Think they care anymore? lol

The issue with premades is that as the average player skill deteriorates to unheard of levels having 4 average pvpers together on the same team would be broken.

Yeah when I came back I was surprised how nowadays everybody has roots/slows.

Is it just me or does no side quest npc ever make any class specific comment for smugglers? NPCs/questgivers acknowledge every class but the smuggler. On my other toons they always say something extra for each class (both jedi and sith classes are lumped together though). Like "Thank god the jedi is here...... We have a job for you", "It's an honor to meet Havoc squad.... We have a job for you". For smuggler it's just "We have a job for you".

I mean at this point with the pvp playerbase skill level at new lows I'm just happy if people know how to use cc

You'd be surprised at how often this happens. Very few people actually play huttball instead of dming in mid and so it just comes down to a few players that care. As an op main, I've had 6-0 wins where I didn't even die and literally nobody but me touched the huttball. I get it> kite the 0-2 players that actually try> score> get it> kite the 0-2 players that actually try> score and so on. I love when I'm almost in the end zone and enemy players respawn and just run right past me, not even a token attempt to stop it.

The population isn't exactly in a good spot, you can't ban them simply because any pop reduction in any aspect of the game would be crippling.

The turnover is high enough that the average in skill has gone in the toilet compared to even a few years ago. It's really not surprising that people struggle with even the little mechanics in huttball.

Yeah it's gotten pretty ridiculous. While some classes have root breaks with low cd others don't, not to mention almost constant slows. After coming back after a long hiatus it's sad to see the pace of gameplay has somehow managed to slow down even further.

Yeah I don't think it's possible to differentiate enough. Would be nice though, connection stability leaves a lot to be desired. Never been dc'd on any game even 1/10th the amount that I do on swtor.

As somebody who plays in pvp toggled instances there are way too few people to make much of a difference and a pvp focused expansion wouldn't go well as too few people who end up enjoying it. Further still, with the future of the game in a precarious spot, they really don't have any option besides playing it safe (pve focused).

Wait you guys play stuff besides arena? Amazing

Ah gotcha, thanks. Saw some people saying that but wasn't 100% sure if it was from a skank tank perspective or just pure tank with decent damage.

Couldn't find all that much updated info about skank tanks for pvp. Used to have a darkness sin with dps gear that I did well with. But that was years ago and I don't know if something changed.

Yes in pvp vanguard/powertech is not in a good spot, if left alone you can do massive amounts of damage but are incredibly squishy. As this has been the case for awhile now, any pvper worth anything will focus you down quite quickly. As far as pvp tanking goes you are behind sin/shadow by alot and a bit behind jugg/guardian. Skill floor is very high.

I agree that they never were ranged tanks but in all fairness Bioware does advertise them as "Ranged Tank, Ranged Damage, Close-Quarters Damage" as seen here on the main website.

Her dedication is truly inspiring, I'd never have the patience to keep updated with everything for as long as she has. Thank you for all you do! Chances are she has helped literally everyone who has ever played SWTOR at least once through her site.

As a player who mains a sin tank in dps gear I kind of see where he is coming from but not if the guy was focused. I usually use guard all the time, but if the dps on my team do significantly less dps than I do AND they are not getting focused then it's a little harder to justify guarding. If I see a guy who isn't getting focused, putting out horrible dps, and survives longer than I do, he most likely will not be getting my guard unless we have a healer and I guard swap. This is of course only applicable if the utility of a tank is not needed ie huttball, team with healers etc. As far as the OP, I taunt pretty much on cd on any character who has a taunt regardless of tank or dps spec. Also you can't have more than half the team guarding anyway even if they are all tanks. But it sounds like none of the tanks were using taunts at all.

At one point in an arena I knocked a sorc back at the same time he knocked me back and I was launched about 50m and around 30m into the air until I hit the invisible barrier in the corner and died due to fall damage.

I completely agree pikes would be awesome.

Yeah I know, I was trying to say that if they didn't want to use LS for the sake of role play, then it is possible. Regardless of accuracy it's unlikely that LS will be a significant DPS increase compared to spamming FL. It may be a slight DPS increase if the rotation is optimized, but if you are willing to take a slight DPS loss for role play then it is plausible, not optimal but at least plausible. EDIT: Yeah my previous post was pretty bad. It was a Sunday morning what did you expect.

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=852505

Like everyone else said at earlier levels lightning is definitely easier what with chain lightning, force storm with utility for 25% damage which then can proc an insta cast chain lighning again and AOE is very nice. Madness DOT spread is better at later levels because you can dot and spread and then usually just mop up or even with all weak mobs you can just forget about them and they'll die pretty quickly with the dots.

Well I too had a token in the unclaimed items but it was there the whole time so I was able to use it. Whether I actually get a 60 haven't tried. Did you lose the unclaimed token when they pulled it from CM? Or did you use it and never get the unlock?

You didn't actually read the thread either, BW never warned us about anything until after it was bugged for at least a week.