Pretty much exactly this. Though I like the snare us pyro's have already. We are pretty much snaring the target the whole time, save the internal cooldiwn. Which is fair. Plus it works on all our abilities. This can be a problem as when a target is stunned or not chasing you or you simply don't need to snare at the time, it happens. Meaning your snare wont happen when you need it to happen, but I don't know how or if I'd really want tthem to change it too much.

Ok one more. Fixed. No intterupt, no healing debuff, 1 stun every min, no guard, not healing if you are top dps, not taunting, not able to sprint, no aoe stun, not doing BURST. What makes snipers better is that they can BURST a healer down, hitting them for 5k kinda makes it hard to heal through. Slowly ticking someone's life away....not that hard to heal.

i am the best merc dps on my server. end of story. i still can not do what others do. even if you were top dps in a server full of the most awesome players in the world, merc would be useless. the end. believe what you want, just don't be pissed cause people won't bring you. you have nothing to offer that other classes can't do and better. with that i'm done arguing with you cause you're still dreaming. also, i now have a 50 jugg so i will be shelving my useless merc.

You are living in a dream world. You act like healers can't line of site you. Also, you don't have much in the way of burst, meaning, healers can keep up with the damage you are doing. You are lying to yourself, snipers out damage you. Go level a sniper and play it yourself if you think you are better than snipers because of pyro. Either you have unskilled or ungeared snipers if they aren't out dps'ing you. You said: cleanse PT/s DoT's, knockback, mezz, heal. All of which you have no time or heat to do to anyone else but yourself. Again, making us prretty useless. There is NO place in RWZ for a merc non healer bh. Face it.

Who are you talking to? A couple points to your post. Name something a Merc can do that a PT can't do. PT's out damage us. Or at least vanguards. To be honest, they are the only class I don't stand a chance against. No not every class can be the same. However, if we are not top damage (to equally geared people), then what are we? Cause we certainly do not have the ability to do anything except damage. I have all war hero, eliminator set. There is a PT in my guild. He has MAYBE 3 pieces of War Hero, yet he out damages me, and can stay alive ALOT longer than I can. The reason I'm harping on Power Techs is because they are the only class to out dps me in a WZ, on a regular basis. Occasionally a Mara or a Sorc will do more. Edit- I said the above then realized, equally geared/skilled snipers will out dps me everytime. Now with all this said, this is as Pyro. As Arsenal, I can burst someone down quite well if I'm left alone. Get someone on me and I spend my of my time trying to get the guy away from me. Usually, to no avail. While i'm doing this I lose damage. Also, someone can LOS me or interrupt me and screws up my damage as well. And another note, Pyro is able to put these numbers up because they can't get LOS'd like most other ranged classes. Then against melee you can keep them away from you. BUT...good luck trying to bring down any half decent healer solo. No this isn't a solo sport, but what do Mercs bring to the table another class can't do better???

making us equal is still making us less. Even if we put as much damage out as a sniper, we still wouldn't have the utilization they have. If we did as much damage as a power tech, they would still have the ability to guard and we don't. Plus more survivability. This class is THE worst class in the game. We may even heal the same as Sorcs and Ops, but they, again, have more utilization. Worst class in the game and I am really upset. The only thing I can do though, is roll another class and hope I can gear up in time for RWZ's

I haven't read this, just know, everything you do, a Power Tech can do better. Plus they have more utilities. As arsenal, you can do more burst. However, you die the quickest in the game. I have tried to defend this class for a long time. I give up. A Power Tech with the same spec as you will do more damage and survive a lot longer. There's no reason for a rated WZ team to bring you over any other dps class. You can't even do more damage than a sniper and a sniper has more stuns and knockbacks and other fun stuff. I'm so over this class.

TLDR everything. I did read most. I will read more later. However, you CAN NOT base your effective-ness on overall numbers. There are way too manythings to consider. Are you doing objectives and the other healers not? Is the other team acctually doing the damage required for you to get 600k+ heals? Is the other healer just able to or quicker than you to the heals? Are you being focused and the other healers not? Blah blah. So many factors determine what your overall heals are going to be. One case in point. If the other team only does 1mil damage through the entire WZ, and you have 4 healers, well, if you aren't around the action the ENTIRE time, you aren't gonna get most of those heals. If you all healed the same fights and got to the heals at the same time you would only get 250k heals. BH's have just as good abilities (be it diffrent for diffrent reasons) as all the other healers. You not being able to be intterupted for 12secs is crazy good. Your instant heal while running around shooting your gun (while not HUGE numbers) is, imo, a great dot. (No you can't keep anyone up just spamming Rapid shots, but I know I miss it when I play my op healer). And I'm not saying it's a L2P issue. I'm just saying there are too many factors to compare for overall healing.

