Dead, A, Flogging, Horse, Are and You... Rearrange the above to form a commonly used phrase, excluding 'and'. Let us face it, if it wasn't Star Wars and (LOL) the creator of KoTOR 1/2 noone would still be playing this game. It is mediocre at best. They lack the resources/ability/foresight/leadership to do what needs to be done. Mergers/Transfers should be in already, instead of some ****** legacy system that noone cares about, they should have made world PvP a viable and interesting alternative to the monotonous "hey guise lets pvpeee... click da box!" It is clear they are simply rolling out planned content as if the game wasn't tanking. Couple that with THE most vague feedback system in the history of MMO development... I like this game, I hope it succeeds. I am just glad I don't get to play most of the time, or else boredom would have had me quit long since.

Premade = four players. Premading is not OP, coordination of those four players is OP. Nerf teamspeak/ventrilo! Or Grow some balls, and, make a team yourself. Let me end by explaining what MMORPG stands for Massively Multiplayer Online Role-Playing Game... Guess why I highlighted the Multiplayer?!

If it is too much for you to bear, feel free to leave and/or not queue for PvP. I am sure you will be greatly missed. Let's say it happens 1 out of 50 games. That is a whopping 2% of your total games you may experience this. GAME BREAKING! Especially with dat 15 minute lockout for AFKing out of Warzones... Oh wait... Let's up the ante a bit and say it happens 10 of 50 times, that is 20% chance. Meaning two out of five games you might see the issue. An average game lasts 15 minutes. You can go 45 minutes without seeing the bug... that does not qualify as game breaking. Butter up, buttercup.

Marauders are actually extremely squishy, minus their cooldowns. Their 99% damage invuln is on a three minute cooldown with their +50% ranged/melee defence and -20% Force/Tech damage bubble being on about the same. Their 30 second retaliatory damage mit + reactive damage drops if you don't hit them for 8 yes eight seconds. That is the duration of one stun + two seconds. The ONLY damage that matters in PvP is spike damage. DoT damage (whilst padding stats) does not kill people. Spike damage is the lord and master of PvP. It is very easy to avoid Marauder/Sentintel spike damage. As they have very little and it required chaining abilities that should not be possible due to cross healing/tauntung/CCing all of which either negate their limited spike or prevent it altogether. I hope this helped clear up any misunderstanding(s) you had about class balance.

Sadly, BioWare cannot balance to compensate for people of weak moral character. If they could give weak minded people a backbone, they would have no need to be in the computer game industry.

1. If you die in two, yes 2 seconds you are dying in 1.5 global cooldowns and are obviously being focused by the entire eight man opposing team. You should probably look at your positioning. 2. You express discontent at the quality of PvP, yet would like them to implement a rated system which would just encourage exploitation of the system you just finished expressing discontent with. I would have to question your logic on that one. 3. "Fun" open world PvP areas, this was called Ilum. Noone liked it because it was open world and had no limits of population cap. It got removed. Also R v R or Realm versus Realm would not really work as it is faction based PvP. I do however like the concept of more world PvP, this is Star Wars after all not hutballZ. 4. This is 100% spot on and must be done immediately. I am sick of having a BM geared Assassin from the "take your chances, roll the dice" RNG era, rotting on Naddist Rebels (possibly the worst server in the history of MMO game play). 5. They had this, it was called Mercenary Commendations... apparantly it was OP and was therefore removed. I, personally would like to see it reinstated. 6. I would love this, sadly this game is only innovative in it's voice overs. It is however a mainstream MMO and will hopefully live long enough to correct it's initial teething problems et al.

Ok, concept is simple. You post your class, along with what situation are you having difficulty with. Then people of the same class who have suggestions, strategies etc. quote your post to reply. /discuss...

No disrespect intended, but, anyone can 1 vs. 2 when they are vs. bads. When you fight players of equal skill (and by skill I mean class knowledge and gear level) you won't be pulling many 2 vs. 1 victories.

James Ohlen... Please get your entire dev team to buy a subscription to World of Trashcraft. Get them to all team up and play Alterac Valley. Then get them to insert this into Ilum, with NPCs (and companions), objectives and make it reset every few hours. Instant WoW slayer of an MMO.

I LOL'd IRL. You should have gone with "The-Mythic(Or whoever reworked Ilum)-team-killing-PvP-and-in-turn-the-game plague" IMHO!

If you cannot win a 2 vs. 1 with a Marauder/Sentinel (And you are geared above 1k Expertise) you are low skilled. What server are you on? I will make a character on it and we can discuss how you can improve your tactics. Infact I would go one step further, if a healer cannot keep a player (who is kiting appropriately) up in a 2 vs. 1 they are a very bad healer. p.s. why do people assume I play this class? For the second time, I play Infiltration Shadow and I have very little problem fighting them. p.p.s. Please, please I am absolutely on the edge of my seat to know which classes cannot beat a Marauder/Sentinel 2 vs. 1?

Then I am sorry, but, I am fairly sure you are bad. Guard = -50% damage; Taunt = -30% damage; CC = -100% damage. If one healer cannot keep someone up 1 vs. 1 in a situation where said person has -80% damage on them for 6 yes SIX seconds... I feel sorry for them. Cross healing has ALWAYS been a problem. People are only now figuring out that stacking Tanks/Healers is the efficient way to PvP.

