You having a different opinion does not make mine wrong. Opinions are not factually wrong or right, and you trying to label them as such is frankly a bit conceited on your part and also condescending. I personally do not want to be able to choose the maps like a lot of MMOs allow. Being able to seperate the game type, though, would be far more beneficial as a training ground for ranked than 8v8 would be by a large margin. Taking 4v4 out of the queue would not do anything for the queues as people use the regular queues for WZ play. It might take some of the premades out of 8v8 which would increase fun for the casuals while simultaneously giving people an actual training ground for ranked. You are being hilariously naive or intentionally misleading if you believe that 8v8 gives you any significant preperation for ranked arenas strategy and coordination.

I've been playing since early access, I'm aware. Obviously it is part of the regs rotation, or my post would not exist. You are contributing nothing to this suggestion except an attempt to start a pointless argument by stating the obvious. Since the point escaped you, and you apparently did not read, I'll summarize for you: Arena should not be in regs and needs it's own queue to allow people who want to practice for ranked a space for that, while taking arena out of a queue that it should never have been in.

When you queue for Warzones, you queue for that type of format. When you want to queue for Arenas, you queue for Arenas. Suggestion: because of the lockouts for leaving WZs, please allow some sort of selective queueing. If not for maps then at least for game modes. Being forced into 4v4 on a class that is VERY poorly balanced for that type of match with random people with no real MM (solo queue regs) when you are trying to queue for WZs (NOT ARENA) is just a horrible way to force a bad time on players. Move the 4v4 unranked maps to an Unranked Arena option for people who want to practice 4v4 consistently without having to learn in Ranked matches. This will also allow WZ players to stop being forced into 4v4 arena matched in their Warzones queue with a lockout timer of 15 minutes if they choose not to play that mode.

You are making yourself sound like an idiot. Are you not aware that the mechanic of vanish DROPS THEM OUT OF COMBAT? The devs are aware that stealth classes will be able to stealth to drop combat and swap out gear. It has been that way since launch. It is not an exploit so stop crying about it. If you think it is broken, then state state that opinion instead of crying "exploit" where there is none. The only way to fix this would be to put a cooldown on tactical item swaps. This would screw with PVE players, though. You might just have to suck it up and deal with it. Learn how to break combat on YOUR class if you feel you need to swap tacticals mid-WZ.

Has there yet been an opportunity for Hatred sins to test the new builds/items? I am very curious if Hatred (mainly for PVP) is going to be in a better or worse place than it currently is on live. Thanks in advance for any feedback all of you testers can provide!

Just curious, what is the DPS difference between a Hatred Assassin and Madness Sorcerer? Does anything make one more desirable over another in PVE content? Just curious because those are my 2 fav classes and I am thinking about finally getting into group PVE content in this game.

Hmmm well I managed to be doing quite well with Hatred doing pressure as Kre'a mentioned above. With some help from him and others in the Discord channel, I am loving the spec and the class. So...my dreams are far from crushed

You are way off the mark. Did you even read my first post? "What classes do you feel are best at taking out key targets such as a tank or a healer?" That is literally the question. Not all-rounder DPS. Please stop trying to de-rail my thread. To everyone else: Thank you so much for the inputs!

You stated that you can solo a Sorc or Merc healer on your Jugg. What spec is your Jugg that enables you to do this?

So I decided to main this class because I wanted to use ambush tactics to take out healers/snipers etc (the important targets). Which of the specs for Assassin will let me do this the best? I've been playing with all three so am pretty familiar with the skills but am still learning and am curious which one will have the best performance for what I want to do once I fully get the hang of it and the gear.

Never asked you to generalize. As the question was in this post, then it was still regarding the original questions which is taking out key targets in PvP. I was hoping that Deception would be on that list because when I play mine, it feels really bursty. So far I am getting Sniper, Carnage Mara for killing healers and/or tanks. Someone suggested Lightning but I already know that Lightning is more of a pressure spec and will not move a competent healer's health bar without significant help from a bursty class. I am enjoying seeing the different perspectives. I look forward to more people sharing ^_^.

