Dronin Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 The tank companions you receive early in the game start strong but become more or less pointless by belsavis, they mitigate so little damage that they will often die in a pull with 1 strong 2 normal even with gear.... (tested with smuggler/consular) an easy solution would be to add the stance armour buff to the pets that players posess. ie +100% as it is once you reach a certain level, it doesnt matter what role you are bar healer, you use the healer pet as its simply the most efficient.
Glowrod Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 (edited) I'm playing a Jedi Consulor Sage and have the companion Qyzen Fess as a tank. So far to level 25 he's a great companion. I send him in to tank and heal him from a distance. I'm able to take on Gold elites 2-3 levels above me one on one, or group trash with no problem at all. I make sure to keep his armor and weapon updated when ever I get a chance... The only real challenge is that he doesn't always hold agro as well as I'd like, but one learns how to deal with that. Edited January 9, 2012 by Glowrod
RamataKahn Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 Tank companions are only good if you are a healer.
Sewl Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 i leveled most of the way with M1-4X as a DPS commando and i have to say it was a breeze. Get the moddable droid parts and spend your commendations on new mods as soon as your level permits. most of the time my companion would live through a gold star, while it's not as much as a player could take, for a pet it's pretty baller.
ihateyouall Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 you are supposed to upgrade their gear dude
Resallaprov Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 Khem Val would like a word with you tanking my Heroic 4+ dailies. You gotta keep their gear up to par, just sayin'.
faibre Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 You gotta keep their gear up to par, just sayin'. QFT got some pvp armor on Xalek and he is a beast
smkymtnman Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 I am only lvl 30, but my T7 droid rocks it pretty well. Have you been gearing your companion? It makes a huge difference.
RamataKahn Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 i leveled most of the way with M1-4X as a DPS commando and i have to say it was a breeze. Get the moddable droid parts and spend your commendations on new mods as soon as your level permits. most of the time my companion would live through a gold star, while it's not as much as a player could take, for a pet it's pretty baller. Me and Dorne my healer can live through two gold stars and a silver star and can solo champions. Try that as a dps with a tank companion, you won't make it.
RamataKahn Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 I am only lvl 30, but my T7 droid rocks it pretty well. Have you been gearing your companion? It makes a huge difference. Back in my 30s I spend over 150k on gear for forex, I myself had purples and blues on me as well. It was waste of money.
Glowrod Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 (edited) I used to walk 10 miles to school, up hill both ways, in the winter time, barefoot! Oh, sorry. Seems like we all are sinking into a bragging contest now... Edited January 9, 2012 by Glowrod
JHarkrider Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 Me and Dorne my healer can live through two gold stars and a silver star and can solo champions. Try that as a dps with a tank companion, you won't make it. Not entirely true. I'm a DPS with a tanking companion, I just recently (yesterday) solo'd a Heroic 2+ mission. The groups of enemies were a mixture of elites/strongs, and the final boss was a champion. Solo'd it with moderate difficulty. I keep my companion's gear updated, though.
Lyaise Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 The tank companions you receive early in the game start strong but become more or less pointless by belsavis, they mitigate so little damage that they will often die in a pull with 1 strong 2 normal even with gear.... (tested with smuggler/consular) an easy solution would be to add the stance armour buff to the pets that players posess. ie +100% as it is once you reach a certain level, it doesnt matter what role you are bar healer, you use the healer pet as its simply the most efficient. You need to stop generalising with this type of comment. Tank companion is pointless? As a sorc healer, Khem Val (properly geared) can just be sent in on a group of mobs while you mix damage, heals and interrupts.
Dronin Posted January 9, 2012 Author Posted January 9, 2012 I'm playing a Jedi Consulor Sage and have the companion Qyzen Fess as a tank. So far to level 25 he's a great companion. I send him in to tank and heal him from a distance. I'm able to take on Gold elites 2-3 levels above me one on one, or group trash with no problem at all. I make sure to keep his armor and weapon updated when ever I get a chance... The only real challenge is that he doesn't always hold agro as well as I'd like, but one learns how to deal with that. are you at belsavis? there is a huge curve... please recontribute when your a little higher buddy
Jeronas Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 Back in my 30s I spend over 150k on gear for forex, I myself had purples and blues on me as well. It was waste of money. Nahh, I keep my Kira companion fully updated in own crafted gear! It makes a huge difference! She dishes out a hell more DPS and also stays alive longer.
