thespareaccount Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Tomorrow's update won't fix Illum, still some mindless crap. In March we get 1 new Warzone, which you probably wont get much if you're Empire and will get boring fast. Add to this another update won't come up in March, and you're looking at months of nothingness. If you're a pvper, time to cancel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluffyrainbow Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 you haven't cancelled yet? Lol nerd. What the hell are you waiting for? This game is pay to play and is ridiculously easy to max gear....max gear and unsubscribe until they fix it. If they don't fix it then don't play it again. Its what I'm doing, I just checked in to see if anything has changed yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lina_Inverse Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 (edited) Tomorrow's update won't fix Illum, still some mindless crap. In March we get 1 new Warzone, which you probably wont get much if you're Empire and will get boring fast. Add to this another update won't come up in March, and you're looking at months of nothingness. If you're a pvper, time to cancel. It's unfortunate that games really don't have the time to release partially finished any more. Everyone expects ludicrous polish and a bug-free environment at release. No MMO has ever worked like that, though some were better than others. I think there's an issue in that established MMO's already have the market, and don't have to work through their bugged phases any more. New ones don't have that luxury. That said, march is a really long time to wait for updates to the pvp system. Not a whole lot complaining is going to do to change it, beacause these things take time. One thing though, I did hear the new warzone would be same faction to help alleviate constant huttball. Edited January 16, 2012 by Lina_Inverse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trellen Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 nope chuck testa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xHPx Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Tomorrow's update won't fix Illum, still some mindless crap. In March we get 1 new Warzone, which you probably wont get much if you're Empire and will get boring fast. Add to this another update won't come up in March, and you're looking at months of nothingness. If you're a pvper, time to cancel. They're making u have to kill each other in ilum, yes that's a fix. In march, they're adding 1 warzone and it's not faction restricted, read the interviews. They're also adding rated PvP combat (read;arena). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaskaszh Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Tomorrow's update won't fix Illum, still some mindless crap. In March we get 1 new Warzone, which you probably wont get much if you're Empire and will get boring fast. Add to this another update won't come up in March, and you're looking at months of nothingness. If you're a pvper, time to cancel. Please, do cancel. All of you. That way we won't have anymore of these I'm-throwing-a-fit-and-stamping-my-feet-and-I'm-REALL-REALLY-quitting-this-time-Bioware-I-mean-it threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loekii Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 It's unfortunate that games really don't have the time to release partially finished any more. Everyone expects ludicrous polish and a bug-free environment at release. No MMO has ever worked like that, though some were better than others. I think there's an issue in that established MMO's already have the market, and don't have to work through their bugged phases any more. New ones don't have that luxury. That said, march is a really long time to wait for updates to the pvp system. Not a whole lot complaining is going to do to change it, beacause these things take time. One thing though, I did hear the new warzone would be same faction to help alleviate constant huttball. Bugs and unforseen issues are understandable. Making design decisions, that did not work in the past, and expecting them to magically work this time, is just sloppy design work imo. We have seen 'keep trading' in other MMOs, so it should be no surprise to see it occuring in Illum. We have seen factional imbalance issues in other MMO's, so it should be no surprise to see an imbalance between Imps and Reps. We have seen how easy it is to upset BGs in other MMOs (via twinks), so it should not be a surprise to see the level 50 issue. So Imo, it is not expecting a perfect game at launch, but simply expecting a product that at the very least has made attempts to avoid previous problems seen in predecessors, instead of repeating the same mistakes. I am disappointed that BW simply did not care to do their homework, or simply did not care to put in the work pre-release (releasing with this design, knowing it would have these problems). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarthorn Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Thanks for the tip...or rather should I say thanks for posting another false information trolling thread to try to get players to resub to WoW. You are not a dev so you dont have that kind of info Im afraid. Can I borrow your crystal ball I wanna know who wins next years super bowl so I can vet on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanSolo Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 I did, today. 2 more days to play... weeee 60 bucks down the drain again...awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phixler Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Already did I'm just here to troll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinlynn Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 It's unfortunate that games really don't have the time to release partially finished any more. Everyone expects ludicrous polish and a bug-free environment at release. No MMO has ever worked like that, though some were better than others. I think there's an issue in that established MMO's already have the market, and don't have to work through their bugged phases any more. New ones don't have that luxury. That said, march is a really long time to wait for updates to the pvp system. Not a whole lot complaining is going to do to change it, beacause these things take time. One thing though, I did hear the new warzone would be same faction to help alleviate constant huttball. Lessons learned