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I'm Having a Hard Time with Cover in PvP


Draeb

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Don't get me wrong, I love my GS and love using cover, except for when it comes to WZ's. There seems to be a serious delay whenever I want to access it. The field is moving so much and being able to adjust to the battle is critical so I can't be static for too long and when I finally do, it's great but I can't ever relay on cover when I'm in a pinch. It's ballbreaker and try to set up but I still get worked.

 

Is there something I'm just not understanding when it comes to pvp? It's sad but I've been worked by lvl 11 force users in pvp.

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This is our biggest downfall in Pvp.

 

The ability delay Fps probs and cover bugs are amplified in warzones. Throw in getting ccd and knockbacks from the other team and it can become very frustrating.

 

I changed my Wz playstyle and now I dominate. Let others go into the fight first (I used to charge in) Once they have the enemies focus pop your cover and dps from a distance. A lot of time I will open with an aimed shot as the animation doesn't attract attention as much as speed shot and charged burst. If your enemy is down to half hp I can usually kill them with a quick combo (pop cover Smug luck prime, speed shot, instant CB, aimed shot, trick shot and finish with a quick draw = dead imp) And they will be wondering what the heck happened.

 

Use the highground and when you see a saber class looking at you pop hunker down so they can't leap to you or cc you if they are inq.)

 

Bind your cover in place to middle mouse. This seems to have reduced the cover lag for me. Rarely do I actually pop into natural cover as it seems to take 5 seconds with ability delay.

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Even if there is an fps delay it won't effect the ability to use cover abilities. I honestly don't notice a delay from when I use cover to when I can use any cover only abilities. The only down fall in pvp I find for a GS is that in a place like huttball LoS is a mother eff and since that map is very mobile compared to the others, having to stay in cover to use any of your abilites that actually matter (as SS spec) really bites the dust.
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For pvp I really recommend DF. I have tried SS and it just doesn't work out to well in my experience. There are 9 billion sorcs running around all over the place spamming that OP channeled slow lighting, which just completely breaks the cover system, and if they get in range to get that crap on you, your pretty much dead so cover just doesn't work.

 

I kind of take the approach of popping out with my absorb shield up, using 2 dots + hemo, breaking LoS and when they swap targets popping out and nuking them with wounding shots, and then a legshot since once you get them to 50% they use that OP runspeed to flee so they can use their OP self heals to heal back up, if the other 5 sorcs in their team are not already spam healing them.

 

If you got a premade you can take position on a good LoS spot like a pillar at the middle BO in Alderan, near a crate in voidstar or under a platform in Huttball, have your tank pull one in out of LoS of the sorc blob and you can dps it down and then go for another. It doesn't work as well in huttball though since having 2/3rds of the team with runspeed is pretty much an I win button.

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I don't think it's just me, but I have a very noticeable decrease to Fps and an increase in ability delay when in warzones. I would normally say that in a thread like this, but it is very relavent to the op as I find that is the main hindering factor for me in pvp.

 

In pve open world I have very little ability delay.

 

 

EDIT: please refer to this very well put together thread and you will understand http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=167526

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Taugrim discovered that the bug affects cover when used from your hotkey bar. If you map it directly to a key not on your bar, the delay is removed.

 

http://taugrim.com/2011/12/12/smugglers-and-imperial-agents-keybind-your-cover-thank-me-later/

 

Nice find going to try this out. I typically user 1-5 as my main ability keys, if swapping it off the quick bar gets rid of this game breaking .5-1 second ability delay its going to be huge.

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Taugrim discovered that the bug affects cover when used from your hotkey bar. If you map it directly to a key not on your bar, the delay is removed.

 

http://taugrim.com/2011/12/12/smugglers-and-imperial-agents-keybind-your-cover-thank-me-later/

 

Not sure I agree with that as a solution - I map crouch in place to my middle mouse button and suffer from the lag, often firing off the ability on my top hotbar where burst should should be. It needs to be looked at, possibly making burst shot put you automatically into cover? Anwyays...

 

As far as using in PvP, I think most people who struggle with it spend way too much time in cover. You have to be mobile, and you totally can be while still getting the benefits of cover (the instant burst shot to open trick shot up, the ranged defense buff when exiting). Move, drop and hit burst shot, then get on your bike again until another instant cast burst shot is available. While on the run I will try to pick off the lower health targets, we are very good at that! Plus the accuracy debuff grenade is being thrown in to the mix whenever it is up.

 

My biggest problem in PvP has nothing to do with cover, but to do with the focus we seem to get as a smuggler. There is very little you can do to survive the melee train when it hits, but that is what you get as a high DPS class. We can still hit surrender just for the comedy value! Accept it, and move on knowing you will kill more than you die.

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I'm only a new player, and I haven't worked on macros yet, however playing a druid in WoW, I found Macros helped heaps with changing ability bars.

 

Could you make a macro to solve this problem

 

"It needs to be looked at, possibly making burst shot put you automatically into cover?"

 

Something along the lines of if "cover" is present, cast [burst shot]; if "cover" is not present, cast [cover]

 

It's been years since I wrote a Macro for an MMO, but you get the logic surely? My gut feeling is that it would work. Once I get into the game more, I'll probably try and figure out the wording....

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