Issam Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 I'm currently lvl 37 and i've used kailyo since i first got her. She is now proving to be a pretty weak tank with damn good gear. I actually have more health than her. My problem though, isn't that she is dying (because by time she dies i can dps down some strong mobs before i die) but im getting tired of healing in between every 2 fights or every fight. I'm Just wondering do you guys use a medic compainion? Im pretty sure no one uses Vektor. The doc Lokin seems like a good healer and i read we get Scorpio? A decent tanking pet a little later. So who have you been most efficient with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecoffeecup Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 I am only 34 so I am still missing the last few. But I can kill faster with Vector than with Kaliyo with less downtime (because the fights are over so fast). The funny thing is, Kaliyo has much better gear. Doesn't make her a good tank and she is so squishy that I have heal often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boreus Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 I always use Kaliyo in outdoor areas. She takes all the damage, then I mount up and she goes back to full health. Absolutely 0 downtime. If I use Vector, I inevitably take some damage and then have to recuperate. In indoor areas it's more of a tossup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maivi Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 I know what you mean. 2nd play thru so far and I have noticed around the low to mid 30's companions start to suck against mobs. 40's it becomes worse. It's just a difficulty increase in the mobs. I keep using the tanks cuz as long as they suck up the dmg to the point of me being able to do what I need to do esp as concealment needing the to face away for backstab I don't really bother with the others. I didn't like vector when I had to use him for the alda quests so I havent touched him since. I end up taking to much dmg and have to stop to heal just as often or have to draw fights out by standing there and healing. Doc may work but if your concealment you wont get any backstabs off cuz your gonna have agro. Kailyo has a hard enough time holding it I would never see a dps/heal companion holding it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghizz Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Always ask fellow operatives on your server for helps/tips/tricks. Most leveled with Kaliyo, and I'm at 38 atm and I agree that shes becoming pretty weak. The mount up/heal trick is a good trick to use. Also, I tend to CC no matter what type of pull it is as it just means that 1 less mob is beating on you/her. Kaliyo is not that geared for me, but shes still viable. Sure shes squishy but it should be fine. I also got a tip that 40-50, Kaliyo will be reallyyy squishy, so was told to farm 1,000 warzone commendations to get her the level 40 bounty hunter pvp gear. She has become so much tankier since then (: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youmu Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Kaliyo until I got Vector. Then it was Vector all the way. I usually tanked the mobs myself (Healing spec), and Vector just cut them down. Worked just fine for me, and the fights were much faster than they were with Kaliyo. Haven't really given anyone else a chance, since they had comparatively weaker gear to Vector whenever I got them, and I couldn't be arsed to re-equip them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Issam Posted January 11, 2012 Author Share Posted January 11, 2012 All good tips and advice, thanks. I'm gonna stick with Kaliyo since me and her share a disposition and i almost have her affection maxed. In the mean time i will grind out the warzone commendations to get her better geared and also use the outdoor mount trick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attaraxia Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 honestly, if you have more hp than kaliyo at any level, she doesn't have 'damn good gear'. the entire time i spent leveling, my kaliyo had more hp than tanks of the same level. probably not a big surprise that i didn't have any trouble keeping her alive no matter how long any fight went on. i also solo'd random platinums and heroic quests regularly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfenhausen Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 I play as Concealment and I use Doctor Lokin. For any mob that doesn't have CC immunity, I can easily take care of them by using Debilitate and Flashbang. Doctor Lokin heals fairly well if you give him your hand-me-downs and manage to get yourself a moddable Blaster Pistol with Cunning mods. For those that do have CC immunity, then it gets harder. Other than a Medic specced Op with any companion, it's pretty difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Issam Posted January 12, 2012 Author Share Posted January 12, 2012 honestly, if you have more hp than kaliyo at any level, she doesn't have 'damn good gear'. the entire time i spent leveling, my kaliyo had more hp than tanks of the same level. probably not a big surprise that i didn't have any trouble keeping her alive no matter how long any fight went on. i also solo'd random platinums and heroic quests regularly. Well damn good gear was definitely a stretch, but one would still expect with the gear from quest you compile for her (sets with her name on it) that she would still have more hp than me being that im a dps character by nature and she is a tank character by nature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E_c_c_e Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Concealment here and ever since I got Doc I use him and him only...At the beginning (b4 I got Doc) I used Kaliyo and used the mount trick or the dismiss - resummon trick..worked like a charm but since I always aspire to have the best gear I can Doc gets some really good gear as well since mine gets changed every 1-3 levels and I have to say that with some gear he's a beastly healer. I usually have 0 downtimes and the only mobs that really are troublesome are hard hitting ranges or un cc'able melees with crazy attack speed... Apart from those two groups I have no trouble whatsoever to kill anything that comes my way...I even solo'ed a champion mob on my level in Quesh (ok his dmg was rather weak and he always casted a heal but still)... I love questing with Doc and I strongly suggest anyone to try it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JemRei Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 I used Kaliyo until i obtained Temple, after that I used her and still do as concealment op, put her in all crit surge gear and turned off her aoe abilities to not break cc. everything pretty much dies before they can get any damage in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uslurper Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 I run a hybrid 13conc/the rest healing. I am level 41, and I cannot keep good enough gear on Kaliyo, and she becomes super squishy. I can heal and do good damage, what do y'all think I should run? Vector? So I can heal tank, and do some deeps, while he cuts em down? Or just change spec? