Dustranamus Posted January 14, 2012 Author Share Posted January 14, 2012 of the same tier there is minor differences. As stated earlier.. T2 PvP gear far easier to acquire than T1 PvE gear. T2 PvP gear gets you into hard mode raids. Why even have flashpoints? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shammus Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 of the same tier there is minor differences. As stated earlier.. T2 PvP gear far easier to acquire than T1 PvE gear. T2 PvP gear gets you into hard mode raids. Why even have flashpoints? its not easier to get unless you got lucky with your rng. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustranamus Posted January 14, 2012 Author Share Posted January 14, 2012 Not even asking for any nerfs to the PvP stats, just make a hit based requirement in PVE that makes going through PVE progression required. Not just acquiring Champion gear in a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustranamus Posted January 14, 2012 Author Share Posted January 14, 2012 It's easier regardless of luck. How many daily commendations can you acquire through flash points. Ok now where can I grind commendations for PvE once my dailies are over? There is RNG to both aspects yes. A certain boss could drop Columi but when RNG is taken away from the equation how do I grind PVE commendations to buy a lucky RNG bag with Columi gear? Can I just keep queuing and grinding? No because bosses only drop crystals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shammus Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 (edited) It's easier regardless of luck. How many daily commendations can you acquire through flash points. Ok now where can I grind commendations for PvE once my dailies are over? There is RNG to both aspects yes. A certain boss could drop Columi but when RNG is taken away from the equation how do I grind PVE commendations to buy a lucky RNG bag with Columi gear? Can I just keep queuing and grinding? No because bosses only drop crystals. I guess there is no convincing you then.. regardless of what I say you're going to disagree i'm almost rank 50 with maybe 3 pieces of pvp gear I've done 3 hard flashpoints and 1 hutt hospitality and 1 eternity vault Both which are very easy and puggable and already have more/better pve gear for pve then I do for pvp. then you're not including your dailies and weeklies.. recipe drops that you can use that will also improve your character in pve I've done both more pvp then pve and I'm telling you from experience what has worked better, but you can do/believe what you would like to if you're convinced theres nothing I can do to change your mind. both a dps and a heal set from pve btw.. and you can argue that raiding is different, but if you're not raiding then you're not putting the same effort into pve as you are pvp. Edited January 14, 2012 by Shammus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuseku Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 I guess there is no convincing you then.. regardless of what I say you're going to disagree you're doing the exact same thing to him the difference is he has hard evidence that you can check in game and you have nothing but opinion. removing RNG completely from bosses and WZ bags leaves you with centurion commendations and tionese crystals/commendations, that's fair - both are gonna be slow to gear up. now add in the RNG factor and the grindable gear becomes easier to obtain AND it is better than the HM gear (and t2 is only barely better from your SS) i'm almost rank 60 so i'll be looking forward to my T3 gear outshining the T2 gear. what then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiachsidhe Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 I do it, because it's fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xelosu Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 +1 Balance of PVP vs PVE gear availability should be reconsidered. Also Crafting items need a lil revision. Time and resources needed to craft gear is not compensated by gear quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedipwnsauce Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 pvp takes more skill. pve you can be a clicker and get away with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolthie Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 (edited) Indeed, PvE is completely ****ed up, why even bother? The loot, crafting, no challenges, no tactics, no nothing. GG PvE Edited January 14, 2012 by zolthie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FerrusPA Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 pvp takes more skill. pve you can be a clicker and get away with it. Not really, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veluthurk Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 why they thought making easily accessible PVP gear far superior than T1 or even T2 gear that takes twice the amount of time to acquire? This problem is starting to sound like that "other" game's gear issue. All that's left is for BW to change up some gear stats to further separate PvE and PvP. Then we will end up with complaint threads asking why the 'bads' are wearing PvP gear in PvE raiding...or how 'easy' it is to get the other guy's gear where your gear is so hard. rofl Deja vu. you're missing the point completely How so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drbeat Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Why is grinding warzones an acceptable stepping stone to hard mode raiding? That just seems wrong. I think they've based a lot of the MMO features and design around Burning Crusade. That's how it was done back then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oghier Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 You can gear up either way. Why not pick whichever one is more fun? If you spend an extra week or two doing something you enjoy, how is that a problem? If you don't enjoy either, you're finished with the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimpy Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 You realize you can run HMs and pug normal mode raids to get straight up tier gear right? its really about the same difficulty to gear up. Have you played this game? you cant even get a pug for HM, gl with an raid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampfot Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 No reason for you to argue about PvP being faster to gear up or PvE. Next month and the months after that you will all argue why you are all full-decked out and there is no better gear to get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VorpalK Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 I too, have a question. Why bother with PvP? Indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asavar Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 My question to Bioware is why they thought making easily accessible PVP gear far superior than T1 or even T2 gear that takes twice the amount of time to acquire? Seriously they need to remove aim/accuracy from PvP so they can also remove it from the gear. People who grind warzones all day easily out gear me trying to acquire my Tionese commendations slowwwwwlly through the daily system. I just don't get why they messed this up so badly why even bother doing any hard modes other than the biometric crystal alloy drops off the last boss? Will this be looked into? Cool story bro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wa-kin Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 (edited) Tip, stop playing for GEAR only, try and fun. I am havin a serious blast in huttball just grappling people into fire pits and watch them burn lol. I am also having a serious blast doin EV, I'm in full orange with lvl 44+mods and 1 champion gun. Sure I try and gt better gear if possible but I'm not playing a game for gear, I'm playing for fun. In huttballs case, I actually help the team ALOT by having fun grappling people into fire pits and whatnot. I do this to ball carriers constantly which gives me the ball instantly, or in voidstar I jump of the bidges and grappling people down with me. it's so /lol that it makes me do it all the time when I have the chance, it's instant death for them and for me aswell ofc, but when I do this to healers, they just lost a valuable asset. I find it fun doing operations with 7/15 others, it's coordinated and people have to cooperate, it's a blast getting to chat in vent with other people who's likeminded and not only play for gear so their epeen grows. Edited January 14, 2012 by Wa-kin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--Grim-- Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 (edited) Gear itemization is incredibly screwed up in this game. So much so, that they have made pve gear by questing or crafting a complete waste of time. They'll get it fixed after nobody cares and have moved on to other games. Until then most folks will be grinding out their PvP gear so they can keep up in PvE. Edited January 14, 2012 by --Grim-- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master-Nala Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Playing for shinies is always going to be disappointing. Play what you enjoy, the shiny things will come in time. It's not a race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustranamus Posted January 15, 2012 Author Share Posted January 15, 2012 pvp takes more skill. pve you can be a clicker and get away with it. So you don't gear if you don't win? False. The fact is you can lose your way to gear in the same amount of time as a loser in PvP. How about them stealth afker's in Champion gear? Fact is it takes you 5 minutes to do your dailies in Ilum and 10 minutes for the weekly. How long does it take you to complete a hard mode flashpoint? Depends on the group I suppose, but even with the best you won't be getting it done if you lack skill. Enrage timers will catch a bad dps. A healer and tank won't get away with sucking, period. Warzones or PvP dailies will be completed and grant rewards regardless of player skill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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