Eavus Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 (edited) I honestly believe this would be a NON ISSUE if everyone knew how to play. Premade doesn't mean auto win, it just means that they don't do the stupid things that inexperienced (nice way of saying bad) players do. In any of the war zones there are little things that premades do that pugs either don't have the ability or just don't want to do. Civil War The biggest issue in this game are ninja caps. It is so common for an enemy to cap from behind someone "defending" because they are looking out instead of at their node. You should be behind the node with clear view of your node and any incoming enemy. As soon as you see enemy inc,you let the ops know that.."1, 2, 3 inc west, mid or east" If you are attacked by 3 people and are solo defending, youjob isnt to try and kill them. Thats what baddies do. Your job is to stop caps until defense arrives. Simple. Someone starts capping, you tab and attack and run around, pop cds , take pots, stay alive..run away and then run back in when you see the cap. STOP THE CAP that simple. Lastly, if your node is over run with 4 or 5+ enemies, its not rocket science to realize that there are only 8 people total on the team. if they have commited that many people to one side, dont have your whole team go there, ATTACK A DIFFERNT NODE!!!!!! 9 out of 10 times, it will simply result in a switch of nodes and the game is the same. However if your defense followed the earlier strat of stopping the caps..IT IS possible for you to take the other node and then send in back up for your attacked node and end with a 3 cap. I do it all the time. In conclussion, Keep an Eye on your node when on Def, Call out incs ahead of time, stop the caps until defense arrives and know when to attack something else. Strand of Ancients Clone (can't remember name right now) This warzone is the easiest of the 3. Like Civil war, the biggest problem is with people being ninja capped. They aren't paying attention and let someone cap from right behind them. Another big issue is lack of game awareness. I don't have to be in a premade to know that if there are only 5 enemies in front of me, there are 3 on the other door or stealthers. No matter who i am attacking i am constantly watching my door. as soon as i see a stealther pop and try and cap or anybody go to door and try to cap I SWITCH AND STOP IT. Now imagine if everyone on the team did that...... well if you did, the ohter team would complain that you were a premade because only premades do things like that. I queue a lot with 3 others but most times it just with 1 other person. Just 2 of us. We split up and each take a door. Why? Because we can't trust pugs to do the simplest of things IE look behind them and make sure someone isn't capping the door. We win because of this and that is just 2 people doing what they are suppose to. Huttball I love this warzone but often times it is lost by bad players. Here are a few concepts that the average huttball player doesn't know. PASSING: Passing wins games. There is no point in the entire team rushing to the ball in the begining of the game. You get the ball and get owned by the opposite team beacuse they forcus fire/aoe you to death, they get the ball and guess what? pass it to the guy who is in a good position and makes a easy score. DAMN premades and there smart moves!! Someone needs to stay top and get in position, if you see all your people going mid, then YOU go somewhere else. really simple. The ball guy will die if he gets the ball and has NOBODY to pass it to. ANd no, passing it to the guy right next to him at 20% health will just delay the ineveitable which brings me to the next point NUETRAL THE BALL: If you are surrounded by red with nobody to pass it to THROW THE BALL AWAY! It is better for the ball to be neutral then for the other team to get it. Please stop thinking "I can last a couple more hits and then i ill neutral it or pass it" What ends up happening is when you get low and the enemy KNOWS your getting ready to pass or nuetral, they will SURPRISE stun the **** out of you and kill you and get the ball. Be preemitive. The flip side to that is if you see that the ball guy is surrounded by enemy and will most liekly die GO TO THE MIDDLE!!!! when he neutrals the ball guess what? You are there to pick it back up. OH MAN stupid premade! only premades do thngs like that. NUETRAL CONTROL: It doesn't that the ENTIRE team to score. You can usually tell when a score is going to happen from either team, enemy or same. You need to have some players that are maintaining control of neutral. If the enemy team scores, you got the ball and are halfway to scoring by the time the enemy catches up. If you score, you have the ball right back and are going for another. This is how premades score those first 5 points in 5 minutes. because the other team is sending EVERYONE to try and get the ball back and they wait patiently and when they score they get the ball, pass and score again. If they are going to score HEAD MID and get the ball there. Neutral control wins games. We have one games where the enemy scored the first point in the first minute or two but we maintained neutral controal and won 6-1. In conclusion, there are more things i can discuss but if EVERY player on the team did these simple things you would win. I can't count how many times I've SOLO queued and because our team was actually good we got called out for being a premade. I laugh because its stupid. If you play right your a premade... So there we have it. If players would just know these simple things in any of the warzones, you wouldn't get rofl stomped. 90% of the communication that goes on in vent is BS talk and jokes and nothing to do with the actual game. We just know what to do. when things happen we react without being told. We EXPECT the other players on the team to know where to be. I expect the same from pugs. I expect them to watch nodes, I expect them to watch the door, i expect them to go ahead of me when i have the ball so i can pass it to them. I expect a teammate to be mid when i neutral the ball. None of that happens and the players blame premades for their own failures. just my 2c Edited January 16, 2012 by Eavus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eavus Posted January 16, 2012 Author Share Posted January 16, 2012 For justice!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rancorzealot Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 That wasn't 2c that was atleast a buck fitty. Good post nonethless, just because a premade joins, doesn't mean it's an autowin. People need to stop being bad and either group up and stop playing solo or get better! MMO stands from MASSIVE Multiplayer Online Not MINIMUM Multiplayer Online. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihateyouall Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 (edited) that's great. You can know everything there is to know about every warzone there is, and be a great player. But when you enter, say, a huttball vs a 22k hp powertech, 2 sorcerers and an assassin all decked out in full battlemaster gear.... well, chances are nothing you do will allow you to win. Edited January 16, 2012 by ihateyouall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eavus Posted January 17, 2012 Author Share Posted January 17, 2012 that's great. You can know everything there is to know about every warzone there is, and be a great player. But when you enter, say, a huttball vs a 22k hp powertech, 2 sorcerers and an assassin all decked out in full battlemaster gear.... well, chances are nothing you do will allow you to win. You might not win 1v1, but if your TEAM plays well and has good positioning, neutral contral and good passing you can still win the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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