catchdeathwalker Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 Here is my respec cost so far... 1st = Free2nd = 500 credits3rd = 1800 credits4th = 21500 credits5th = 99800 credits6th = 141,000 credits So what is wrong with this picture? not only does it have horrible scaling, but its a rediculous price as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grubman Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 If I recall correctly, keeping the same spec for more than a week resets the respec cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvanSnowWolf Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 If I recall correctly, keeping the same spec for more than a week resets the respec cost. True story. Don't respec more than once every 7 days and you will never pay a dime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catchdeathwalker Posted January 2, 2012 Author Share Posted January 2, 2012 True story. Don't respec more than once every 7 days and you will never pay a dime. Really? I don't think that's working as intended then. My friend told me that too and he tried that and still cost him a fair amount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warlocc Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 Really? I don't think that's working as intended then. My friend told me that too and he tried that and still cost him a fair amount. My cousin's brother's dog knows a cat that belongs to a BioWare employee, and he told me this one thing once, so it must be true... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lesharpeye Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 ok but why did u respec like 5 times..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diegles Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 When I respecced last it costed me 25750 credits, but after I pressed OK it said "7 days has passed respec costs 0". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenoshark Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 ok but why did u respec like 5 times..... This guy totally get it, everyone. The first spec you use is obviously the best and there should not be any leniancy for trying new, lesser specs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBfan Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 (edited) nm i googled it Edited January 2, 2012 by TBfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitewolfe Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 The cost is working as intended. BW intention is to make it where respecing over and over again is prohibitive. The more you abuse respecs the more it punishes you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vargfan Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 Im sage myself, questiong as telekinetics but wanted to do some FPs as healer. The only thing this will do, is that less people will be healers and tanks :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catchdeathwalker Posted January 2, 2012 Author Share Posted January 2, 2012 Im sage myself, questiong as telekinetics but wanted to do some FPs as healer. The only thing this will do, is that less people will be healers and tanks :/ Exactly, that is why I am wondering why the price is so steep. I can see it maxing out at like 50k or something, but over 100k! Thats insane! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathDeathDie Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 There's a simple answer to the question of why people are respecing so much and I say it almost on a daily basis in guild chat and while looking for a healer for flashpoints. The problem is what people would solo as is not what people would play in a group as. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanguar Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 There's a simple answer to the question of why people are respecing so much and I say it almost on a daily basis in guild chat and while looking for a healer for flashpoints. The problem is what people would solo as is not what people would play in a group as. i'm speced as a tank... and gues what? i can still solo quest without problem, so tell me why i need to respec for solo content ad group content? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idrug Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 i'm speced as a tank... and gues what? i can still solo quest without problem, so tell me why i need to respec for solo content ad group content? cause u will clear them easier and faster... I'm a sin... I quested till 50 as a dps... and once at the cap respecced tank and now I play full time tank in both pvp and pve... while leveling once I had to repesc tank to bring some guild's frind into an instance (bording party and forge) than I tried questing as a tank... i could do it... but as a Dps it was easier and I went much faster so I respecced dps and told my guild that they had to find a different tank until I reached 50 due to the incrising respec cos... once hit 50 I tried out a few variation of my tank spec that I stuidied over and over at the 3d resepc i found the one that I'm actually using and find good... but I'm sure that there is probably some other thing I can change... also... as said I tank in both pvp and pve... and there are abilities that are gold in pvp but useless in pve and the other way... (example the hunted dream that make wirwind instant cast + 2 sec stun... is gold in pvp but in pve an instant 8 sec mezz that heal the target is pretty useless when other have a 1 min mezz to use without point spent) so I had to make compromise and now I have a spec that goes "well" in both pve and pvp but isn't the best I could came up for any of those... If respec cost was capped at say 50000 credit I will probably use my pvp tank spec and respec every time my guild will ride... while actually I have to hope that my Hybrid vpp/pve spec will be enough to tank nightmer mode op... