Great, yet another I hate Koth/Quinn thread. Don't we have more than enough of those already? I'm sorry but I disagree with you there. You have every right to dislike or hate any characters, but I can't agree with you on the fact that Koth fails as a character. Same with Quinn. Having your own agendas, and not following out of blind obedience every step the player makes doesn't make you a failed character. For me, that's what makes things interesting. Tora's reason to keep following you despite Koth leaving didn't made me thing better of her, in the contrary, seeing how easily she dropped Koth despite their past ties made me question her loyalty. She does state that it's better with you because you can provide toys and credits. Mainly credits. It doesn't make her a failed character either, just one that I wouldn't trust. At least, Koth fight for ideals, and won't betray you for money, only if you betray what matters to him, what he's fighting for. I can totally understand that, and in a way I admire that more than someone who has no ideas of its own, or doesn't fight for what he thinks is right. Isn't that what we are doing mostly? Fighting against anyone who is against us, and our goal, our vision?

What you're saying seems to be true. I've flirted with Koth every time I could with my BH, and played up to the cantina scene. I got the flirting option, but got interrupted by real life, escaped the scene and logged off. Next day, I go back to my toon, start the cantina scene, and guess what? No flirt option available! Reseting did nothing... Granted it was not such a big deal since my BH was going back to Torian anyway, but still. I've also played a SW who accepted Valkoryon's power and lied to Lana, but still could romance her without an issue. And I played him without any interruption from chapter 1 to 9. Next time, I won't disconnect until I'm sure that my LI are locked in by the game.

You're right, I've used the wrong term. It was 5 packs of each. But when I consider that these 10 crates are worth 1900 cartel coins, which is worth around 15 euros, and the worthless content I got for it, hypercrates or not, it was just clearly not worth it. I'm not arguing that chance cubes are worst than what we had before, I'm arguing that I'd like to have a way to either choose the items I want and stop the randomness nonsense that both the crates and the chance cube feature; or to at least have a better drop ratio that could allow me to get a better chance of getting what I really want, or to at least buy the items I wanted by selling the items I've got. I won't buy another crate until one of these things happen. That's all.

I support this as well, it's been unfinished on my log for ages!

/signed I haven't bought an hypercrate in ages, and the whole chance cube business was not enticing me to do it again. But after hearing some favorable reviews I figured I'd give it a try. I bought 5 hypercrates of the revenge pack and 5 of the visionary pack for 1900 cartel coins. The result ? Highly disappointing. - 4 armors sets : only one is full and 2 are supplementary... Plus none of these are either the ones I was looking to get, or highly sought for in the cartel market. - 2 mounts, 4 crystal, an emote and a title: none of these are either the ones I was looking to get, or highly sought for in the cartel market, and 4 crystal, really? What am I supposed to do with that? - A bunch of stronghold decorations I might use if I can't find a way to make a little bit of profit with it - Some gifts I would have easily gotten in just a few companion missions. - Some scrap Not only I haven't had anything of the stuff that I was looking forward to get, but selling the content of what I've got wont cover the price I would have to pay to get some of them in the GTN. Most of it is of very low value and won't sell well. I can understand not getting the things you want from 1 hypercrates, but from 10? I'll never buy an hypercrate ever again unless at least the rate drop is increased or I can choose the content I want.

/signed obviously. Can I sign for more companion interactions? What's the point of having so many companions if they're here just to look pretty and are almost interchangeable? I'd take fewer companions with better interactions anyday...

Couldn't agree with this more! I've yet to find enough time to play this new chapter and the lack of romance acknowledgment doesn't entice me to do it that much. I've come to a point where I'm no longer expecting anything when it comes to romances. In fact, I'm expecting it to get even worse, because if they can't do it now, with only 7 romanceable companions (Theron, Lana, Koth, Jorgan, Kaliyo, Vette, Torian), how will they handle it when all the romanceable companions will be back? I fear that a nice reunion and some letters will be all we have to look forward to here. I could go further and say that any kind of companion interaction besides the ones the chapter is focused on are really really lacking. We have so many companions, more and more each chapter, and yet they seem less like companions, and more like gameplay features, or some cosmetic toon. I'd rather have less companions and have them matter more. I miss the small crew I had with my class story, and talking to them after the missions. They didn't have that much interactions, but this was still way better than now.

I'm curious, I saw the break-up scene for Lana/Theron/Koth when you rekindle your romance with Jorgan. Is that the same scene you got with Kalyio, or Vette? Or is there some differences? 'm also kind of worried that things might change and that I may not get the opportunity to rekindle Torian romance if I confirm the romance with Theron in chapter 9.

Will do, thanks

That's a great news, thanks I'm currently on the Red Eclipse and it's a bit too populated for me. I'm thinking of moving to a server where I can be almost on my own most of the time? Does anyone knows of one?

I am someone who romanced all of them, and I totally agree that all romances lacks content after chapter 9. But Lana already has had the most amount of the three out there by far: * Koth: present in Kotfe from chapter 2 or 3 to 9, with less romance content but that make sense since you have no previous history with him so you have to get to know him first. Nothing before and nothing after. * Lana: SOR and she's with you every step of the way in Kotfe from chapter 2 to 9. Nothing after. * Theron: SOR and pops up in Kotfe in a late chapter to rekindle the romance at the end of it, and that's about it. He was the male equivalent of Lana in SOR, but this ceased to be true in Kotfe where he is forgotten until very late, and even there the content is minimal. Nothing after.

Same here: Theron > Koth > Lana Theron is a nice blend of awkward, confident and sweet, with a great story to boot and I only wished he was a little more present so that he could benefit from a little bit more character development. Koth is fun, and one reason why I like him a lot is probably why people dislike him so much. He has a different past, a different background. He's not afraid of disagreeing with you, and is not mindlessly following you. He even dare questioning you, so awful and whiny of him right But I admit that when I see all the hate thrown at him, even from people from Bioware even if it's done for fun and not to be taken seriously, I'm a bit afraid that his content - and romance- might be ditched unless it's about killing him horribly. The entire stream last night was a rallying cry around hating Koth after all ... Lana is... Well, I do like her, but I honestly grew a bit tired of her, mainly because she's a bit overused and feels like a writer's pet, like Liara in Mass Effect. There are so many cool and awesome characters that are underused right now. What would be awesome would be having all the romance characters with as much content as she has, but this is never going to happen, so I'd rather see them get some story development than her.

Why? Why is it necessary to exclude everyone else? The country right across the river from mine is eligible, mine isn't... kinda sad, you know. I concur with you on that! Once more, I'm getting ripped off from any potential reward just because I'm from France... Awesome I know that it"s legal limitations but I have a hard time accepting that there's no way against that if there was a real will. I definitely feel undervalued

For those interested, my trooper video is up on youtube, here. The lines start around 24:00, the alternate version is right after.

I have a trooper who romances Jorgan ready to start episode 12, but I can't seem to get this special line