"PFT is easily countered by stuns. Wow! Really, so is the big Pyro Burst" - The big difference here is that the pyros RS will still be available when the stun wears off, the PFT wont. So its more like a dps delay then a dps loss ;P "This is the same argument I use with PFT, and yet you state that PFT is easily countered. TD and PFT are countered the same way." - No, I said easier to counter then a RS proc. Mostly because the RS is instant cast vs PFT`s channeled cast. And if the PFT gets interrupted somehow, you need to start all over. RS will still be available when stun wears off. It was also meant as a counter on your "people that dont do this and that are bad players." "I am sorry what? If people are going to complain about AP being difficult because you have to channel it, than why can't I complain about having to monitor heat. It's the same complaint." - You say, "If you play Pyro it’s because you do a better job of watching yourself than you do your environment." meaning what? that pyros dont watch their surroundings? I do not have any problems keeping control of my heat and my surroundings. "You can't claim AP is bad for reasons that when applied to Pyro, you consider questionable." - I dont know if this were meant for me specific, or in general. Not once did I claim that AP was a bad specc, in fact I said I enjoy it. So were does all this rage come from ? AGAIN, I do NOT think AP is a bad specc.

"AP hits harder on every single one of it’s hits than Pyro does" what abilities? The two builds focuses different abilities. AP - FB, IMM and PFT. Pyro - TD and RS procs. I don't see how you can say that AP hits harder on every single hit? AP - Pyro IMM < TD FB > FB RS < RS RP > RP PFT is really good if you get all ticks off. But it has a longer cool down, and its easier to counter than a RS proc "Pyro does 9 seconds of crap damage followed by RNG loving hard hitting damage back to crap." -huh?? "Yeah if anyone doesn’t pop shield or stun you with TD on them, than they are a bad player" - In 1v1 with all cc´s available, yes. in a group vs group, not that easy. "If you play Pyro it’s because you do a better job of watching yourself than you do your environment." - It´s rally not that hard... Don't ruin your reputation by trash talk For the record, I enjoy both the NORSE and the full pyro specc=)

ok, good to know...

Agree. BUT rail shot need a dot on target, force shroud removes all As a PT pyro, 1on1 vs a good tankasin hybrid in dps gear, makes me wanna throw my computer out the window =)

It sounds like PT pyros are immune to stun, knock backs, root etc. And that they have unlimited resources, three shooting everything around them... YES, the burst of a pyro can be good. But its pretty much the only advantage a PT pyro have over other classes, and we can't use TD - IM - RS - RP - RS on every target cuz of heat management and cooldowns.

If i doesn't work, I´ll send you the bill

7k+ single hit? really?

yup, forgot to mention that! thanks =)

It´s a set bonus, not a build. You get it from the pve armor, it gives you 18sec energy shield instead of 12sec. You can use it with any build.