This game is on it's way to being a 'dead horse' the community (at least active on the forums) is one of the worst I have ever seen in almost ten years of playing MMORPGs. Until now I have never had the experience of people who would rather post ten threads on how some class needs a nerf, instead of three threads on how a class can be countered. I cannot believe this is an example of the same humanity that clawed it's way out of the Dark Ages, through numerous plagues and world wars... only to give up at the sheer atrocity that is class balance in MMORPGs.

Sadly, you are showing your age (no disrespect intended). Streams of bad players are a waste of time. Talented players streaming is a resource to skill-up. Especially in PvP. It is also a medium to ask questions related to higher end content. Yes, 90% of streamers are bad at the game, but, that is why you watch the other 10%.

Sarcasm, the lowest form of wit. I decided to make a thread on the issue in the hopes that if this information was reposted for the millionth time, the average Joe ex-WoW player(s) may actually take the time to read and comprehend it. Do I need to start making instructional videos "How to PvP for Dummies"? I mean I will if it's what it takes to get out of this dogmatic "NERF DAT CLASS CUZ OP MONGO SMASH" mentality that is actually choking this game. If I had $1 for every turret mage I see in this game, I could probably have got my six month subscription + Collectors Edition free.

BH both spec are capable of HIGHER burst damage than ANY spec of Mara/Sent AND they do it from 10m+ yet I don't see QQ about them (yet). This is NOT an OP class issue it is an L2P issue.

Why do you try and bring logic to the forums where Operatives/Scoundrels got nerfed because of their 9 million DPS hits with STACKED CONSUMABLES only to get a better CC lock (the initial complaint was CC'd 100-0) and lower damage? This game will die as long as bads continue to QQ and not l2PewPew. Sad, because this game had potential.

I play Deception Assassin. Well, I actually play Infiltration Shadow because Empire is over populated. Nice try though. Move along. p.s. u mirin' my logic bro?

You mad they aren't all still playing Sorcs/Sages?! Seriously, the biggest problem with this game is the community. It is much easier to cry and get nerfs than learn to play. Did you even bother to realise that two of the Marauders/Sentinel specs can do zero, yes NO damage to you if you sit between 5-8m from them? Their melee is all 0-4m and their charge is 10-30m with only three abilities inside that range. Anyone who has problems surviving against Saber Throw, Force Scream is actually bad at this game. Period. Do you know how you interrupt Master Strike/Ravage? You CC. When you see their six second 99% damage invuln come up... you kite. When you see their retaliation bubble up you don't hit them, you slow and run. It's really not hard, I am nowhere near the best player in game and I have very little difficulty beating these classes. Did you know the most important thing vs. Marauders is your snare? Sorcs/Sages have no reason to EVER lose vs. a Mara/Sent if they aren't purely group spec. If they are purely group spec, then... crazy thought, the group is responsible for doing -80% damage reduction from Guard/Taunt and peeling. Haters gonna hate, but, bads will be bads. This game is SO over simplified a well trained chimp could go rank one. Activate the grey cells and l2p instead of QQing. This is the same community that complained Maras/Sents were underpowered not three months ago. And for anyone who actually read and comprehended the changes to MARA/SENT as a CLASS you realise they gave +15% damage of Master Strike/Ravage it is NOT the class that OP it is the percieved change in EXPERTISE and the reduction in PvP HEALING that is causing the QQ. p.s. if you think this game is fast paced, it is lucky you never played Age of Conan at launch.

Most of what people call "haxxxx" in this game, is actually a result of poor class knowledge, low gear level and general inneptitude. That said, there are some third party programs that still allow you to do things that are otherwise not possible. MagiCarp heals and refreshing cooldowns are not amongst their features, as far as I am aware.

GW2 is pure trash, the first game failed because it had no content updates save almost annual expansions. They took that game, that model and removed 18+ abilities in the interest of "balance" and left you with less than a full row + "epic underwater abilities"... Lawl. I'd rather not. See you guys after the game (probably) flops.

\Wrong. PvP is only a minute part of the community, everyone PvEs. There is nothing drastically wrong with class balance. I predict as soon as you QQing children get one class nerfed you will move on to QQing about the BH/Mando damage. Because none of you understand that whilst Sent/Mara are tough 1 vs. 1 if you let them sit in melee range, you don't HAVE to stand still to fight them. What is causing the mass exodus of this game is the terrible chidlren, who like to QQ and whine because they can't learn to adapt. Much easier to get nerfs. What a sad world the MMO industry is. p.s. Cannot wait for the Panda xpac to clear some of you out.

Press log out, press server selection, press PvP followed by STANDARD or HIGH or even FULL and then click play. It's crazy, you can take responsibility for your own enjoyment! Nah, I didn't think so. I guess you will wait for a multi-million dollar gaming company to do it for you. GL with that, sincerely.

You infuriated bro? Yeah, you do seem mildly infuriated.

I hate to say it, but, get a better ******** internet connection or take it like a man. Be thankful the system works perfectly as is, you don't get a 14252345252335 minute lock out for crashing like your precious WoW. System works perfectly, load too slow and/or crash and you get the boot. Someone else can replace you. You are not penalized. Perfect. Less QQ more Pew Pew