kuthroat Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 (edited) My question for (concelament) pvp build is what skills actually do a bleed affect. I see corrosive grenade (shrap bomb) and corrosive dart (vital shot) cause targets to poison (bleed). Are there some that I am missing? Should these really be in a consistant pvp rotation concealment build? If not, then are Culling (turn the tables) and tactical oppurtunity (round two) neccessary skills to get. I would think i should need tactical oppurtunity (round two) and therefore must apply poisions (bleeds) in order to get tachtical advantage (upper hand) back. Also, can someone give me their normal pvp rotation so I may analyze it? Edited January 10, 2012 by kuthroat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olliewilldie Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Yea you are missing one, the most important one for conceal spec anyway! Acid blade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taliknor Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Hint Hint... poison grenade is Lethality. I've played poison spec 'til 40 pvp. Basically assume that: 1. You're always in battle. If you're playing poison, you are cycling targets frequently, even if they aren't dead yet. 2. Don't get hit. Since more people are 50's now, I'm averaging out at around 180-240k dps on account of all the shields mitigation. (and that the next rank of poisons is not available yet.) It basically means that you are always 4th or 5th for dps each round. 3. Don't expect to kill somebody with poison. 9/10 somebody else will get the finishing blow. Distance, use you're snipe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuthroat Posted January 10, 2012 Author Share Posted January 10, 2012 fletch round and acid blade add a poison/bleed affect for 6 seconds upon use? Is this true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trotsky_tor Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Hint Hint... poison grenade is Lethality. I've played poison spec 'til 40 pvp. Basically assume that: 1. You're always in battle. If you're playing poison, you are cycling targets frequently, even if they aren't dead yet. 2. Don't get hit. Since more people are 50's now, I'm averaging out at around 180-240k dps on account of all the shields mitigation. (and that the next rank of poisons is not available yet.) It basically means that you are always 4th or 5th for dps each round. 3. Don't expect to kill somebody with poison. 9/10 somebody else will get the finishing blow. Distance, use you're snipe. 180k dps? Wow, you must be a monster out in those warzones. The entire opposing team is dead in one second! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caultonpos Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 huh - acid blade, corrosive dart say nothing about 'poison' so does Culling work with them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trotsky_tor Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 (edited) nm, misread Culling as Cull. Corrosive Dart and Corrosive Grenade are both poison abilities though. Edited January 10, 2012 by trotsky_tor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuthroat Posted January 10, 2012 Author Share Posted January 10, 2012 acid blade says internal damage. I am assuming that this is not a poison dot and therefore culling and tactical oppurtunity do NOT work in conjunction with this? Is this correct? Then the only affect in a concealment spec that actually applies a poison in a concealment spec is corrosive dart? Anyone know if this is correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caultonpos Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Corrosive dart is internal damage as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caultonpos Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 I guess if anyone has found Tactical Opportunity to work with Corrosive Dart can tell us if by poisoned they mean a DOT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trotsky_tor Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 there's no "Poison" damage type. There's Kinetic, Internal, Energy, and Elemental. Corrosive Dart and Corrosive Grenade are both 100% guaranteed poison effects, for the purposes of Cull (and presumably Culling/Tactical Opportunity). I can't say for Acid Blade, as I've never used it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trauglodyte Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 It is a old wording from pre-Beta. The Operative was originally designed to used poison attacks but it got changed acids without the tool tipds being updated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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