FTW. Obviously BW / EA didn't learn anything from the 10+ years of MMO history they had access to. This is why 70% of all software projects are utter failures and they try to re-invent the wheel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelticfury Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Tomorrow's update won't fix Illum, still some mindless crap. In March we get 1 new Warzone, which you probably wont get much if you're Empire and will get boring fast. Add to this another update won't come up in March, and you're looking at months of nothingness. If you're a pvper, time to cancel. I pvp quite a bit now that I have halfway learned my role, and I am not going to cancel. But if you expect the universe to bow down and kiss your behind and make all the fixes you want in a game barely 30 days old, maybe you are better off going to a game that has been around longer and has had the dev time to make the fixes that all mmos need when they start out. Good luck trying to troll people into cancelling because you have unrealistic expectations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlowRage Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 you haven't cancelled yet? Lol nerd. What the hell are you waiting for? This game is pay to play and is ridiculously easy to max gear....max gear and unsubscribe until they fix it. If they don't fix it then don't play it again. Its what I'm doing, I just checked in to see if anything has changed yet. *makes post* *goes back to playing huttball 10 hours a day* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qeuzolt Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 They're making u have to kill each other in ilum, yes that's a fix. In march, they're adding 1 warzone and it's not faction restricted, read the interviews. They're also adding rated PvP combat (read;arena). Where did you get arena from? Its going to be rated WZ's still objective based, with a ratings system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amdarius Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 It's unfortunate that games really don't have the time to release partially finished any more. Everyone expects ludicrous polish and a bug-free environment at release. No MMO has ever worked like that, though some were better than others. I think there's an issue in that established MMO's already have the market, and don't have to work through their bugged phases any more. New ones don't have that luxury. That said, march is a really long time to wait for updates to the pvp system. Not a whole lot complaining is going to do to change it, beacause these things take time. One thing though, I did hear the new warzone would be same faction to help alleviate constant huttball. I don't demand bug-free at release. Even single-player games don't release bug-free (see Skyrim). I do expect them to be stable at launch and not including any major gamebreaking bugs that should've been discovered during the lengthy beta. I do demand a suite of features that is comparable to most modern MMOs. SWTOR sadly failed in many aspects in this regard. Guild features - NONE. PVP - many issues. Crafting - sadly deficient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xephoniphulus Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 wow bio-ware should lock this thread. if you don't like TOR why did you play it in the first place? you see i find that people complain a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AetherMcLoud Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 I'm a PVPer. I enjoy it. Why should I cancel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nexusbob Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Tomorrow's update won't fix Illum, still some mindless crap. In March we get 1 new Warzone, which you probably wont get much if you're Empire and will get boring fast. Add to this another update won't come up in March, and you're looking at months of nothingness. If you're a pvper, time to cancel. wen ar u all get thes in u head - thes is ar pve/story focus game so get over it ,and if u cant handle it .then is u ther got a problem -- BIO told os all the way back ind 2008 thes is ar story/pve focus game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfessorWalsh Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Lessons learned FTW. Obviously BW / EA didn't learn anything from the 10+ years of MMO history they had access to. This is why 70% of all software projects are utter failures and they try to re-invent the wheel. Part of the problem here was that BioWare didn't try to reinvent the wheel. Instead, they gave us the same old song and dance. We were promised "Heroic Combat" which was specifically described as not being 16 guys ganging up on one boss... Guess what? The first boss of EV? 16 guys ganging up on one boss. The second boss of EV? 16 guys ganging up on one boss. The third boss of EV? Actually cool. The fourth boss of EV? Actually cool. The final boss of EV? 16 guys ganging up on one boss. Somewhere along the line the idea went from "lets make a game that isn't WoW" to "lets make WoW in space." The same goes for PVP it is simply too similar to WoW. It is all about capture the flag (Huttball) and not about a real war situation. It is imbalanced and focuses way too heavily on CC. The problem, again, is BioWare said they were reinventing the wheel but then didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaskaszh Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Odd, wasn't there a spate of "PvPers - time to cancel" threads about 4-5 weeks ago? So when, exactly, is it time to cancel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Averran Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Hello all, We appreciate feedback, both positive and negative. However, we do ask that that feedback is constructive. This post goes into more detail about what we're looking for in feedback and how to make sure your feedback is constructive and helpful. With all that in mind, we're going to go ahead and close the thread. If you have suggestions for the game, we have a fantastic thread for suggestion lists and a forum for specific suggestions, the Suggestion Box. We encourage you to continue your discussion of specific features in one of these locations. Thank you for understanding and helping us make sure that the forums are as constructive and helpful as possible! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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