DioHammer Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Does anybody use her for this? I've been using qyzen since the start and got really tired of him, he's just not very interesting. I'm full healing spec and level 44, but I can barely survive with her as my companion:( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester-Head Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Does anybody use her for this? I've been using qyzen since the start and got really tired of him, he's just not very interesting. I'm full healing spec and level 44, but I can barely survive with her as my companion:( Nadia (in my experience) is alot like Qyzen, except for... she will not draw alot of Aggro. She does very decent damage, has some crowd control (AoE Knockdown) abilities. But you have to keep on your toes because mobs will still shift fire to you for healing/supporting Nadia. Shes fun to have along but i still end up finding my way back to Qyzen for any troubling mobs i have. I haven't gotten her decent enough gear yet though, might be my issue. But im 50, and short of decking her out in PVP gear.. not sure what to do. A well geared Qyzen is a tank that can get you thru anything. You might be sick of him now. But you'll love him when he gets you thru a few hard mobs/bosses later. SIDENOTE: when you unlock Nadia.. Max her Affection when you can. You'll get multiple "quest" completions that will give you a nice boost in EXP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaiyne Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 I can't quit the damn Lizard I do use Nadia when in a duo, just to burn through stuff quicker, but for soloing, I still default to Qyzen. Full Seer Sage level 45 atm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DioHammer Posted January 10, 2012 Author Share Posted January 10, 2012 Thanks for the input guys:) I just wish I could stick some medium armor on her at least, she is just too dang squishy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raltar Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 I have no problems rolling with Nadia as a full heal specced Sage. Just slap a shield on her and yourself and use your abilities intelligently. For me, only elites will break through the shield. She also pulls aggro just fine, especially on single targets. This is what I do: Force armor on both of us and I start the pull. If it's a group of standards and weaks and they are relatively close together, I open with force quake. Nadia jumps in and starts doing her silly aoe thinger and by that time, the weaks will be dead and the standards will be basically half health and normally on the ground from the force quake. I follow up with project on whatever target Nadia is on and TK throw and disturbance in between that and project. Stuff is dead in less than 15 seconds. If there is a strong in the group, I force armor, mind crush+weaken mind on the strong, Nadia jumps in and I project+tk throw with Disturbance when both are on cooldown. Mobs usually dead less than 30 seconds. Elite is basically the same setup as strongs but I'll tank the mob until Nadia grabs aggro(normally shortly after my force armor drops) and then I DPS the mob until Nadia's force armor drops and I reapply, heal if needed and go back to DPSing the elite. When the second shield drops, I just go to full time healing Nadia while tabbing over to the elite to apply mind crush and weaken mind as needed. If it looks like Nadia might drop a bit too low, I force stun to get some breathing room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tristanian Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Nadia starts off as a decent damage dealer but obviously much weaker than Fezz in terms of tanking (lack of a taunt and light armor are the biggest drawbacks). What most people fail to realize however, is that (in many ways) she mirrors your class, so you can easily dump older gear on her. Eventually she becomes an absolute beast (mine is sitting at almost 15k hp atm), able to take on almost any mob but the toughest elites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonSoot Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Nadia starts off as a decent damage dealer but obviously much weaker than Fezz in terms of tanking (lack of a taunt and light armor are the biggest drawbacks). What most people fail to realize however, is that (in many ways) she mirrors your class, so you can easily dump older gear on her. Eventually she becomes an absolute beast (mine is sitting at almost 15k hp atm), able to take on almost any mob but the toughest elites. This. Your old gear goes to her, she'll continually be your most well equipped companion in the long run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHRISGG Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Even without the gear advantage she's still really good. Easily our highest DPS companion and our best AoE DPS companion. You can tank or kite most pulls yourself, so she's very usable when soloing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyDale Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 (edited) Does anybody use her for this? I've been using qyzen since the start and got really tired of him, he's just not very interesting. Qyzen is awesome. He looks bad ***, has a cool and original personality, tanks better than most players - and I love his storylines. I can honestly say I have no complaints with Qyzen, outside the bug-related issues which affects all companions. The only thing "not very interesting" is your taste in characters In fact Qyzen is so well-acted and scripted he could have his own movie. I haven't gotten Nadia Grell yet (I'm level 40) but from what I've seen so far she is the one who looks un-interesting. She has been very generic so far in all of her cutscenes, and might as well have been air-lifted from one of those annoying teenager movies that pollute my television from time to time. Maybe she gets better...but as of now, comparing her to qyzen is like comparing the newer Star Wars movies to the old Trilogy that began in the 70s. In terms of