Tycoon Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 (edited) In a week and 5 days. At that point, we will find out how many are going to stay and who will leave. If enough people dont resub, swtor will suffer. The gaming community will get it's hands on how many canceled their subscriptions and it will become headlines. I have seen this happend to Warhammer. At launch, warhammer had bugs, imbalance issues, and poor mechanics. As a result it suffered the worst drop in cancellations in MMO history. But some forget, warhammer actually turned out to be a pretty cool game. I had alot of enjoyment out of warhammer and so did those who stayed. Mythic just couldnt keep up with the demands of players and their past failures. Now, put away your prejustice. Im not canceling my subscription or raging how bad SWTOR is. Im just sharing you with what i have seen and my opinion of the future. Im going to continue to play swtor and enjoy it. Edited January 8, 2012 by Tycoon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeinasindorei Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Except those numbers won't come out for months. Not to mention, not every single person bought the game on the 20th. Some waited a few days and some only bought it a few days ago. Some will buy it after the "deadline". Companies don't base numbers off of subs after 1 month. They do it over quarters. Your assumptions are meaningless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UjellyTrollicus Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 not as many as you want im sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drbeat Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Lots of people bought 3 and 6 month game cards when they bought the game, anticipating they would want to play that long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaonnor Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Except those numbers won't come out for months. Not to mention, not every single person bought the game on the 20th. Some waited a few days and some only bought it a few days ago. Some will buy it after the "deadline". Companies don't base numbers off of subs after 1 month. They do it over quarters. Your assumptions are meaningless. While I agree they don't, the majority pre-ordered (at least 1 million people), if suddenly 500,000 of those people leave, they'll feel it and EA shareholders will flip balls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tycoon Posted January 8, 2012 Author Share Posted January 8, 2012 (edited) Except those numbers won't come out for months. Not to mention, not every single person bought the game on the 20th. Some waited a few days and some only bought it a few days ago. Some will buy it after the "deadline". Companies don't base numbers off of subs after 1 month. They do it over quarters. Your assumptions are meaningless. It isnt meaningless. Companies still keep records how many subscribe and those who cancel. This usually leaks out to the media, and editors dont wait for quarters to post their findings. I do admit. My assumtion is flawed. But at some point, those who have canceled already will run out of time. I dont know about you, but my subscription doesnt last for an entire quarter. Edited January 8, 2012 by Tycoon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tycoon Posted January 8, 2012 Author Share Posted January 8, 2012 (edited) Lots of people bought 3 and 6 month game cards when they bought the game, anticipating they would want to play that long. Im sure alot of people have done that. But im sure the adverage person just bought a month subscription. Edited January 8, 2012 by Tycoon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sDiesel Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 ill be getting 1 more month for sure, just to finish my single player game...havent hit 50 yet. dunno if ill sub after that, dont really see the point. the game just didnt bring enough to the table for me (not talking endgame) =/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptRavenous Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 This game is VERY family-friendly. I play with my wife, her brother, my daughter, and my son. We are enjoying it more than we ever did World of Warcraft. Many of the "hardcore players" who have no life beyond sitting in front of their PC 24 hours a day will quit, about a third of them already have. Another third will shortly, I am sure. This is what comes of having no patience. We are taking our time, exploring all aspects of the game, re-running heroics and space missions daily, helping each other with crew skills and other heroics we pick up. The game will be better off without those that complain at the drop of a hat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xugos Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 I'll likely not be giving Bioware any more of my money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFugitive Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 (edited) I started on the 13thdec, have around 30 players on my friends list, and of those 30 only one has stopped logging in, the rest are still playing and seem to still love the game, even the ones at 50. But i have been through many failed launchs, including warhammer which i quite enjoyed until i got into the upper levels and endgame in it. No doubt quite afew will leave after free month, alot of people hop around mmo's these days, stay for first month or two then quit, but not before they tell friends and troll whatever game they're leaving, which seems to cause a mass exodus, other things factor into it aswell, but in short, just as hyping a game up can get alot of people to try it out, it can also destroy it if it turns negative. Just my opinion though, not saying this is fact. However, i think ToR will be around for quite some time, don't personally think it'll crash, some will leave but i think many will stay. People playing seem happy with it, it's only when you come here to general forums that you see alot of negative threads. I am not going to throw out the traditional line "it's only been out xxx weeks", but i do enjoy the game, even on my 2nd playthrough, so instead I'll just say that i understand things take time to fix and i am here for the long haul. It's hard to say what others will do. Edited January 8, 2012 by TheFugitive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarthorn Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 This game is VERY family-friendly. I play with my wife, her brother, my daughter, and my son. We are enjoying it more than we ever did World of Warcraft. Many of the "hardcore players" who have no life beyond sitting in front of their PC 24 hours a day will quit, about a third of them already have. Another third will shortly, I am sure. This is what comes of having no patience. We are taking our time, exploring all aspects of the game, re-running heroics and space missions daily, helping each other with crew skills and other heroics we pick up. The game will be better off without those that complain at the drop of a hat. Agreed, I play with my brother and RL friends, although they didn't join until a couple of weeks after Xmas (I was in early access) it's been great fun. The problem is a lot of the "hardcore" players are your typical 1% crowd....dailies and dailies only once they hit max level, forgetting they also have: Legacy xp to earn Lots of codex entries unfinished Datacrons to find Titles to earn Raids to run Crafting to do 7 other stories to complete Anyone that hits 50 and claims to have completed the game is an out and out liar, not finished by a long way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tycoon Posted January 8, 2012 Author Share Posted January 8, 2012 I agree with all of you. I too take my time with the game. That might be the reason im staying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorvan Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 (edited) Im sure alot of people have done that. But im sure the adverage person just bought a month subscription. I bought a 60 day time card only because it's apparently the lowest denomination they sell and I'll be damned if they get my credit card info. I'm sure others did the same. The security of my personal finances is more important than buying a couple months time I may not use. Edited January 8, 2012 by Zorvan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bhigtimm Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Agreed, I play with my brother and RL friends, although they didn't join until a couple of weeks after Xmas (I was in early access) it's been great fun. The problem is a lot of the "hardcore" players are your typical 1% crowd....dailies and dailies only once they hit max level, forgetting they also have: Legacy xp to earn Lots of codex entries unfinished Datacrons to find Titles to earn Raids to run Crafting to do 7 other stories to complete Anyone that hits 50 and claims to have completed the game is an out and out liar, not finished by a long way. Legacy that means nothing currently A codex where 150 or so entries are bugged 75% + of titles are bugged or have been removed Raids are bugged Crafting is meaningless because the high end gear doesn't compare to gear available in other ways and 7 story which are mostly more go to x kill y get gear that you won't wear because you're modding up that orange piece you got 10 levels ago. So yeah, why would I pay 15 dollars a month to replay a game 7 times? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorvan Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 (edited) Legacy that means nothing currently A codex where 150 or so entries are bugged 75% + of titles are bugged or have been removed Raids are bugged Crafting is meaningless because the high end gear doesn't compare to gear available in other ways and 7 story which are mostly more go to x kill y get gear that you won't wear because you're modding up that orange piece you got 10 levels ago. So yeah, why would I pay 15 dollars a month to replay a game 7 times? Not to mention that 3/4 of those other stories content is redoing the same stuff you did on the first run through. You redo the same sidequests, the same heroics, etc., etc., to get a few new paragraphs of story. Edited January 8, 2012 by Zorvan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aVmuse Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 So yeah, why would I pay 15 dollars a month to replay a game 7 times? Class stories are unique, there you go. But i doubt you could tell the difference, because i guess a Bounty Hunter story and Sith inquistor story are exactly to you. Excuse while a ROFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aVmuse Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Not to mention that 3/4 of those other stories content is redoing the same stuff you did on the first run through. You redo the same sidequests, the same heroics, etc., etc., to get a few new paragraphs of story. 1/4 more story then any other MMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazz Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 (edited) I can't wait. You wanna know why? Because then I will not have to wade thru tons of pointless "Hate the game" rage quit threads and Doomsayer "Games gonna fail" BS. I cannot wait for all of you to be gone. Then maybe we will have a decent community once all the WOW fanboi's and hater's have gone back to WOW or where ever they came from. Like the idiot that just posted below me. Edited January 8, 2012 by Kazz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorvan Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 1/4 more story then any other MMO No. Just voiced for the simpletons who can't/won't read, so they think there's more story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warzau Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 I had my subscription info entered, but removed it when I lost 13k credits to a known bug, and the customer service response was "accept responsibility for your actions, don't do it again" REALLY? So I put in another ticket using smaller words this time, and got a different response."We've forwarded your issue on to someone else, etc etc." The game blocking bugs, and horrible UI are holding this game back.Like most MMO's they release alpha/beta and ask us to pay while they fix things.I think the game has incredible potential, but they got $79.99 of my money and I'll be damned if they take me for another $14.99. How's that for taking responsibility for YOUR bugs Bioware... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruug Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 I can't wait. You wanna know why? Because then I will not have to wade thru tons of pointless "Hate the game" rage quit threads and Doomsayer "Games gonna fail" BS. I cannot wait for all of you to be gone. Then maybe we will have a decent community once all the WOW fanboi's and hater's have gone back to WOW or where ever they came from. Like the idiot that just posted below me. ^^^THIS!^^^ I am with you 100%. I really don't care if someone leaves if they are really that unhappy. I only care that I will be still playing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UjellyTrollicus Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 I can't wait. You wanna know why? Because then I will not have to wade thru tons of pointless "Hate the game" rage quit threads and Doomsayer "Games gonna fail" BS. I cannot wait for all of you to be gone. Then maybe we will have a decent community once all the WOW fanboi's and hater's have gone back to WOW or where ever they came from. Like the idiot that just posted below me. don't get your hopes up, im sure atleast half of them will keep playing. most of them probably dont even hate the game, they just like to troll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teladis Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 No lfg system.No Mod supportNo UI changing. Ya, this game will not meet the numbers they hope for n a few months unless they do some fast changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerfectTemp Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 If 80% of the people unsub there will still be atleast one full server and considering its not cross-server pvp then it doesn't bother me as long as they keep that server up. Kthxbai if people don't like the game it's their choice to unsub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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