einsoff Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 (edited) I don't know if WoW has just pacified people or what but I can run HMs anytime I want because I was smart. As an MMO veteran in games such as Final Fantasy XI which required a 6 person group to do 99% of the game's content, I know exactly how to find groups...so I am going to help you WoW players out who are pacified and do not understand how MMOs work. Step 1: As you play, and group up for heroics and FPs while leveling, be sure to add everyone to your friends list. Bioware has implemented a great post-quest add-friend feature to SWTOR. Be sure to use it. Step 2: Hit 50. Step 3: Whisper people on your friends list who are also 50 (your list should be gigantic at this point) to do a HM FP. The majority of the time they will say yes. If they need further convincing, stroke their ego and say you are asking them because you have played with them in the past and remember that they were a skilled player. Step 4: Run the instance Optional: A cheap ventrilo server to communicate for the more intricate HMs such as False Emperor. Benefits: By making friends on your server, and becoming well known to other players, soon you will be getting invites for things such as operations because other players have played with you and know you are skilled player as well. This opens up your chances further to see more content, while making more friends, the essence of an MMO. Side Benefit: By helping other players, you can always call in a favor later. It is not hard; you just have to play smart. Good luck. Edited January 16, 2012 by LexiCazam Inflammatory comment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dymensia Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 It does take a bit more work, but maintaining a friends list ultimately leads to more entertainment while doing group stuff as well. Knowing who you're running with will almost always make things go smoother, and most importantly you know you're not inviting jerks who are going to waste everyone's time being rude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threefiddie Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 easier said than done. not every server is the same way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryzerion Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 He's not lying, if you can't find groups and what not for FPs and HMs you shouldn't play [this] MMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
einsoff Posted January 16, 2012 Author Share Posted January 16, 2012 (edited) It does take a bit more work, but maintaining a friends list ultimately leads to more entertainment while doing group stuff as well. Knowing who you're running with will almost always make things go smoother, and most importantly you know you're not inviting jerks who are going to waste everyone's time being rude. Exactly. I don't know about everyone else but as someone who has cleared all the HM FPs at least twice, I wouldn't want to pug (via a built in auto-group feature) anything other than BT. The coordination required is too high. I think the system is fine the way it is...people need to just make friends and get a tight knit group to run these things with. Edited January 16, 2012 by einsoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cameirus Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 try it republic side, with 43 people in the fleet in prime time.....go on then come here and post your ********. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
einsoff Posted January 16, 2012 Author Share Posted January 16, 2012 try it republic side, with 43 people in the fleet in prime time.....go on then come here and post your ********. Haha! lower population means more opportunity to be united as a community, sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uthic Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 (edited) Hm, usually make 'friends' by grouping up to do some content out in the world. Don't see that many players out on my journeys though. Funny though, how EVE has trained me to be suspicious of anyone whispering me. Edited January 16, 2012 by Uthic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reevax Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 You don't want people to be able to play on their own schedules, ok got it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mackuss Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 I and many others do all those things and still don't get to run flashpoints. Talking in absolutes doesn't change reality. /thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeroXx Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 And I bet you are Empire right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drbeat Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 I agree with OP. If you can't find a group, you should unsubscribe immediately. Bioware also wants you to unsubscribe immediately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundhila Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 I'm sure BIOWARE doesnt like the fact some players tell other players to LEAVE their game. In case you havnt realized OP, this is a business, and businesses need to make money. The game is missing several features (and YES I MEAN LFD Tools) that if it doesnt implement soon, will cost them subs. PERIOD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Flin_ Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 On a related note: In all honesty, if you can't find the button for your trousers, you shouldn't eat that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cameirus Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 (edited) Haha! lower population means more opportunity to be united as a community, sir. no....I think you have a quite naive view point. and by saying naive I am being polite. unless that was sarcasm, in which case I agree. Edited January 16, 2012 by Cameirus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
