Of course everyone will overlook Jeff's post because most players could not look at it seriously and not feel at least slightly responsible for this design. You, mostly, all play these games like treadmill monkeys anyways, barreling past content in huge swathes at breakneck speed to reach that all important "optimal" number without even really stopping to appreciate and play the games. The metrics I'm sure, of any level based game would support the massive over representation of this play style. Stop being obsessed with with gaining levels as fast as you can, and developers will stop giving them to you faster. The end.

This. Amidst all the complaining that the game is far too easy and streamlined, they introduce some old school MMO camping mechanics (and very forgivable ones) and people start to blow a gasket. If anyone wants to know why MMO's suck, ladies and gentleman, I now present to you, exhibit A. Can we have our genre back now?

Sorry but OP is not telling the truth. If you really were unjustly banned you might be outraged about it, in which case you might make a post here. Or you might just go through the correct channels to get it amended, or you might just not give a damn. Posting here telling everyone that you're laughing about unjustly being banned makes no sense, you want to share the lulz of you being unfairly treated with everyone, or what? Makes no sense if it really doesn't matter to you. There are ulterior motives. OP is more like "hehe I got caught, I kinda wanted to get caught, now I want you guys to catch me too!" Or OP is simply thrilled about cheating and getting away with it, and since he didn't really get away with it, pulling one over on the general players is the next best "thrill". It's not that BW is incapable of making a mistake in banning someone. It's that they simply didn't in this case.

Mudkips?

Rey could never love Kylo, after what he did. Forgive him maybe. There will be no same sex relationships in the trilogy. Rey and Finn's friendship was already well established earlier in the movie. They didn't need to take considerable efforts to highlight the fact Finn saved her.

The longer MMO's are around, the longer these "I hate the game, I'm quitting the game, the game is ruined" posts become. The longer MMO's are around the more the playerbase naturally contracts. As you make changes to and refine your game, you're naturally going to exclude more and more people from your vision of the game. Eventually you have a small group of hardcore fans that the games features specifically appeal to. You can not avoid this as a game meant to last years and years can not afford to remain stagnant. Regardless of the design directions they take with any game it will appeal to someone, and it will piss someone off. Design decision has no correlation to quality, simply preference. What I'm seeing on the forums is just the reaction of people who have an emotional attachment to the game, because they've been around awhile, who are upset that they are being excluded from the games design. That's what MMO's do. It does not mean the game was "ruined". To add, it's ironic that LOTR was used as an example of a cohesive meaningful story that doesn't trivialize the contributions of it's characters, when LOTR is a story that does exactly that. Being a continuation of The Hobbit where Thorin sacrificed his life and great pains were taken to defeat The Necromancer, the efforts of characters in the Hobbit were basically meaningless. They didn't defeat the Necromancer because he is later revealed to be Sauron. The dwarves reclaiming their homeland and defeating Smaug was pointless, they still disappear from Middle Earth anyways. The Elves, for all their contributions, still traveled west and disappeared from Middle Earth anyways, like they always intended to do. And all this took place during the main characters lives. So many of the main characters had the same fate they would've had if nobody ever did anything. Everyone else in the world got a happy ending, everyone else meaning people who didn't actually do anything and were probably unaware of the all of the events in the book to start with (Men, and hobbits). Let's wait until we read the whole book here before we say what the book does or does not accomplish.

I didn't accept it, oh well, that's up to me now isn't it? I didn't accept what you were trying to say because I wasn't convinced, and later in the posts you made I was able to get the truth, and you even admitted "yeah I was making that direct comparison there". You were Jedi mind tricked. Like I said, pre-pub 9 Jedi.

You can't keep saying you weren't really making the comparison, and then respond by continuing to make the comparison. You can't have it both ways. If it wasn't what you intended originally, why keep perpetuating it? Rather than say "I wasn't actually saying that" you continue to say "I wasn't actually saying that...but it's just like the NGE cause." You're basically trolling yourself here.

Actually bloodfin isn't the most populated emulator of SWG, it's a very poor representation of the great work the real team has done. Probably not the best place to be talking about this, but if you want "it" back it's out there, search for it. Or send me a PM here and I will answer any questions anyone might have about it. But yes, OP, it's coming across like you only want to talk about the NGE and SWG. I love SWG but this isn't the place for it, as I pointed out above. As Princess_Chibi has pointed out also, you're not doing your argument any favors by going down that road. As you've now found out, mentioning the NGE resonates with people. And I said, it seems as though you mentioned it because you wanted to solicit a reaction in people. Well you did, but obviously not the one you were expecting. If you're going to bring it up in a conversation, especially if you're going to use as a main point in an argument relating to another game, you better damn well do it with your guns loaded and know your stuff. If you do it recklessly or without a good reason, people will call you on it. I'm done arguing about NGE. If you do want to use it as some basis for your argument and ignore the points of veterans of that game, go for your life. But if it is not me or Princess_Chibi it will be some other prepub 9 Jedi coming along to make your life difficult. Also, your post latest post is so inaccurate it's not even funny. I could really just hammer you, but i can't be bothered. Read Raph Kosters blog if you want more of the true story of SWG, it's a good read for everyone, even if you didn't play SWG. http://www.raphkoster.com/tag/star-wars-galaxies/ And nahhhhhhhhaaha...Gotten to!