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovitemptis Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 while leveling i used kaliyo as tank up until i got scorpio, then used her as a tank until 50, once you get to ilum and have decent 50 gear theres no point for a tank companion so switched to ensign with all fully moddable gear with the slots filled with the ilum daily quest rewards for random world stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velr Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 (edited) Concealment here... I use Vector (and recommend DPS, but Temple has worse gear atm)...I rather kill stuff fast and then regen a few secs instead of taking my time and having no downtime (Doc.. the "other" mode is buggy with stealth so i would never use him as conc) or taking my time and still having downtime (Tank) . The people having troubles with a companions while leveling are normally not picking the wrong one, they are just not gearing them good enough or are not playing "right" in general. Edited January 12, 2012 by Velr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamay Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Kaliyo when I need something to take the beating. Once I geared her up it became much easier to heal her. And I bust out Vector when there aren't elites kicking around and I just want things dead. Plus when I group up with guildies I pretty much always use Vector, Kaliyo just does not do much damage in all powertech gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richelieux Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 (edited) Heal-specced here and using Kaliyo in her DPS-stance. She deals nice damage and takes out mob after mob quickly, while I wreak havoc with backstabbing, slashing, bombing, stunning, dotting, etc. Its also rather easy to play aggro-ping-pong with her in damage-stance. Edited January 12, 2012 by Richelieux Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkshinoda Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 (edited) I play a hybrid concel (11 points for healing probes rest into concel) i have 0 downtime with kaliyo i decked her out in the level 40 tank pvp set she's sitting at 13.5k hp right now she is a total beast too level with now i barely even heal her anymore. Level 41 btw :3 Edited January 12, 2012 by tkshinoda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSMatthew Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Level 26... leveling with Kaliyol.. so far so good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Countryfiedjedi Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Concealment here... I use Vector (and recommend DPS, but Temple has worse gear atm)...I rather kill stuff fast and then regen a few secs instead of taking my time and having no downtime (Doc.. the "other" mode is buggy with stealth so i would never use him as conc) or taking my time and still having downtime (Tank) . The people having troubles with a companions while leveling are normally not picking the wrong one, they are just not gearing them good enough or are not playing "right" in general. Same here... at level 45, have all companions, and use Temple. The 2 of us take down elites (gold stars) with little issue. Although, I'm trying to make some nice droid parts as I'm curious what Scorpio can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amonet Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 since i have a lvl 50 armormech i kept kaliyo in lvl appropriate blues and epics the entire time and was able to solo Heoirc 4s easilywith her never dying. I must admitt she is a bit squishy when it comes to tanking 3 or 4 strongs/elites at the same time, but thats a problem not with her gear but with her tanking stance. I noticed companions dont get that 60% armor buff from their tanking stance that player tanks do. My Powertech in his tanking stance has around 50% armor mitigation while Kaliyo in the exact same gear only has around 25% armor mitigation. I dont know if thats an intentional oversight or what, but for a tank pet, missing that 25% extra armor is a huge deal. I've noticed this with all the different tanking pets like Blizz on my BH. He also gets the threat increase and 20% shield chance in his tanking stance but not the 60% armor increase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaRockStar Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 My favorite companion currently is SCORPIO. She is a the best tank IMO and seems to have good DPS. Before I had SCORPIO I was using Temple who is a great ranged DPS. I have been healer spec the whole time though. If I was concealment spec I would probably just stick with Vector. So yeah basically anyone but Kalyio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amonet Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 what exactly makes scorpio a better tank than kaliyo? From my experience every pet tank in this game has the exact same abilities they just differ based on if they are a ranged pet or a melee pet. Also getting a droid outfitted in all blues/epics is nearly impossible unless you have 400 cybertech with all epic schematics. I say this because droid parts are much harder to come by in comparison to the abundance of Bounty Hunter gear you get everywhere for Kaliyo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeoLager Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 (edited) what exactly makes scorpio a better tank than kaliyo? From my experience every pet tank in this game has the exact same abilities they just differ based on if they are a ranged pet or a melee pet. Also getting a droid outfitted in all blues/epics is nearly impossible unless you have 400 cybertech with all epic schematics. I say this because droid parts are much harder to come by in comparison to the abundance of Bounty Hunter gear you get everywhere for Kaliyo. Melee vs range. Versus melee mobs scorpio is like a vacuum and versus ranged she does just enough to keep them off you. Kaliyo on the other hand stands there like moving 3 feet is a major inconvenience and would interrupt her from having phone sex with her lesbian lover. Edited January 13, 2012 by GeoLager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorruptedFlesh Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Used Kaliyo until I've got Scorpio, it seems that the last holds the agro better. But yes, they are identical except for range. Melee tank suits me better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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