einsoff Posted January 16, 2012 Author Share Posted January 16, 2012 (edited) I'm sure BIOWARE doesnt like the fact some players tell other players to LEAVE their game. In case you havnt realized OP, this is a business, and businesses need to make money. The game is missing several features (and YES I MEAN LFD Tools) that if it doesnt implement soon, will cost them subs. PERIOD. actually, it's not. Like I said, pugging any HM FP after BT with a LFD feature will be instant disaster because they require coordination. Secondly, maybe MMOs aren't for you. Not having a LFD tool means a tighter knit community, not a silent hate-fest that the LFD tool brought WoW. Bioware is on the right track at this point in time and I hope they don't fall into the trap of listening to the lazy, anti-social minority like blizzard did. Edited January 16, 2012 by einsoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plastikmanNL Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 OP is wrong imo - my friends list is for "friends" only, not for every random guy I come across - I have no desire to spend the few hours I have to play the game idling on the empire fleet trying to find a group. I can only imagine how bad it is for republik players. Im around lvl 44 now and have only done a handfull of flashpoints. How grouping is arranged in it's current state is just bad design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reckjam Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Don't flatter yourself, OP. It's easy to make contacts but getting people who can do their role properly is a whole new level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threefiddie Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 my server has no more than 7-15 50s in the fleet at primetime. goodluck with anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironix Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 (edited) I have no issues finding groups. Pugging is how I made new friends and discovered competent players that I will play with time and time again. In fact, pugging is how I found the guild I eventually joined on my server. Great group of people they are too. It really isn't that hard to get groups. CAVEAT: Yes I am Empire and yes I am on a high population server. For those of you on Republic side or on low population servers, I can understand how this may be a bit more difficult. And yes, I am level 50. Edited January 16, 2012 by ironix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plots Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Anyone who plays (or has played) World of Warcraft knows what the LFD tools did to the community. While the tools may have accelerated the rate in which groups were formed and fun was had it was overall detrimental to the game because it gave more player access to things that maybe they weren't ready for. Not to mention the LFD anonymity led to an increasing amount of ragers and haters and even more elitists who just drove their hate-filled hearts straight into unwary dungeon noobs. I sincerely hope that a LFD tool isn't implemented because I have had nothing but good experiences in searching/forming/completing groups. Also, you should be able to get a good sense of your server's community based on how hard it is to find a group for your very first flash point. If the server is dead and your main hub is empty no matter when you play then you honestly should've re-rolled if it was that important to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
einsoff Posted January 16, 2012 Author Share Posted January 16, 2012 Anyone who plays (or has played) World of Warcraft knows what the LFD tools did to the community. While the tools may have accelerated the rate in which groups were formed and fun was had it was overall detrimental to the game because it gave more player access to things that maybe they weren't ready for. Not to mention the LFD anonymity led to an increasing amount of ragers and haters and even more elitists who just drove their hate-filled hearts straight into unwary dungeon noobs. I sincerely hope that a LFD tool isn't implemented because I have had nothing but good experiences in searching/forming/completing groups. Also, you should be able to get a good sense of your server's community based on how hard it is to find a group for your very first flash point. If the server is dead and your main hub is empty no matter when you play then you honestly should've re-rolled if it was that important to you. well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owkbluewind Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 No social skills to play WoW? Are you dense? Try doing Ult,spine or madness of DW without telling people how the fights go in LFR. Try again,SW white knight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
einsoff Posted January 16, 2012 Author Share Posted January 16, 2012 No social skills to play WoW? Are you dense? Try doing Ult,spine or madness of DW without telling people how the fights go in LFR. Try again,SW white knight. Way to miss the point, entirely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironix Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Anyone who plays (or has played) World of Warcraft knows what the LFD tools did to the community. While the tools may have accelerated the rate in which groups were formed and fun was had it was overall detrimental to the game because it gave more player access to things that maybe they weren't ready for. Not to mention the LFD anonymity led to an increasing amount of ragers and haters and even more elitists who just drove their hate-filled hearts straight into unwary dungeon noobs. I sincerely hope that a LFD tool isn't implemented because I have had nothing but good experiences in searching/forming/completing groups. Also, you should be able to get a good sense of your server's community based on how hard it is to find a group for your very first flash point. If the server is dead and your main hub is empty no matter when you play then you honestly should've re-rolled if it was that important to you. My sentiments exactly (from a pro combat log/macros/addons person). =p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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