loopgru Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 No spoilers here particularly, just an observation... With Vette, I had the opportunity to actually go on a quest with her- objectives, stuff to do, etc- relatively early on in the affection spectrum. I just hit 10k with Ashara and never once had this experience- is this as intended? It's rather anticlimactic, especially given that it marks the dreaded "you're awesome and all, now we shall never speak again" point... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InsaneFrog Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 ya welcome to her quest line man they got so lazy on making her its not even funny.. A. No chance to turn her darkside.. B. No out of ship quests all you do is hear her whine on your ship about ****... we are suppose to be the the most twisted and corrupt class in the game yet we cant turn a f'n jedi padawan... C. if you want to put anything kind of gear on her that shows any kind of skin she goes invisible D. If you want to get any kind of other customization you have to get the key generator... like *** man this has got to be the worst/rushed companion in the game ... Yet she the ONLY female companion SI gets and she is the only melee DPS we get and she has no use to you other then DPS the story sucks the skins suck the looks suck and the quests are horrible... I personally am really pissed after hearing from a friend on how amazing the Sith Warrior companion that you Can turn to the darkside and corrupt to be an amazing companion... All and all if your into your companion quests dont even bother playing a SI until they fix this it really is a class changer I personally love the story lines in these games and having her the way she is ill be honest I wish i roll a Sith Warrior... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sw_dragon Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 I got all up in dat, if its any consolation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humus_ Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 I would at the very least like the option to boot her off my spaceship in mid flight. That line off her "I won't go against my teachings" becomes very annoying very fast. Especially since you can make her charge Jedi's like it was nothing. Make her corruptable, or give me the option to kill her. I don´t need all my companions anyway. Why would I want two apprentices ? And It's not like she would survive the trials ! Let Xaleb do to her what he did at the end of his trials Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karkais Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 (edited) That line off her "I won't go against my teachings" becomes very annoying very fast. Especially since you can make her charge Jedi's like it was nothing. Actually she says "Don't make me go against my teachings." Anyway, Im getting mighty irked at her now that her affection is rising. The romance would make sense if I was tempted to go back to lightside because of her, but as it is.. uhh no. I think Im going to let the 'romance' drop now. It's annoying that she is currently the most useful of my companions though.. >_< Generic minor spoilers about her and me: I mean, Ive watched shuttles of republic civilians be trapped behind closed doors in an exploding rep base, tortured people on a whim, killed people in cold blood when I no longer had use for them, and personally murdered a big bunch of helpless force-sensitives because Jedis didn't want them to turn Sith. Among other things. Then Im on my bridge, holding Ashara by the hand while looking at the stars and say "I always wanted to be a starship captain". Good lord, somethings out of joint here. Edited January 10, 2012 by Karkais Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humus_ Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Hahahahaha, well at least I'm not the only one who has that then The girl really needs to wise up who she is cruising with or get the hell off my ship! I wonder ... has anyone ever tried to see what happens at minus 10000 affection ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stillnotking Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Affection can't drop below zero, and nothing happens. In one of the early beta builds companions would leave if they disagreed strongly enough with your actions, but that was removed (along with the possibility of companion death). The dark side Ashara romance really makes no sense. All I can think is that they didn't want to give both Sith classes the ability to "turn" and romance a Jedi. But really, why not? The characters are quite different. Jaesa is much more developed personality-wise though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karkais Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 (edited) The dark side Ashara romance really makes no sense. All I can think is that they didn't want to give both Sith classes the ability to "turn" and romance a Jedi. But really, why not? The characters are quite different. Jaesa is much more developed personality-wise though. Like I said elsewhere, I dont mind there being Asharas kind of 'redeeming' romance, as long as its not the ONLY choice like it is now. The one time with Darth Lachris is the only one that has made some manner of sense so far. Technically Rylee as well, who is just a wimpy girl drawn to my power, a use/discard type of affair. (I still hated when she sent me mail about needing help and I couldnt even enter my own cult's building o_O) I think Asharas romance would make more sense with a sith warrior and vice versa... It sucks if its going to stay like this. I guess I need to roll a warrior.. sigh Edited January 10, 2012 by Karkais Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mordyth Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 I love having her. She looks pretty crap, would love to be able to customise her tails, but she is just fun to have in the party because she does some nice melee damage and can tank better than I can. our ranged dps guy annoys me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loopgru Posted January 10, 2012 Author Share Posted January 10, 2012 So much Ashara hate. -_- I'm actually almost full LS, so she and I