RamataKahn Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 Not entirely true. I'm a DPS with a tanking companion, I just recently (yesterday) solo'd a Heroic 2+ mission. The groups of enemies were a mixture of elites/strongs, and the final boss was a champion. Solo'd it with moderate difficulty. I keep my companion's gear updated, though. I'd like to see you go against 2 elites and a strong at the same time as dps/healer
Razhah Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 M1-4X seems a little easy to kill for a tank companion. I have him very well geared and I am a healer so I can keep him up but it seems like I have to spam heals on him just to keep him upright on gold stars. Dorne and Jorgan seem like they can take at least as good of a beating as Fourex. I still use him though because I think his character is pure awesome.
Dronin Posted January 9, 2012 Author Posted January 9, 2012 i have a fully geared qyzen at 50 and fully geared nadia the difference in the damage they take is so little.... please people go test
RamataKahn Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 Nahh, I keep my Kira companion fully updated in own crafted gear! It makes a huge difference! She dishes out a hell more DPS and also stays alive longer. What's with the Nahh and the rolleyes? Are you saying I'm lying?
RamataKahn Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 i have a fully geared qyzen at 50 and fully geared nadia the difference in the damage they take is so little.... please people go test Obviously we are talking about before 50.... please people go read
Glowrod Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 are you at belsavis? there is a huge curve... please recontribute when your a little higher buddy Boy, aren’t we an ungracious one. Since I'm not familiar with that location, I don't even know if it's on the republic side. Could be Empire for all I know. That's why I qualified my statement with my level. No need for you to be a butt about it.
JHarkrider Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 I'd like to see you go against 2 elites and a strong at the same time as dps/healer Sure, let me just reroll, find a healing companion, find a group of enemies... What would be the point? You claimed that a particular setup would fail in a given situation, which isn't true. I'm not going out of my way to disprove another one of your claims.
paul_preib Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 I think it's pretty natural for tanking companions to have the most overt display of scaling to where more and more slack need be taken up by the player. I am only 28 thus far on my highest toon (sorc) and have benefited by my being thorough about doing all flashpoints/heroics/regular quests at least once which leaves khem and I fighting mobs usually 2-3 levels under me, but I still find myself with little issue keeping him alive against multiple strong mobs without breaking on CC (beyond short stuns) as long as I toss him a bubble at the start of a fight he's good to go. Now the one place where he finally hasn't kept pace is that I am no longer as readily able to bonzai through 2 man heroics with him alone without taking my time/using significant CC/popping the occasional medkit. Some of that has been a little bit of laziness to his gear (he has been upgraded but only as rewards come with little overt effort keeping him completely up to par), but overall I think it quite fair the rate he scales. I get the feeling by that in 5-10 levels I may have to be more on the ball to keeping his equipment updated if I expect him to be a reasonable tank, but again at the end of the day I think that's rather fair.
RamataKahn Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 Sure, let me just reroll, find a healing companion, find a group of enemies... What would be the point? You claimed that a particular setup would fail in a given situation, which isn't true. I'm not going out of my way to disprove another one of your claims. Sorry, meant as a dps/tank
Dronin Posted January 9, 2012 Author Posted January 9, 2012 Boy, aren’t we an ungracious one. Since I'm not familiar with that location, I don't even know if it's on the republic side. Could be Empire for all I know. That's why I qualified my statement with my level. No need for you to be a butt about it. didnt mean to offend you. yes you go there as republic just dont neglect tharen unless your a healer, you will thank me later! i promise... i did spercifically mention at a certain point... i like you used qyzen for a large chunk of the game
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