Is Deception Assassin last-place among the DPS in PvP or something? I would have thought their burst would net them somewhere in the listing but not one person has mentioned them yet.

I appreciate the responses! Some of you, however, are answering a question I didn't ask. I don't care about a class being "noob friendly" or easy, just capability to take out key targets (again, mostly healers/tanks/snipers etc) when played correctly. Again, thank you to everyone who took the time to respond.

Hey guys!! Was curious what the PVP community thinks of this. What classes do you feel are best at taking out key targets such as a tank or a healer? From best to worst: Rank what class/spec/build you think are best for this job! (Top 3?) 1) 2) 3) Looking forward to hearing what everything thinks about this!

There's a name for people who call other sentient, intelligent races beasts simply because they are not a culturally advanced or because of their chosen appearance.

There is proof aplenty if they bothered to ever check the livestreams of the people who regularly promote the game through Twitch. Every time ANY of them get a huttball match of any variety, there is desync all over the place. Just find a pvp streamer and look at the vods.

Desync for my entire team? That's a bit of a stretch over multiple Voidstars in the same night spread out over hours.

I am seeing this regularly in Voidstar. Somehow, operatives and smugglers are managing to plant bombs without being visible the entire time. I can be staring right at the door and not see them and suddenly the bomb is planted. Has happened at least 3 different voidstars tonight, and my entire team was confused how it happened because nobody saw anyone at the door planting.

I know the OP asked about PVE, but could you also weigh in on PvP? Is Deception/Infiltration still viable in PvP?

Would you mind sharing that build for someone like me who has not played in a VERY long time? (2+ years)

So does that mean that a DPS Guardian can compete well with Sentinels this expansion/patch? The reason I am asking is because it used to be go Sentinel/Marauder or go home. Unless it was Huttball, many teams did not want to take a Guardian/Jugg unless they were tank spec/build. I am trying to see if this has changed. I do not wish to tank, but I like the style/flow of the Vigilance build from my old character. If I will be running into the "spec tank or re-roll Sentinel/Marauder" mentality again due to class performance, I would rather just start out as a Sentinel/Marauder from the start and save myself the hassle.

Like the title says, I am trying to compare DPS Guardian vs Sentinel for PvP. Does one really shine more than the other overall? Is one highly desired in groups with the other is not? I am still getting a feel for how things are int he game at the moment after a very long time away. Thanks!

Ignore the e-thugs and ignorant individuals who only like to flame others instead of help. Like someone said above, you are looking for a stealth class most likely unless you want to go with a tank-spec Jugg or Guardian. Even then you want a healer, so I suggest a stealth class. Assassin/Shadow or Operative/Scoundrel seem to be the ones that will work best for you. You will have to learn when to hit and when to dissapear, but they are worth it. WIth Assassin/Shadow you can choose from 1 tank or 2 DPS spec (I recommend Deception/Infiltration if you choose DPS). With Operative/Scoundrel you have 1 heal or 2 DPS specs (I prefer Concealment/Scrapper but the other DPS spec has its place too). That will net you with a lot of killing blows and the ability to escape if you chose your fight poorly.

With the recent balancing patches, I was wondering if there have been changes to everyones views about which class(es) are best at taking out a healer?

"Infiltration Planning a coordinated attack from a position of stealth and striking at the most opportune of times, the Infiltration Shadow is a master of surprise. By adopting special Force techniques, the Shadow's attacks can become even more effective, building to a powerful crescendo that the opposition won't even see coming." Looks like BioWare contradicts your opinion on what Infiltration/Deception is designed to do. That looks pretty clear to me that it is intended to be an ambush class that sets up a massive burst combo. That is what it was always able to do before the nerf. Open, set up, burst, get out. Rinse, repeat. It is sad that BioWare is making it impossible for the spec to do what they themselves have stated it is for.