get along great and her storyline for a carebear sith works remarkably well and ties in nicely with the main SI story. My issue with her isn't that I don't like her, but rather frustration that her storyline seems to have a lot of potential but to nonetheless be rather thoroughly underdeveloped. There are a couple of times where it looks like there were *supposed* to be companion quests with her that were simply not implemented. As far as quantitative metrics go, compare that Vette has 25 quests to offer while Ashara has a scant 16; I know you get her much later, but really? Finally, again... The whole "whee, max affection, now I'm an insensate statue" bit is really, really irksome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SummonerStarn Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 And as far as I can tell, you only go on quests for your 1st companion (Khem, Vette, Mako etc.) All the others just go off on their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evileeyore Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Affection can't drop below zero, and nothing happens. In one of the early beta builds companions would leave if they disagreed strongly enough with your actions, but that was removed (along with the possibility of companion death). huh... I'm at -2 with her. But then I tortured her, treated her like crap during the mission, and told her to take a hike when it was over... so I started out at -2 with her. If it's a bug, I'ts one I'm going to try to keep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuliusMidnight Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 huh... I'm at -2 with her. But then I tortured her, treated her like crap during the mission, and told her to take a hike when it was over... so I started out at -2 with her. If it's a bug, I'ts one I'm going to try to keep. You can stay negative and go deeper into it, just VERY slowly and the only change will be more failed missions. So if you want to run with her with you (while you piss her off) and send your other companions away, then have a grand ol' time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evileeyore Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 You can stay negative and go deeper into it, just VERY slowly and the only change will be more failed missions. So if you want to run with her with you (while you piss her off) and send your other companions away, then have a grand ol' time. SWEET! Then eventually I'm hoping Bioware write in a "sacrifice Ashara for Zash" quest so my destruction of this bright shining soul can be complete. /mustache twirl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heimskringla Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Man, it would have been awesome to have the option to sacrifice Ashara for Zash instead of Khem, who is actually awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laslaya Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Zash would have been a great romance companion for the dark SI, evil and manipulative... so dreamy. She's the only quest giver I enjoy being told what to do by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiachsidhe Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 (edited) She makes an awful Sith companion. She really should have gone to the Jedi Knights/consular. A lot of companions are just lzy and ill conceived. Like many were designed purely as a way for Bioware to look directly at teh camera and say "oooh what are you gonna do nooow? alignment or affection! This is deep right?" Edited February 8, 2012 by Fiachsidhe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuyuske Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 To everyone who thinks that Ashara is a "Light Side" companion, and that you can't corrupt her... ...You're mistaken. As you increase her affection - and remember, affection can be bought with gifts - you can slowly bring her around to your way of thinking. I recall making some pretty cold-blooded "kill 'em all" choices on later worlds like Belsavis and Voss, and gaining Affection from Ashara for them. She'll start talking about how the Sith might be right about the "passion" thing. She'll get more and more fed up with the Jedi. She won't become Darth Ashara, diabolic scourge of the galaxy...but she'll go, let's say, Dark I or maybe Dark II. Now, the end result is still a touch disappointing... ...In that she'll never officially renounce the Jedi and become a Sith. She basically becomes a Dark Jedi. But you're not necessarily stuck with a holy Jedi paladin goodie two-shoes in your crew of ruthless killers. She might not be as hardcore as Khem or Xalek or even Andronikous, but she'll kill without flinching....and if you keep her geared, she's very good at killing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parthis Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 She'll never be Dark Side, but that doesn't mean she disapproves of evil acts - she dislikes cruelty and unnecessary killing, however when there is a purpose to violent actions and decisions that are DS in nature she approves of them as long as she sees the big picture. She's a character walking the line between between her Jedi heritage and her new found power and freedom as apprentice to the Sith. She's young and confused. I don't get the hate for it; it's one of the more interesting companion relationships - she's strong willed, will not bend on her beliefs, but you can see she is slowly embracing the Sith teachings, culture and drive... ... also, the story isn't over. If you want shallow and underdeveloped try Mako out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielb Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 Well, at least you guys are getting her quests. I had gotten about 3 then she became glitched. I have her about 500 short of max affection. Randomly the icon pops to speak at the ship, as soon as a I zone into the hanger bay, it goes off. When I go to the ship, nothing....I submitted a help desk ticket. Same BS as always, we'll look into it, even though we are gonna close your ticket...keep an eye out for patch notes. Seriously lame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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