I was going to read all 7 pages but then it started turning into a huge novel. I will say this, however. I mostly agree with Assassin. As far as your major role in a TEAM BASED WZ, you are supposed to put out damage. While I think Pyrotech Mercs are for the number lovers, I think Arsenal still has a place (and a better one than Pyro) in WZ. For me, 3k - 4k - 5k - 3k with a ticking dot equals a dead healer or ball carrier for Huttball. This is in Arsenal and I play on The Swiftsure and against pretty well geared premades. If, the healer LoS's you, switch to a dps. Either way you are still putting insane pressure on a healer. I don't think any other class (maybe snipers) put out as much raw damage as an Arsenal BH. Edit: Ok. Just q'd as arsenal, had a mara on me the whole game. Was no fun. On Pyro, i think the numbers are skewed as you don't have to see your target to do damage to them once they have your dots. I may be mistaken, but no other class has the dots we have. So of course you are going to have more overall damage than everyone else. And with dots, healers have time to heal through your dots. But, having dots on everyone makes the healers job a little more difficult. And at the end of the game, pyrotechs do have the most overall damage. And they can solo almost any class - except heals. Edit: But i also agree - we have no interrupt and no root. we have snares if specced. our shield is useless in comparison to everyone else defensive abilities. powertech can do just as much, if not more damage as pyrotech (again skewed because it's not burst). We have one role - damage output. Other classes may not do AS much damage but have way more utility.

Yes, you've finished Chapter 3. It's not the end, its just in 'intermission'.

nvm 5char

PT defenses are far superior to Merc. Plus you can still guard. So essentially, they are more of a tank than Merc. However, you get heals as a Merc, but wasting your heat on healing is kind of a hard to justify. Plus for Merc's to 'Survive' they have to cast a heal. Where as PT is just ... more defensive passively. Merc vs PT 1v1 PT wins everytime. That being said, I always do more overall dmg than a PT in the Pyro Tree. With all that said (hopefully it makes sense, trying to rush through this to go home) Arsenal, i feel, is still the spec you need to go if you go Merc. While your overall damage will be lower and you deaths will be higher, your team NEEDS that burst it puts out. You can't tick for enough damage as pyro to make a healer go...omg a pyro is on me get him off me! Just my $.02 Peace love and hair grease.

Yes, there needs to be improvements. Yes, they are working on it. If, however, you don't like the game and are threatening to leave, can you please go ahead and do so? This way, Bioware can go ahead and merge servers and concentrate on real problems instead of cry babies and their individual problems? Ok, thank you. P.S. Yes, constructive criticism is fine, but giving them an ultimatum on fixing a problem YOU deem necessary, is quite childish. YOU are not the big picture. EVERYONE is the big picture. Regards, DaPorkchop

I don't post too much on the forums, but all these complaints are bugging me. Yes, we are the worst of the pvp as far as utility. I have been struggling deciding what do to. However, i've figured out my role, and I think you guys need to figure out your role as well. Your role is dps. That is it. You NEED to go get the objectives in capture the node, and defend the middle in Hutt ball. Sitting and guarding is not your role and a waste of your abilities. I have TWO pieces of War Hero gear. Only two pieces, yet I out dps everyone when I am on the front lines. Not talking against just pugs either. I am part of a premade and we go against a lot of premades with a lot of war hero gear. I do more dps as pyro than I do as arsenal because I don't have to stand still. However when I am arsenal I do still do the most damage I just die more. More burst equals faster downed targets. It's just not my playstyle. 1v1 sure I can only kill maradaurs. This is not a 1v1 game. Yes you NEED a healer and yes a healer has to work harder to heal you than anyone else. That's his role though. If they are on the healer you have to take them out. If a group was made up of a Jugg, Sorc, Mara, BH and went up against Jugg, Sorc, Mara, Something else, the BH group would win everytime. That's just my .02$ and sorry if i'm all over the place. I'm in class right now and trying to convey my opinion and listen to the lecture at the same time.

It is so hard to que for WZ as a group. Having to invite everyone, then asking everyone to leave que, then que'ing...just to find out one person didn't leave que. Then rinse and repeat til you are all on the same page. I think this can be relieved by just turning off the auto reque if we disable it once. Or...if you could somehow make it so we can stay in our group when we come out and we are requed as a group. K...thanks. Please?

I have no problem with you guys updating frequently to fix misc bugs and balance and what not. My concern is that I (on the weekdays) play those specific hours when the maint happens. Could we get a rotating maint schedule for the unscheduled ones? The one that happens tuesday night is cool, cause thats the maint day. But, for unscheduled can you guys maybe do it at different times each time, so the same people don't get affected every time? I'm pretty sure the aussies get frustrated sometimes too. Just curious. Please?