You overlooked several vital components...

[Huatar]

I formed my first guild in this game, today. It's set to be a roleplaying guild on Vrook Lamar.

 

While I was working on some things for the guild, I found something completely baffling: I can't edit the names of the default ranks. I couldn't help but think to myself, "Why?"

 

Then there's the issue of the lack of chat bubbles - one of the most vital things the chat system needed in this game. It's impossible to interact with players, face-to-face, when your chat window becomes bogged down by dialog from other players as well as the General chat, if it's on.

 

There's a lot of things I like about this game, but it just seems like BioWare rushed to get TOR released. I sincerely hope you're all working on adding these things into the next few patches.

[Zodnom]

Had to get it out by Christmas... No matter what.

[Sulmithagreyse]

in over a decade, i've met nobody who used bubbles. they're more crap on your screen, whisper like a normal person.

 

i don't see the point in editing guild ranks. people always make it something stupid anyway like "fartblossom" and "hedonist"

 

if you're actually playing the game and you actually like mmos, i just don't see how in the hell you can even NOTICE this crap.

[josor]

I formed my first guild in this game, today. It's set to be a roleplaying guild on Vrook Lamar.

 

While I was working on some things for the guild, I found something completely baffling: I can't edit the names of the default ranks. I couldn't help but think to myself, "Why?"

 

Then there's the issue of the lack of chat bubbles - one of the most vital things the chat system needed in this game. It's impossible to interact with players, face-to-face, when your chat window becomes bogged down by dialog from other players as well as the General chat, if it's on.

 

There's a lot of things I like about this game, but it just seems like BioWare rushed to get TOR released. I sincerely hope you're all working on adding these things into the next few patches.

 

 

 

Create new ranks, then delete the old ones.

[timowade]

I formed my first guild in this game, today. It's set to be a roleplaying guild on Vrook Lamar.

 

While I was working on some things for the guild, I found something completely baffling: I can't edit the names of the default ranks. I couldn't help but think to myself, "Why?"

 

Then there's the issue of the lack of chat bubbles - one of the most vital things the chat system needed in this game. It's impossible to interact with players, face-to-face, when your chat window becomes bogged down by dialog from other players as well as the General chat, if it's on.

 

There's a lot of things I like about this game, but it just seems like BioWare rushed to get TOR released. I sincerely hope you're all working on adding these things into the next few patches.

 

you could make a new chat window with only /say in it bud, or /yell whichever is yur preference or both even..

[Sech]

in over a decade, i've met nobody who used bubbles. they're more crap on your screen, whisper like a normal person.

 

i don't see the point in editing guild ranks. people always make it something stupid anyway like "fartblossom" and "hedonist"

 

if you're actually playing the game and you actually like mmos, i just don't see how in the hell you can even NOTICE this crap.

 

Because he RP's, that's why he cares about this crap.

[flyersfan]

While I was working on some things for the guild, I found something completely baffling: I can't edit the names of the default ranks. I couldn't help but think to myself, "Why?"

 

Delete the ranks and just make new ones. You'll need to reorganise them to make sure that they're in the correct order of your hierarchy, but that's about it. It's clunky and imperfect, but the guild system is lacking more serious things.

 

 

Then there's the issue of the lack of chat bubbles - one of the most vital things the chat system needed in this game. It's impossible to interact with players, face-to-face, when your chat window becomes bogged down by dialog from other players as well as the General chat, if it's on.

 

This one just sucks. I'd really like to see chat bubbles, especially on RP servers. The best alternative I have for that is creating a tab that filters out the general chat and just about anything that isn't /say or emotes.

 

On a side note, I find the RP servers to be overwhelmingly lacklustre. There is little to no RP out in the world. It's filled with players who just want to take advantage of the RP environment. As a prospective RPer, it has been a huge put off and I've already left three servers because of it. I'd like to see some kind of restrictions put on the RP servers to keep that from happening. One or two heavily monitored RP servers for North America (one east and one west or just one) and one for each of the three languages in Europe would suffice, imo. I don't ever expect that to happen, but a man can dream, I suppose.

[Godsfear]

Had to get it out by Christmas... No matter what.

 

Bingo!

[Novare]

I formed my first guild in this game, today. It's set to be a roleplaying guild on Vrook Lamar.

 

While I was working on some things for the guild, I found something completely baffling: I can't edit the names of the default ranks. I couldn't help but think to myself, "Why?"