depth, originality, and just plain awesomness, there is no contest. Qyzen > Nadia. Edited January 10, 2012 by JeremyDale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruuprect Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 I use Nadia, I had a lot of old orange gear I had saved from leveling and put it on Nadia and modded the heck out of it. Right now she has more HP's then me and does awsome damage. I burn through mobs much faster than with Qyzen and about the same amount of healing. I put a shield on both of us and send her in, she usually keeps aggro for most of the fight but it isnt to hard to keep us both up if I get aggro from a mob or 2. I wish we got nadia at earlier levels, leveling would have been so much faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyDale Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 I use Nadia, I had a lot of old orange gear I had saved from leveling and put it on Nadia and modded the heck out of it. Right now she has more HP's then me and does awsome damage. I burn through mobs much faster than with Qyzen and about the same amount of healing. I put a shield on both of us and send her in, she usually keeps aggro for most of the fight but it isnt to hard to keep us both up if I get aggro from a mob or 2. I wish we got nadia at earlier levels, leveling would have been so much faster. Leveling on this game is already inasnely fast. If they made it any faster I'd just give up trying to do anything on any of the planets lol I have no idea what you sages out there are doing, but if you are leveling slowly on this game you are DEFFINITELY doing something wrong. I can't even farm for credits without gaining a zillion levels...it's so bad in fact I have to wait till a planet is entirely greyed out to me before I can actually quest there and explore the content, else I will outlevel the main story line by at least a couple of dozen levels. I have attempted to level as slowly as possible, sticking to nothing but the class quests and only farming and questing on planets 10 levels under me, and I"m still level 40 already and the game hasn't even been out a month. It's so sad to see what WoW has done to MMOs. They should really just do away with the whole leveling up system - it's pointless as no matter how quickly developers make it players are always going to complain it's too slow. So why even bother. I say just start everyone out at max level, at least that way I could enjoy all the content on par with my level so it was at least somewhat challenging lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruuprect Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Leveling on this game is already inasnely fast. If they made it any faster I'd just give up trying to do anything on any of the planets lol I have no idea what you sages out there are doing, but if you are leveling slowly on this game you are DEFFINITELY doing something wrong. I can't even farm for credits without gaining a zillion levels...it's so bad in fact I have to wait till a planet is entirely greyed out to me before I can actually quest there and explore the content, else I will outlevel the main story line by at least a couple of dozen levels. I have attempted to level as slowly as possible, sticking to nothing but the class quests and only farming and questing on planets 10 levels under me, and I"m still level 40 already and the game hasn't even been out a month. It's so sad to see what WoW has done to MMOs. They should really just do away with the whole leveling up system - it's pointless as no matter how quickly developers make it players are always going to complain it's too slow. So why even bother. I say just start everyone out at max level, at least that way I could enjoy all the content on par with my level so it was at least somewhat challenging lol LOL, settle down man I wasn't complaining, just making a point. I also thought leveling was really fast and easy. I was just trying to impress the point of how well Nadia was working out for me by saying I wish she would have been available earlier. I also like the playstyle i can use with Nadia as opposed to Qyzen. I agree with you that people do complain alot for no reason, I probably could have gotten my point across another way, just wasn't thinking about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DioHammer Posted January 10, 2012 Author Share Posted January 10, 2012 Thanks again for all of the input. I gave her a dark 3 double bladed saber that had +50ish more max damage than the one she came with and decked her out with a bunch of orange gear I saved. She has gotten way better or I have just gotten more used to her style. Instead of Qyzens boring fights, theres a frantic brawl going on every time I pull:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DioHammer Posted January 10, 2012 Author Share Posted January 10, 2012 Qyzen is awesome. He looks bad ***, has a cool and original personality, tanks better than most players - and I love his storylines. I can honestly say I have no complaints with Qyzen, outside the bug-related issues which affects all companions. The only thing "not very interesting" is your taste in characters In fact Qyzen is so well-acted and scripted he could have his own movie. I haven't gotten Nadia Grell yet (I'm level 40) but from what I've seen so far she is the one who looks un-interesting. She has been very generic so far in all of her cutscenes, and might as well have been air-lifted from one of those annoying teenager movies that pollute my television from time to time. Maybe she gets better...but as of now, comparing her to qyzen is like comparing the newer Star Wars movies to the old Trilogy that began in the 70s. In terms of depth, originality, and just plain awesomness, there is no contest. Qyzen > Nadia. All he ever does is mumble like a trash compactor about scorekeeper this, and scorekeeper that. The honorable primitive hunter routine just got annoying to me after the first 30 levels, and painfull by level 40. To each their own though, I'm glad somebody likes him:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuzue Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 I used zenith the most after I got him, he seemed to do a lot of damage and I could heal him pretty easily. I leveled with a friend from 45 onwards though, so I'm not sure how he is to solo with for the last five levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inune Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 (edited) All he ever does is mumble like a trash compactor about scorekeeper this, and scorekeeper that. The honorable primitive hunter routine just got annoying to me after the first 30 levels, and painfull by level 40. ******* signed. If I'm going to have a boring companion, I may as well have one I can give my hand-me-downs to and who I can understand without having to look at the bloody chat box every time he says something. All of the consular companions are pretty boring in terms of personality. Theran is probably the most interesting of the bunch, but you can't really use him as a Seer companion. Nadia can pump out some pretty impressive damage and, because you can give her hand-me-downs, gets more impressive quicker. Lack of a taunt can be kind of annoying, but I haven't seen many situations where she can't get aggro on something before my shield gets taken down. Edited January 10, 2012 by Inune Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubblebass Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 I switched to the Lt. After using Fess up until 40. With Iresso I was able to kill a little faster. Now at 45 I use Nadia. I also gave her a lot of orange gear I have been saving up. Next on my list is to upgrade her saber. She does great damage without so I am anxious to see how she does after a weapon upgrade. She isn't a tank, but when they die this fast, it really doesn't matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerudan Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 I use her since I got her. She is clearly the best companion for healers. You can normally keep her alive quite easily and she does great damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inune Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 She isn't a tank, but when they die this fast, it really doesn't matter. I honestly think she does just fine tanking. It might just be because higher stats from hand-me-down gear counteracts the lower armor class, but I switched out Qyzen for Iresso and then Iresso for Nadia and they were all equally easy to keep healed on easy mobs and challenging to keep healed on mobs with heavy AE damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jswizzle Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Nadia rules, and her voice acting is so good. Once you get high level on the Sage you really don't need a tank anymore for solo content. Just DPS things down. Another trick I do sometimes with Nadia is unload DPS at the start of the fight while nadia beats on the mob from behind. I'll use cloud mind to drop agro off me back to Nadia. If nadia starts to drop I'll rescue her back and by that time I've healed up with rejuv. It's a lot of fun when it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winfrid Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 I just wanted to add my two cents. If Nadia uses double-bladed staff she's like Shadow Jedi, right? So technicly she should have a taunt, as a Shadow one can be a tank in the Light Armor... Don't have her yet and im 41 but will try her for sure. Anyway I dont mind Qyzen Wanted to try the Lt, but dont know If i want to get new gear for him, and Qyzen got lots of blue stuff on him from heroics and flashpoints Im full seer btw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tufy Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Does anybody use her for this? When I'm Seer, I don't swap to anyone else. She hits like a truck, has very good AoE damage output and when properly geared, can semi-tank things. Only as TK will I switch to Cedrax for very hard fights (which, however, are few and far between. Even for 2+ missions, I'll keep Nadia out most of the time). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archaegeo Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Healer or not i use Nadia for most things. If its a really tough fight, Ill switch to Ire or Q well geared just to take the beating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattybux Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Just dinged 50 and have been using Nadia for the last 10 levels. On multiple strong/elite mobs I'll switch out to Qyzen for the damage absorption, but as far as I'm concerned the additional dps of Nadia was what was needed to get me through the last of the grind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delton Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 ******* signed. If I'm going to have a boring companion, I may as well have one I can give my hand-me-downs to and who I can understand without having to look at the bloody chat box every time he says something. All of the consular companions are pretty boring in terms of personality. Theran is probably the most interesting of the bunch, but you can't really use him as a Seer companion. Nadia can pump out some pretty impressive damage and, because you can give her hand-me-downs, gets more impressive quicker. Lack of a taunt can be kind of annoying, but I haven't seen many situations where she can't get aggro on something before my shield gets taken down. I've been using Theran since I got him as a seer spec. I feel slow with him sometimes but I've had no trouble on the class story bosses that people complain about (Master Sidone pre-nerf and act I end boss at level 30). Between mind snap, force stun, and holiday, we can almost lock out a boss from it's casting skills. He turns your focus to more dps-ing; force armor and your instant cast HoT can keep you up in most fights, and fights seem to have a lot less micromanagement. Sort of strange for a healer, but I couldn't stand Qyzen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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