Wasn't there talk of a new Yavin Warzone? Isn't that the reason we got those temporary bars? There was also a Rishii Arena too that nobody was excited about but I'd take anything.

Title says it all... where is the hotfix. If PVE was messed up we would be having one tonight... I need my Hutball

Where is my Huttball. I need a hotfix asap.

I like your suggestions a lot. Just add 8's for ranked with it and cross server and PVP is fixed.

So, for the DoT to spread the very first target has to have corrosive dart to apply to the rest? And why a cone? Why not an AoE like Death Field or something?

Carbine Burst tool tip says that it spreads corrosive dart to all targets as long as 1 target that is hit is affected by corrosive dart.... NOT WORKING. Haven't seen it yet. Has anyone? Tried in both PvP and PvE. I know I need to update my sig....

Can't imagine any spec not putting 7 points in Corruption tree to get Fadeout if you are a PvPer. I can't live without it.

Public Enemies queued for team ranked last night on POT5 around 10pm EST... got nada. We waited around for about 45 minutes or so and finally went to Reg WZ out of boredom. So, I think you are right sir.

1. I want to keep this thread on the first page because it's a solid guide 2. I want to know if there is a consensus on going full tank gear with ST vs full tank gear and AP tree in WZ and RWZ. Thanks in advance.

This would work.

Stop playing concealment until the new defensive buffs come out would be my suggestion. I play all 3 trees and the 2 dps trees are underwhelming at this time.

It's a bug. The other team still can see it! I thought it didn't work and then I got a reply back from the other side responding to it so even though you didn't see it on your chat, it is seen on their side. Caught me off guard, lol The reply was funny.

Another obvious troll thread. Anybody who just says X class is overpowered and provides no facts except 1 leaderboard game is silly. Nice try but don't fall for the shenanigans!

How about this solution as a middle ground.... Corruption can only cleanse it on themselves and not others to give them more survivability to try to heal thru everyone else's DoTs? In addition, remove the Global on Consumption? At least if we are going to kill ourselves for force at least we don't lose a global doing it so we can get another heal off? Is that unreasonable? Thoughts? Suggestions?

Yes we want Corruption to be more viable. It's the least desirable healing spec to play in RWZ. And yes, we don't think Madness is too strong. It's just fine. Top of the leaderboards in Reg WZ and viable in Ranked WZ. There are 24 trees and if this change happened you would still have 23 that could not cleanse your DoT. How does that break your class design? And since you brought up Lethality, why can Operatives cleanse their DoT? How is that not game breaking for that spec?

As a fellow Sorc I can feel your pain when it comes to Force management. I could start a whole new thread about Sorcs having to use Consumption when Operatives can use Adrenaline Probe and Commando/Mercs can Reload without having to kill themselves some. Let me make it clear... I'm not trying to hurt or damage Madness Sins/Sorcs at all. I play a Sorc too, but I don't understand how having a FULL spec'd healer be able to cleanse DoTs be so game breaking.

Way to be constructive and add good value to the thread. I haven't updated my signature but to really blow your mind, I also have a 55 Gunslinger, Commando, and Shadow. Is it possible I have a better perspective than you?

Look, I understand trying real hard to protect your class and make it where only your class has DoT protection. It must really be hard to see annihilation coming with it too. But every other DoT can be purged/cleansed. Either make them all uncleanseable as you mentioned or only full healers with the ability to do so. I didn't see the problem with Sorcs cleaning force DoTs and Op/Mercs cleaning tech DoTs? Isn't that what you are asking for? Wait, I get it... you want your class to be able to both apply DoT's and remove HoT's. A single class doesn't work that way. Different CLASSES are the counters.

The only HoT sorc heals have is called resurgence. I have no problem with a fully spec'd madness sorc to have the ability to remove the HoT from that ability when your DoT is cast. Nice troll too... /endthread

What are you asking for here? Please clarify. Are you suggesting like Madness Crushing Darkness ability removes an Operative HoT probe on the target you are fighting?

To keep this thread on track. YES right here! I am not trying to take away the enjoyment of other DoT classes. Whether you have brought up Annihilation or Madness... I am talking about making ONE tree out of 24 AC trees (that you have to be fully spec'd into) to have a single talented ability to cleanse a FORCE DoT? How is that unreasonable? And on top of that it stops the healer from healing for a global and makes them decide what is priority and if its worth it?

Agree with this guy, I do. 1. Nobody brings a Sorc to competitive Ranked WZ so Madness spec is still viable. Maybe it would make Sorc Healing viable again if cleanse was returned. 2. I'm not suggesting every dps Sorc/Sage have the ability to cleanse Madness DoTs, just FULLY spec'd healers 3. People saying that this is dumbing down healing have it backwards... this change dumbs down dps even more. No skill in just spamming DoTs with out seeing what the other team has. 4. Now Anni/Watchman will have uncleansable DoTs. Again, not sure why TECH damage will be cleansable but not FORCE damage. Another secret nerf to Sorc healing. 5. Even if cleanse came back, I'm still wasting a GCD healing for 300k to remove a DoT instead of healing someone else for 5k+. 6. Bads will be Bads and baddie Sorc healers don't cleanse anyway. In PvP, part of what makes the game fun is situational awareness, different team compositions, knowing what the other specs can do, etc... If you just want to spam your dps abilities then go PvE. Once you learn the boss fights, you can just spam away to you kill it.

Wrong. My Electrodart tooltip says it's a stun. Unstoppable tooltip says it's grants CC immunity. I don't come on here complaining my stun didn't stun because it says so on my tooltip. They need to stop dumbing down this game.

Full Sorc Heals is lazy spec? Either make all DoTs uncleansable or this needs to be fixed. Why even have healers? What is next.... I did 9k crit with Maul but the Sorc healer healed him back for 9k. Nerf Healing? What happened to apply your DoT and if it gets cleansed then reapply it? If you attack someone and they take a health pack, you re-attack them... you don't nerf the health pack.

This makes no sense to me. I know right now Sorcs are the least viable for RWZ. Everyone I know still prefers Operatives and now Merc Healers. Fine W/E. But I don't understand why a fully spec'd Sorc Healer can't cleanse Madness DOTS? It's retarded. I know every sorc gets purge/cleanse so it would be unfair if any dps Sorc/Sage could do it. But that's the point of being a healer (not a hybrid healer) is to keep your teammates alive.... Operatives and Mercs can cleanse TECH DOTS but Sorcs cant clease FORCE DOTS? So Lethality Snipers/Operatives can have their poision removed... PT can have their fire DOTS removed... Now Madness is getting a buff and all we will be seeing is Madness Sorcs and Sins everywhere. The only counter would be for Sorcs to have this ability back in 2.8. Can someone explain the thought process here?