Phadian_gess Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 (edited) its not that they aren't fun but...come on...the devs could have atleast done it like in SWG (which in that case was about like the old game called wing commander) Or atleast like in battlefront II (freeflight space combat) yes i am QQ'ing to a degree because i think itd be a great change to the game Edited January 17, 2012 by Phadian_gess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WickedThump Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 I agree that it needs some improvement. It's a fun way to get a lot of XP, but it will get boring quickly. Since it appears space combat is a single player game, it shouldn't be too difficult to replace it in the future with something more substantial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamzombie Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 I would love to see it revamped as well, and they've suggested they're going to make some changes, so wait and see, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaspien Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Just more of them would be better, more choice and that "listening station" mission is just too long.. I mean 7 mins c'mon, You have covered all the missions objectives after the 3rd minute and then you hope to just leave it on fly/autopilot until it ends without hitting something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackweb Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 (edited) You would not believe the endless discussions... insanely many threads long, there has been since it was announced as a rail shooter during development. Alot of people really wanted this (x-wing style space combat), me included. But but but, they are announcing some change or addition to space combat which should arrive soon, so no need to go into a complete discussion on the topic before we know what it is. Since "some" kinda change is in fact coming. Edited January 17, 2012 by Blackweb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pursang Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Oh look, this thread again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zalanox Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 I wish all of your companions would make comments during the missions instead of just your first "normal" one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xaehl Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Expansion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanguine-sun Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 They're fun the first few times. They're not fun on your second or third toon going to 50 plus the other 50(s) doing them for daily creds. Its just an endless stream of same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phadian_gess Posted January 17, 2012 Author Share Posted January 17, 2012 see my main thing is i was an ace combat nut. (I have every ace combat ever released from the ps1 to the xbox 360) and when i had got a hold of battlefront 2 and found the control similarities...i know the computer AI was like WTH IS WITH THIS GUY??? IS WEDGE ANTILLES BEHIND THAT CONTROLLER? xD but yeah if it changes within an expansion (I pray to all the gods out there) I seriously hope there will be space pvp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manigma Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 As far as a minigame (and let's face it, that's what it is!) I would say it's pretty good quality, for me it is a nice warm up before I get into proper questing on the ground (and to get me into a sci-fi mood!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharagonIGN Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 As far as a minigame (and let's face it, that's what it is!) I would say it's pretty good quality, for me it is a nice warm up before I get into proper questing on the ground (and to get me into a sci-fi mood!). Agreed. Complaining about space missions is like complaining about the quality of the Plants vs. Zombies game in WoW. That said... did they really need to recycle so many levels? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackweb Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 The main problem IS that it is a minigame.... it's star wars, space is a must and some place along the line they are gonna have to expand it to an x-wing style game with multiplayer capabilities to properly reflect the universe they are depicting. (if not x-wing then some other style thats more extensive than the current) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccgcpa Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 (edited) its not that they aren't fun but...come on...the devs could have atleast done it like in SWG (which in that case was about like the old game called wing commander) Or atleast like in battlefront II (freeflight space combat) yes i am QQ'ing to a degree because i think itd be a great change to the game I agree. SWG space combat missions were fun. SWTOR space comat missions are NOT fun. An X-wing or Wing Commander-like combat addition to space combat would be awesome if done like the award winning Lucas Arts games of similar ilk. In their day, these X-wing games were financially successful. Chris Robertt's games like Star Citizen have always been excellent space exploration and combat platforms with wonderful stories. A space saga like FasterThan Light's Sun Dog will allow the player to be a bounty hunter, space trader, smuggler, pilot mercenary, military pilot, pirate, and any other profession that allows the player to survive, increase a multitude of inter-related faction stats, character-avatar atributes and skills, cash, items, ship upgrades, increase in rank, etc.. I love tese games. I do like the idea of adding turrets and multi-player similar to the "Pirates of the Carribean Online" game where players can jump into and out of any active space battle at any time. This would re-vitalize the SWTOR space battles. I do not see why SWTOR cannot do both the multplayer, turrets and x-wing combat in the space battles. Perhaps this add on could be a player paid for expansion? I want SWTOR to succeed. Edited October 18, 2012 by ccgcpa Add stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Ravenhurst Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 (edited) I think Chris Robert´s Star Cititzen will be finished before they announce what the SSSP even is... Edited October 18, 2012 by Lord_Ravenhurst Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mossesman Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Wow thread necro :S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordArtemis Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 I think two changes are in order that, at least in my opinion, would vastly improve the appeal of the feature. 