Yeah, the pre-mades are pretty bad, and it's a lot of them. I know tons of people are doing pre-mades because we always come up short even though it's tons of people queing. I like the ldea of pre-mades going against other pre-mades, it would really solve this problem, and I know it can be done. Some of the pre-mades are not really that good, and a lot of them get into pride fights, so they can be lured off objective very easily. On my vanguard I always pick on the top dps and usually have 3 or 4 people chasing me off into a corner somewhere, and they always fall for it. I call it the wounded rabbit technique, people will always go for the kill and chase you no matter what. Sometimes I do get smart people that will turn around. But if you're lucky you might even get their healer to follow them also. Just designate someone to be bait, they'll fall for for 90% of the time, they gotta get their badges, but the objective is to win.