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dhariq Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 Im sage myself, questiong as telekinetics but wanted to do some FPs as healer. The only thing this will do, is that less people will be healers and tanks :/ Perfect. That way we don't get posers who just spec tank because they could not find a real one who actually know what he/she is doing. I am not trolling here, I actually have this oppinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLASSlFlED Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 (edited) Here is my respec cost so far... 1st = Free 2nd = 500 credits 3rd = 1800 credits 4th = 21500 credits 5th = 99800 credits 6th = 141,000 credits So what is wrong with this picture? not only does it have horrible scaling, but its a rediculous price as well. 3rd for me cost 1.2k. 4th for me cost 7.4k. 5th for me cost 16.7k. Why are you getting absurd numbers? But i agree, this is a reason why we need dual spec.. Edited January 2, 2012 by CLASSlFlED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eroscastaldi Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 dual spec forever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vassik Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 3rd for me cost 1.2k. 4th for me cost 7.4k. 5th for me cost 16.7k. Why are you getting absurd numbers? But i agree, this is a reason why we need dual spec.. His numbers aren't absurd. They're what I've paid this past weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedwyn-LotD Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 To give an idea of the change:2->3: 3.6x3->4: 11.9x4->5: 4.64x5->6: 1.41x Also, I do believe respec cost is level and point based. If you are level 30 and have 21 points spent, your respec cost is different than being level 50 and 41 points spent. Regardless, the change in respec tiers is neither linear nor represents anything one would consider 'fair'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgeknight Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 i'm speced as a tank... and gues what? i can still solo quest without problem, so tell me why i need to respec for solo content ad group content? Congrats, this issue isn't about you (like most things in life). But healers are being unfairly punished by this along with other factors. If you want to do hardmodes, you need to spec fully into healing. Then when you want to solo your dailies, you need to spec back to something more survivable because the tanking companions are terrible even with a fully upgraded kit. So it's not unusual for healers to want/need to respec twice a day or more (before and after flashpoints). And this isn't unusual behavior... this has how it's been for healers in every game so I'm not sure why it was overlooked so badly by the bioware folks. Since they seem to be reluctant to implement dual specs, they should at least cap the respec cost to something far more reasonable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saberswift Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 (edited) The cost is working as intended. BW intention is to make it where respecing over and over again is prohibitive. The more you abuse respecs the more it punishes you! I would like to direct you to this thread http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=75202 Please pay attention to the quoted dev post in the first reply (I will paste the text in quotes just in case people are lazy "Originally Posted by GeorgZoeller Hey, Been a while since I posted, as you can imagine, we're a bit busy right now. However, we're still actively monitoring the forums and venues of player feedback, collecting information helpful to prioritize the feature development, issues, etc. On the topic of skill respecs, we are aware that it is a popular request to have more versatility in how and when to respec (which includes questions of cost) and we've already decided to pursue the idea of more readily available respecs for players. Pricing changes are also very much under consideration. Just so you understand my position on the topic: I don't think skill respec should be rare or handled very restrictively. I'm actually all for players experimenting with different skill sets once they have a good grip of their character. I don't want people to respec in the middle of combat or in between defeats in a Warzone or Operation, but other than that, I think respec is a positive thing for the game. If we find that the current pricing is too prohibitive for somewhat experienced players, we'll make adjustments. regards -- Georg" The semi-constant respeccing and or tweaking of talent trees is something that is used in many games, and without a dual spec of any sort I believe it is very valuable that respec costs are cheap. More importantly as this is a new game people are A) unsure of what role they would like to perform as they are experiencing the game for the first time B) may not know how to correctly maximize their spec (which is even more difficult without combat logs but that is another 100 page thread somewhere else) C) May not know which role their friends/guild would like them to perform and lastly D) Certain encounters may require different compositions where a dual spec or a cheap respec is very helpful. I see no legitimate reason for respec costs to go through the roof, if some players don't like respeccing all the time or min/maxing they should just not respec....let those that want to experiment experiment. Semi-rant over. [Edit]: date on the dev post for those who were wondering 12.23.2011 Edited January 2, 2012 by Saberswift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roycerson Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 The last MMO I played more than briefly gave 2 full character resets. In ten years. I thought the pricelist was reasonable even before I saw that it resets in a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Flin_ Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 i'm speced as a tank... and gues what? i can still solo quest without problem, so tell me why i need to respec for solo content ad group content? Well, this is the public test server forum, so tell me, how should one test stuff when one has to grind money to do so? Respeccing on the Test Server should be free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littleming Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 (edited) Congrats, this issue isn't about you (like most things in life). But healers are being unfairly punished by this along with other factors. If you want to do hardmodes, you need to spec fully into healing. Then when you want to solo your dailies, you need to spec back to something more survivable because the tanking companions are terrible even with a fully upgraded kit. So it's not unusual for healers to want/need to respec twice a day or more (before and after flashpoints). And this isn't unusual behavior... this has how it's been for healers in every game so I'm not sure why it was overlooked so badly by the bioware folks. Since they seem to be reluctant to implement dual specs, they should at least cap the respec cost to something far more reasonable. I leveled as a healer all the way to 50. I don't agree with your assessment that we're being punished. In fact I found it easier to level as a healer than as DPS, because having a tank companion made even the hardest quests a cake walk. Sure, things took maybe 5 seconds more to die, but our DPS isn't horrible and we're able to survive much tougher battles than non-healer classes and even tanks. While I would love a dual spec, I see no reason, or basis for your complaint that healers are 'unfairly punished.' Especially considering the fact that in both PVP and PVE content they are some of, if not the, toughest classes in the game. Edited January 2, 2012 by littleming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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