Yevon Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Speaking of comprehension skills, you don't seem to have understood a word that has been said in this thread. At what point have I not? "Up to 5 days" means 1-5 days. We are still 6 days out. Perhaps its you who are not comprehending? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaveRaider Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Hello smart-han, "Up to" 5 days means that there's a possibility of you accessing the game 5 days before the game launches. This is a lie, for if you pre-order the game now you will at most get 2 days of Early Access. The taste of delicious developer-feet can be deceiving, my friend. The developers cannot "theoretically" give you 5 days of Early Access or advertise it, if you'll lucky to get 3 at most. :supson: Let me describe you some elementary set theory. Let frame the statement "Up to 5" as "Belongs to set A" where set A={0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5}. If set B, where B= {0, 1, 2, 3}, is a subset of A (which, of course, it is), then by the transitive relation of subsets to sets (transitivity is usually an innate property to such relations, you can pick up any textbook on the subject for proof), any subset of B is also a subset of A. If the answer to the question "Belongs to set B" (which translates to "Up to 3") is "true", then the answer to the first question "Belongs to set A" must also be true. Therefore, if you are given any # corresponding to an element of set B, you are also given a # in set A. Which means if you do get 3, the answer to both queries is "true". And if we define a lie, in this case, to have "true" to the second question but "false" to the first, then we conclude there cannot be a lie. Of course if the answer to B is false, we can't predict the answer to A, but that's a separate discussion. Elementary property proof, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stantz Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 (edited) Again, you should read before you buy. Simple concept really. I read the same ******** everyone else did. It's still there on the front page. At what point have I not? "Up to 5 days" means 1-5 days. We are still 6 days out. Perhaps its you who are not comprehending? "Up to five days" means they are actively *********** with us and that's all it means. Edited December 14, 2011 by Stantz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yevon Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 **** Bioware for doing this, this is just insanely unfair. People that pre ordered in December got fooled good, and they are still reeling in more. Again, you should read before you buy. Simple concept really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yevon Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 I think you are. That is your perogative however not really applicable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marek_Arendis Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 You're right man now watch the fanboys eat you. God save you my friend. The biggest pathetic part in this are the fanboys without access defending bioware's/ea's mess. Mess? People are ********...their doing EXACTLY what they said they would do...I don't understand why people are so suprised all of a sudden but I think the key words are " Reading Comprehension" at all the haters of the early access.../facepalm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah_Kerrigan Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 At what point have I not? "Up to 5 days" means 1-5 days. We are still 6 days out. Perhaps its you who are not comprehending? Here's a hint: you can re-view the pages of this thread. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noctivagus Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Again, you should read before you buy. Simple concept really. Did you read all 60 pages of the iTunes EULA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotte Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 You have all the tools available to find out. This is OLD news. I'm not a newsboard. Hmm, actually I wanted to ignore your posts henceforth and let you have your way, but I think its remarkable that everytime when you claim something and are asked to share more sources or information on that, you get out the "tools" argument. I'm beginning to see a pattern here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xerolyfe Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Hardly? You're new around MMOs, aren't you? Yeah. He must be new. All veteran MMO players know that early access is the main selling point to anything. If they sold early access to Star Trek Online that game would be huge. Oh, wait, they did... and it's a big stinking piece of crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash-X Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 You have all the tools available to find out. This is OLD news. I'm not a newsboard. Lol, I've been following every tweet and dev post bro. They never said anything resembling that they needed to stagger the game over 7 days to have a smooth launch. They have been vague about everything all they ever said was that they will stagger the launch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boobaffet Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 As long as its beetween 1 and 5 day its ''up to five day''. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtman Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Must not realize that "up to" does not mean that you get it that just means it is the maximum you may recieve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ergonaut Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Lol, I've been following every tweet and dev post bro. They never said anything resembling that they needed to stagger the game over 7 days to have a smooth launch. They have been vague about everything all they ever said was that they will stagger the launch. EXACTLY. When do people realise this? They have been vague and they still are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ergonaut Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 This made me lol. He was talking about the fact that you can't read not spell. LOL you can't read. How did I EVER refer to that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash-X Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 EXACTLY. When do people realise this? They have been vague and they still are. They are with everything and it gets annoying quite frankly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah_Kerrigan Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Let me describe you some elementary set theory. Let frame the statement "Up to 5" as "Belongs to set A" where set A={0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5}. If set B, where B= {0, 1, 2, 3}, is a subset of A (which, of course, it is), then by the transitive relation of subsets to sets (transitivity is usually an innate property to such relations, you can pick up any textbook on the subject for proof), any subset of B is also a subset of A. If the answer to the question "Belongs to set B" (which translates to "Up to 3") is "true", then the answer to the first question "Belongs to set A" must also be true. Therefore, if you are given any # corresponding to an element of set B, you are also given a # in set A. Which means if you do get 3, the answer to both queries is "true". And if we define a lie, in this case, to have "true" to the second question but "false" to the first, then we conclude there cannot be a lie. Of course if the answer to B is false, we can't predict the answer to A, but that's a separate discussion. Elementary property proof, really. I'm sure you wanted to point out something but you're all "if" and made-up theories. We're past that stage, I'm afraid. Now we're all about facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ergonaut Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 I'm sure you wanted to point out something but you're all "if" and made-up theories. We're past that stage, I'm afraid. Now we're all about facts. Would be nice to get some facts about the game I paid for instead of "Cant talk right now, but will let you know when I know." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah_Kerrigan Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Lol, I've been following every tweet and dev post bro. They never said anything resembling that they needed to stagger the game over 7 days to have a smooth launch. They have been vague about everything all they ever said was that they will stagger the launch. THANK YOU. You understand! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stantz Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Would be nice to get some facts about the game I paid for instead of "Cant talk right now, but will let you know when I know." QFT , everything about this launch seems specially designed to piss people off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xerolyfe Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 (edited) I'm sure you wanted to point out something but you're all "if" and made-up theories. We're past that stage, I'm afraid. Now we're all about facts. LOL at referring to proven mathematical properties as "made-up theories." I got a laugh. Edited December 14, 2011 by Xerolyfe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah_Kerrigan Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Again, you should read before you buy. Simple concept really. You still don't get it. A person who purchases the game today will not get "up to 5 days" He'll get up to "3 days" at most. This is a fact in corresponding to BioWare's plan about a "smooth launch" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashtonx Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 i'd like to mention no one from bioware made any announcments since they've left to get some sleep, heck yesterday they were talking around this time. So what are they doing ? Is it discussion about how to deal with fallout they created ? or are they just too lazy ? While the latter sounds idiotic i also realize they didn't say anything to community since last wave yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobuffet Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 I am altering the deal. Pray I don't alter it any further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah_Kerrigan Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 I don't agree with anything Sarah is saying but LOL at the guy referring to proven mathetical properties as "made-up theories." I got a laugh. Oh, and global warming is a hoax, bro. Keep on keepin' on. Mathematical theories* not properties. There's a slight difference. You don't have to agree with anything I've said so far, but I haven't even come to the part where I state my own opinion yet. It's been all common sense thus far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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