 

Then there's the issue of the lack of chat bubbles - one of the most vital things the chat system needed in this game. It's impossible to interact with players, face-to-face, when your chat window becomes bogged down by dialog from other players as well as the General chat, if it's on.

 

There's a lot of things I like about this game, but it just seems like BioWare rushed to get TOR released. I sincerely hope you're all working on adding these things into the next few patches.

 

Game doesnt need chat bubbles, normal chat is fine. I never miss a say because I turn off general chat, I mean why would you want to read the equiv of ruptured sewer pipe?

 

I am sure your "problems" will be taken care of eventually, but to call a game rushed or released to soon based on those 2 points...um yeah thats just nitpicking imo.

[imtrick]

I'll admit I don't get chat bubbles and would never consider them "vital," but they're obviously important to you. Still, as others have mentioned, you can change the rank names pretty easily.

 

I'm sort of with the guy above me. Considering how few games actually even have chat bubbles, I don't quite get the logical leap from "no chat bubbles" to "rushed game." I think if you were trying to make that case there are far better examples you could have used.

Edited January 14, 2012 by imtrick

[flyersfan]

in over a decade, i've met nobody who used bubbles. they're more crap on your screen, whisper like a normal person.

 

i don't see the point in editing guild ranks. people always make it something stupid anyway like "fartblossom" and "hedonist"

 

if you're actually playing the game and you actually like mmos, i just don't see how in the hell you can even NOTICE this crap.

 

My guild ranks are Guildmaster (which I wish I could change), Supreme Chancellor, Ops Officers, Warzone Officer, Grand Master, Admiral, Class leader, Member, and Recruit. Fortunately, I didn't have enough space for ranks to fit in "fartblossom."

 

There are plenty of people who take that kind of stuff seriously and it's something that's nice to have for guilds and guild management.

 

The bubble thing I can't attest to since the only other MMO I've played had chat "bubbles" (it was Runescape, so just floating lines of text) for everyone. I found it much more effective and would certainly use chat bubbles in an RP setting.

[Loxion]

Nice to haves for people that like them but hardly vital.

 

As for the chat, just setup a chat tab which only displays /say, then you will only ever see those chat lines and it is limited to close proximity to you anyway.

[Sulmithagreyse]

Because he RP's, that's why he cares about this crap.

 

and what exactly does chat bubbles have to do with ROLE PLAYING?

 

the point of role playing is to be your character. be IN character. that has nothing to do with chat bubbles, you have total control over what chat channels are getting through. it's an unreasonable crybaby complaint that isn't an indication of being rushed.

 

not like wow =/= rushed

 

any RPer coming from wow should have no standards at all. there is no RPing in that game.

[Huatar]

in over a decade, i've met nobody who used bubbles. they're more crap on your screen, whisper like a normal person.

 

You've obviously never met a roleplayer, then. Public roleplaying is great interaction with a community. It's difficult having to weave through chat text while also looking for the person who's talking to you - even more so if you choose to have name overlays turned off.

 

i don't see the point in editing guild ranks. people always make it something stupid anyway like "fartblossom" and "hedonist"

 

Again, you've probably never interacted with roleplayers, before. I, personally, am very particular about things like this. I don't want to be known as "Guild Master" to my guild, I want to be known as "Commander," or something like that.

 

Like to my RP guild on WoW, I'm the "Chieftain." Not the "Guild Master."

 

if you're actually playing the game and you actually like mmos, i just don't see how in the hell you can even NOTICE this crap.

 

I don't play MMOs for the sake of just playing them, I play them to immerse myself in them. That's what being a roleplayer is about, to me.

 

any RPer coming from wow should have no standards at all. there is no RPing in that game.

 

I take serious offense to this.

Edited January 14, 2012 by Huatar

[Sulmithagreyse]

My guild ranks are Guildmaster (which I wish I could change), Supreme Chancellor, Ops Officers, Warzone Officer, Grand Master, Admiral, Class leader, Member, and Recruit. Fortunately, I didn't have enough space for ranks to fit in "fartblossom."

 

There are plenty of people who take that kind of stuff seriously and it's something that's nice to have for guilds and guild management.

 

The bubble thing I can't attest to since the only other MMO I've played had chat "bubbles" (it was Runescape, so just floating lines of text) for everyone. I found it much more effective and would certainly use chat bubbles in an RP setting.

 

i can say i take it seriously than i can't use 50 letter names. doesn't make it viable though. doesn't prove the game was rushed.

 

this is a wow fanboy comparison masked as "valid complaints"

 

wow RP is dead and has been dead. wow has incorporated 247 addons since 2004 to add features it did not have at launch. there was FAR more RPing going on in 2004 than in 2012. using it as a standard for your rp is ridiculous.