1) Add in turret and multiplayer features to the current feature. The idea is to add turrets to every ship, then allow players to group with you and run the missions together. They could man turrets and fire at enemy ships. I would say two turrets per ship, one dorsal and one ventral would do the trick. Also, they should add the ability for other players to join you in the tube in their own ship. This way two or three players could fly along with you in the mission and help. 2) Add a persistent Battlefront 2 style space battleground This would add free flight, the ability to pilot your ship or fighters, allow you to land on enemy capital ships and fight on foot, and also allow for PVE objectives to be added to non-PVP areas of the map. In my opinion adding this kind of mechanic would be a boon for the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSLeMire Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 yeah... I have done a total of like 10 space missions EVER.... I had to force myself to give it an honest try after playing the first 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennOsmer Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Galaxies had it right when it came to space combat. Space combat in swtor appears to be an after thought. What an insult to the star wars universe. Very disappointing given the very good work on character development and storyline. It is clear to me this is an area where the developers dropped the ball. Was this done on purpose? Galaxies allowed one to craft your own space ship and do missions for reward like ground based story line.. Boy if they were really serious about pleasing the client base they should spend the time and effort developing space missions, space combat and space ship crafting. A greater ship selection should be a first priority. The defender is an ugly design. What ship has a stairway to fall into right down the middle, really. Did anyone ever think that one of the other designs might be more appealing? Oh, what does it matter, the selection is not that great anyway and it's just an scared space battle anyway. Very lame given the demonstrated potential in other areas old the game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socialist Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Space PVP o/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lu-Wan Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 I have to agree. Space Combat needs an overhaul. It's sad that a game of this caliber has the space combat engine used in Lego Star Wars. Not to put LSW down in anyway, I enjoy that game too, but a free roam open world roaming game could easily throw in the space mechanics of the old Lawrence Holland games. I also miss the random fighter attacks while transiting between planets in the original SWKOTOR. Would certainly make space combat more interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SithVeritas Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Expansion ....will not add anything OP considers an overhaul. Apparently there are things being worked on as far as space goes. (SSSP) But according to Mr. Hickman that's waaaaaaaaaay off. That may mean sometime this year, but it also means any other time. All we can do right now is wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordArtemis Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 I suggested that they should add multiplayer to the current feature, both turret play for folks in your group on your ship, and also the ability for other players to join you in the pipe in their own ship. I also think they should add a BF2 style persistent space battleground with PVE and PVP elements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macheath Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 ....will not add anything OP considers an overhaul. Apparently there are things being worked on as far as space goes. (SSSP) But according to Mr. Hickman that's waaaaaaaaaay off. That may mean sometime this year, but it also means any other time. All we can do right now is wait and see. A BioWare representative said that a certain feature was in the works? Well, I guess we should take them at their word, like we did for all those other broken promises. I'll believe the "Super Secret Space Project" exists when I see it actually make it into the game. Until that day, I will assume BioWare has little if any intention of moving forward with the project. They don't deserve the benefit of the doubt, given their track record. -Macheath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anosa Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 its not that they aren't fun but...come on...the devs could have atleast done it like in SWG (which in that case was about like the old game called wing commander) Or atleast like in battlefront II (freeflight space combat) yes i am QQ'ing to a degree because i think itd be a great change to the game i want both styles. the way missions are now is fun. Id definitely like to see some battlefield style space combat though mixed with swgs set up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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