like Warcraft with rose tinted glasses like its a master piece. It was good but it was far from perfect and I feel that many of you younger players who came by after everything was polished only had expac bugs at worse.

 

You would be surprised how hard raiding is when your Boss dives under lava and refuses to surface due to a wipe happening while hes out. We had to post GM tickets and wait hours on someone to come and re-spawn Rag for us.

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Stop comparing swtor to a 7 year old wow.

 

Compare SWTOR to the WoW now, and WoW blows it away.

 

That's not the same thing buddy. You own a flat screen? You know you had 7 dead pixals on it when you bought it right and now most likely have more.

 

Encase you didn't also know they can't make a screen without dead pixels because the cost to ship them like that would be unreachable.

 

This is the nature of the mmo market you ship the game unforeseen bugs or bugs you can't get to yet are there.

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That's not the same thing buddy. You own a flat screen? You know you had 7 dead pixals on it when you bought it right and now most likely have more.

 

Encase you didn't also know they can't make a screen without dead pixels because the cost to ship them like that would be unreachable.

 

This is the nature of the mmo market you ship the game unforeseen bugs or bugs you can't get to yet are there.

 

So what you're saying, is by nature.. every MMO will be inferior to WoW?

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So what you're saying, is by nature.. every MMO will be inferior to WoW?

 

No what I'm saying is ever mmo will have bugs that need to sorted. doesn't mean the game sucks just mean this new born has to grow a little.

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Stop comparing swtor to a 7 year old wow.

 

Compare SWTOR to the WoW now, and WoW blows it away.

 

 

So, you are saying to stop comparing a game with a MONTH on live servers for polishing, bugfixing and optomization to one that has had seven years of that? REALLY?

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So what you're saying, is by nature.. every MMO will be inferior to WoW?

 

You'd think the WoW-clone industry would get the message by now and actually try some innovation.

 

By the way, using an engine so ****** it makes Champions Online feel like Warcraft and then trying to make up the difference with voice acting is not innovation.

 

You can't make this **** up people.

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So, you are saying to stop comparing a game with a MONTH on live servers for polishing, bugfixing and optomization to one that has had seven years of that? REALLY?

 

Welcome to how business works. People won't buy SWTOR and say 'hey, I'll continue to play this game instead of WoW, even though it's more polished.. because this game just came out!'

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That's not the same thing buddy. You own a flat screen? You know you had 7 dead pixals on it when you bought it right and now most likely have more.

 

Encase you didn't also know they can't make a screen without dead pixels because the cost to ship them like that would be unreachable.

 

This is the nature of the mmo market you ship the game unforeseen bugs or bugs you can't get to yet are there.

 

Leaving out the entire high-end set of graphic options (texture quality, shadows, shaders, reflections, etc) most likely because your game engine isn't capable of running these options and then telling players that this is "working as intended" while continuing to advertise the game at a graphical level that the players cannot even attempt to replicate was totally an unforeseen bug.

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Who cares about Nov 2004?? It is 2012 now, that is all that matters. I don't compare a game to 2004, I compare with CURRENT games. Is this your logic? because wow in 2004 was buggy it gives SWTOR a pass? Till when exactly? 2020?
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Welcome to how business works. People won't buy SWTOR and say 'hey, I'll continue to play this game instead of WoW, even though it's more polished.. because this game just came out!'

 

Maybe not but other mmo's aside from WoW have been doing just fine and suffering the same issues of launch like every other one.

 

Course I expect you to argue then have to be as good as WoW which is not true. Just like not everyone goes to say Dairy queen all the time but they make due compared to say Mcdonalds.

 

Also your Boss comparison in your comment is a joke at best and a troll at worst.

 

A world boss which is meant to give people a practice run at raiding and your comparing it to an instances raid?

 

Just on that logic alone you can't expect me to take you serious.

 

Who cares about Nov 2004?? It is 2012 now, that is all that matters. I don't compare a game to 2004, I compare with CURRENT games. Is this your logic? because wow in 2004 was buggy it gives SWTOR a pass? Till when exactly? 2020?

 

No I'm pointing out that MMO's are huge staging projects born with bugs no matter what you do. I'm not saying SWTOR gets a free pass I'm saying you can't fairly knock it at face value.

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Who cares about Nov 2004?? It is 2012 now, that is all that matters. I don't compare a game to 2004, I compare with CURRENT games. Is this your logic? because wow in 2004 was buggy it gives SWTOR a pass? Till when exactly? 2020?

 

Dude, didn't you know, when you go car shopping, you don't compare the 2012 Ford Focus to the 2012 Honda Accord, you compare it to the 1976 Honda Accord because it's not fair to compare to compared it as they both stand when the Accord has almost 30 years to be better then the new focus's.

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It seems everyone forgot that wow was not the first MMO. Lots of games before had raiding, the leveling system, guilds and all that crap that everyone loves. It all comes down to personal taste, personally I hated wow since day one I thought it was the worst MMO I ever played.

Also, games have bug this happens this is BWs first MMO and it's already better and further along than other MMO's that have been at the the same point of development. If you like wow so much then go back to wow, if you like Star Wars than keep playing Star Wars simple as that.

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Stop comparing swtor to a 7 year old wow.

 

Compare SWTOR to the WoW now, and WoW blows it away.

 

Actually i feel the opposite on that WoW for me have become something more like an facebook app :)

So i rather have a new game that i really enjoy with some bugs :D

And i quite find it very polished compared to other competitors launches

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It seems everyone forgot that wow was not the first MMO. Lots of games before had raiding, the leveling system, guilds and all that crap that everyone loves. It all comes down to personal taste, personally I hated wow since day one I thought it was the worst MMO I ever played.

Also, games have bug this happens this is BWs first MMO and it's already better and further along than other MMO's that have been at the the same point of development. If you like wow so much then go back to wow, if you like Star Wars than keep playing Star Wars simple as that.

 

QFT.

 

People compare this game's launch to WoW's launch.

 

Then people say that you can't make such comparisons because SWTOR is competing with the WoW of now, not the WoW of the past.

 

Well, duh. But the thing is, that isn't even the point.

 

Back when WoW came out, there were plenty of well-established MMOs that WoW also had to compete with. It didn't seem to cause it any significant problems even though Everquest was way less buggy and had a ton more content than WoW did in November 2004.

 

And as the OP pointed out, WoW had a much rockier launch period than SWTOR did.

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Stop comparing swtor to a 7 year old wow.

 

Compare SWTOR to the WoW now, and WoW blows it away.

 

no it doesn't WoWs patch history now is even worse. They still add new bugs with every patch and they add even LESS content. Last time I checked they are averaging a new patch every 2 and 1/2 months to 3 months.

 

SWTOR is averaging a patch every week with a new content patch every 1 month to 2 months.

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Most of the bugs arent the problem.

 

Its the fact standard MMO stuff wasnt in at launch.

 

I mean , even the Cryptic brigade has a better character creator, not to mention a ton of graphic sliders SO THE USER can alter the graphics to fit in with their hardware.

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Most of the bugs arent the problem.

 

Its the fact standard MMO stuff wasnt in at launch.

 

I mean , even the Cryptic brigade has a better character creator, not to mention a ton of graphic sliders SO THE USER can alter the graphics to fit in with their hardware.

 

umm Cryptic is well known for always having the best character creator. In fact thats the only thing they are good at.

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Hi everyone,

 

We ask that threads made in General Discussion center on discussion of Star Wars™: The Old Republic™. We have closed this thread as the discussion primarily focuses on other games. Please ensure that topics in General Discussion relate to Star Wars: The Old Republic.

 

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