Exoddos Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 I have come to conclusion that shadow is beyond weak and broken. My 50 Sith Juggi which is tank spec out dps my shadow. I have stuck thru some of the annoyance of the class. Shadow cloak never working.Instant spells that aren't instant. Increase to shadow spec yet everyone can see you in pvp. I have even sucked up the bolstering BS in pvp. But when Im in full Glad gear and I'm still getting owned by 43+bolster I just can't stand it. Back stab cost 50% of our power yet does minimal damage. Even if it's speced into. I have watched BH 3-4 shot people within range.Yet I get 2 shoted and have to wait 10s just for power to build to hit 2 spells to barely do 2-3k dmg. How are we as a "stealth" class suppose to compete if our dmg is below moderate. I don't want to come off as whining but it's a bit annoying. Leveling isn't tough in this game at all and I enjoyed the Consular story line until the very end and I got the The Rift title and a blue mod(Which by the way is like slapping a baby in the face while breast feeding). I was looking forward to anything a new Mod-able chest or even a Double-bladed Light saber Yet a blue. So Im just wondering does anyone else feel they were cheated on this class and that it is completely broken? How could it make it out of beta. Am I suppose to just spec tank for pvp just so I don't get two shotted and do minimal damage. I have herd many have gone this route but why should we be forced because they didn't properly listen to people in beta that said "Hey our dps is crap". So is anyone else feeling this? Are there any other specs out there worth exploring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reii Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 You are playing the class wrong. Shadow Strike is only worth using when you have the proc for it (forgot the name, i'm sure you know which proc, there's only 1 which affects ShadowStrike). Your primary abilities are clairvoyant strike, project and force breach (and spinning strike when possible). Rethink your concept of how the class should be played, it seems you envision it as something that it isn't. All the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobNightfall Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 You are playing the class wrong. Shadow Strike is only worth using when you have the proc for it (forgot the name, i'm sure you know which proc, there's only 1 which affects ShadowStrike). Your primary abilities are clairvoyant strike, project and force breach (and spinning strike when possible). Rethink your concept of how the class should be played, it seems you envision it as something that it isn't. All the best. What he said. Shadow strike is only good when you double strike or clairvoyant strike until the proc goes off and ups your armor penetration. Then you can hit for the big numbers. Personally, I find the kinetic/balance hybrid much easier to play because I'm not so squishy and I don't have to chase people while minding procs so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthPegleg Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 First of all: You are NOT a wow rogue!!!!!! put that thought out of your head. I notice alot of ppl posting here think we are. That being said we do decent damage, stealth and good survuvability so i wouldnt class us as weak really. If you wanna kill someone in 2 sec flat, roll a operative. We fine, its operatives and healing in BGs thats out of wack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kckkryptonite Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 (edited) It's not as bad as you say, but I agree deep Infil specs are relatively weak unless you're geared out in which case you become decent whereas Sorcs/Ops become amazing. I'd suggest trying hybrids, ST is just not good enough. Edited January 17, 2012 by kckkryptonite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garbald Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Agreed, this seems more a case of wanting the class to be something it not really is. Yes it can be played as a rogue but there are more effective classes for that job, if played correctly on the other hand Shadows are pretty amazing in pvp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaerion Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 (edited) First of all: You are NOT a wow rogue!!!!!! put that thought out of your head. I notice alot of ppl posting here think we are. This cannot be stated enough. Also, we have SO MUCH CONTROL once we get in range. Several interrupts, some CC, great defensive/offensive cooldowns, and high mobility; we're pretty awesome. As for your stealth comments, remember that this isn't WoW stealth. You're meant to use it to close the gap quickly, you can't just lurk. No creepin'. Shadow is great if you read your tooltips and give it a shot. Edited January 17, 2012 by Jaerion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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