 

you're not playing wow because wow has been garbage for 3 years. you're not having fun. you want something else. wanting to find a game with the exact same features isn't even logical

 

this is just another reaction of an addict. wow employs 5 psychologists to keep wow as addicting as possible. everything from the music to the achievement system is meant to hook you. when you want to play something else and it's even a tiny bit different, your mentally wanting to go back to what is wow not because it's fun, but because you're addicted.

Edited January 14, 2012 by Sulmithagreyse

[Sulmithagreyse]

You've obviously never met a roleplayer, then. Public roleplaying is great interaction with a community. It's difficult having to weave through chat text while also looking for the person who's talking to you - even more so if you choose to have name overlays turned off.

 

 

 

Again, you've probably never interacted with roleplayers, before. I, personally, am very particular about things like this. I don't want to be known as "Guild Master" to my guild, I want to be known as "Commander," or something like that.

 

Like to my RP guild on WoW, I'm the "Chieftain." Not the "Guild Master."

 

 

 

I don't play MMOs for the sake of just playing them, I play them to immerse myself in them. That's what being a roleplayer is about, to me.

 

i've seen what you RPers really do at the goldshire inn on moonguard.

 

you talk a big game then it always ends up like that

[Huatar]

i've seen what you RPers really do at the goldshire inn on moonguard.

 

you talk a big game then it always ends up like that

 

Thank you for your overblown generalization.

 

I run the largest, and oldest, Tauren Roleplaying guild on Wyrmrest Accord - which hosts weekly, monthly, and bi-annual events that encourage player interaction and story-telling.

 

So once again, I would like to thank you for generalizing all WoW roleplayers to the trolls that encompass Moon Guard's Goldshire.

[imtrick]

Thank you for your overblown generalization.

 

I'm not much of an RP'er, but I'm with you on this point. It's so obviously the viewpoint of someone who knows absolutely nothing about roleplaying and the roleplaying community that it's really not even worth the effort to try to counter it.

[hurja]

Game doesnt need chat bubbles, normal chat is fine. I never miss a say because I turn off general chat, I mean why would you want to read the equiv of ruptured sewer pipe?

 

I am sure your "problems" will be taken care of eventually, but to call a game rushed or released to soon based on those 2 points...um yeah thats just nitpicking imo.

 

I, I, I, I, I, I, and I, I, I and because I, I, I, I, I then noone needs it either because I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I and I do fine.

[FourTwent]

plz no chat bubbles

[Kuvi]

You can make semi-customized chat tabs.

 

Play-ability is a lot more important than having movable bubbles or changing

the set guild titles. I'm also guessing that other features would be placed into

the game before those, too.

 

I agree that the game was a bit rushed - but if those are your only reasons

for thinking that then I'd hate to be the one trying to please you.

[Huatar]

I will have to rephrase my initial post.

 

It's inconvenient to not be able to change the names of my default ranks - and I can't move myself around in order to delete old ranks and fill in the new ones. Just like it's inconvenient to not have chat bubbles to easily distinguish who's speaking in /say and /yell.

 

I apologize for saying that these were "vital" components to an MMO. They're only inconveniences.

[wtfnonamefree]

in over a decade, i've met nobody who used bubbles. they're more crap on your screen, whisper like a normal person.

 

 

The bubble thing is used by roleplayers.

 

I used them for raiding and arena macros.

 

What you deem more crap on the screen, might be more information on the screen for others.

 

Many people do - you do know, that it is YOU, who has to enable them to see them, right...?

 

Maybe that misconception about the bubble mechanic led to your decade of unbubbliness.

Edited January 14, 2012 by wtfnonamefree

[Sulmithagreyse]

The bubble thing is used by roleplayers.

 

I used them for raiding and arena macros.

 

Many people do - you do know, that it is YOU, who has to enable them to see them, right...?

 

Maybe that misconception about the bubble mechanic led to your decade of unbubbliness.

 

i meant that i've never met anyone who says they use bubbles in the 10+ years i've been on MMOs

 

we all figured keeping the chat in the chat log just made sense. announcing something in chat like DBM always has works perfectly.

 

imagine if the speed of your car bounced up in random places in thin air. god that'd be just as stupid as chat bubbles.

 

either way, calling it vital is laughable.

[Mackuss]

Had to get it out by Christmas... No matter what.

 

pretty much this.

 

"hey, let's release a completely unfinished game".