You're really taking my assertion that ESO is an MMORPG to heart, it's quite sad that it's gotten to you so hard. Hilarious, but sad. The industry views ESO as an MMORPG. It's marketed as an MMORPG. It hypes rewards that are only given to MMORPG's on it's official website and twitter account. Zenimax is a billion dollar company. I think I will take their word over some guy ranting about religion and politics and semantics on a message board. ESO is an MMORPG. It's documented. It's fact. There is no fallacy, I'm afraid. You have contradicted yourself, on several occasions, if you'd like I can remind you how you've done so. But that isn't needed as it's clearly stated just a few posts above, which you've failed entirely to address. But I'm sure in the subsequent novel you furiously pound out on your keyboard, you will find a way to contradict yourself again. We'll cross that bridge when we come to it. Since now you want to discuss presidential debates, Here is a quote from one of your former presidents: Now I challenge you to read any single one of your posts, and actually try to extract a single reasonable thought from it. It's gonna take awhile, because most of it is utter crap. That is all.

You can interview all you like, but I have not contradicted myself at all. I've merely pointed out the numerous times you have done so yourself. Your arguments don't even make sense at this point. "I never said ESO failed" when I directly posted you quoted that you did in fact say that it failed. "They marketed themselves as an MMO, that's what I meant." When the interview you linked was from an interview before the game even released. You're attempting to use quotes to support your position, and then they directly disprove what you're attempting to say. That is what we call, a disaster. I'll also add that the quote did not surprise me at all, I read it, a couple of years ago when I was following ESO's development. I actually thought you were going to provide something where they stated it was not an MMO, which he did not say. Do you have any such quotes? "Oh, but why is it so important to you to say ES is an MMO, that's what I meant, he said it wasn't." You really have no point or nuance, if so they were badly reverse engineered after the fact. ES has always been a single player game. The interview was conducted with the exact intention of addressing what non-MMO players could expect from ESO, so Matt Firor appealed to them directly, and addressed their concerns. It's called marketing spin my lad. That's what E3 is for, to market your upcoming games, and that's what he did. I personally couldn't care less if you want to use that as evidence that ESO is not an MMO. You're the guy who also tries to claim LoL is an MMO, I don't think you even know what an MMO is. Like I pointed out to you, the "financial reports" you're referring to, would also tell you Candy Crush is a PC game. Yet you continue to use them as evidence of something. ESO, SWTOR, etc. Are MMO's, that is shortened version of MMORPG by the way. That's just the way it is. Sorry it upsets you that they don't force you to pay $15 a month anymore, but you still can, if you wish. Also, you've done little but get upset and have resorted to personal attacks, while claiming I am defensive. So much disaster, so much text.

They tried to make a financially successful game, they succeeded. That's funny, since the interview with Matt Fior that you keep referring to actually took place before the game was even released. If you're saying that excerpt from an interview is irrefutable proof they are no longer an MMO, then they never "sold" themselves as one. Genius. They're still selling themselves, on Steam, under the massively multiplayer section. I guess that was the industry definition you were referring to, or the ones who hand out awards for MMOs which ESO has won. You're making stuff up still. You're confusing payment model and game type. Changing to B2P does not make an MMO not an MMO, nor does changing to F2P, which most MMO's have done. Your definition of MMO seems to be "sub model" that is not the industry definition, it is your definition. As for the rest, you're getting insanely defensive at this point, practically frothing. Massively Multiplayer Online makes no sense. If an MMO has RPG elements (RPG simply means roleplaying game, it doesn't mean "you pay 15 dollah" or whatever you'd like it to believe.) it is an MMORPG. Your entire argument is that of semantics, so yes, "I know you are but what am I". LoL is a MOBA. Did you know, financial research on "PC games" actually includes mobile games? Yet they are not played on a PC. Less smacktard, more logic.

It is an MMO, stating it is not an MMO is arguing semantics.

Wrong again, LoL is a MOBA. MMO is the same thing as an MMORPG. What Matt Fior said was a marketing blurb, they are the same thing.

Yes, you did. Where am I being defensive? I just don't have to type out seventeen paragraphs to get to the point, and I'm data mining your posts, that is not being defensive at all. It's a requirement to keep this readable. As for what Matt Fior said, he was saying that appealing to ES fans who were wary of the franchise becoming an MMO, it's called marketing. Saying it is more of A than B it is another is not the same as saying it is not B. It still has plenty of elements from B, hence why they are happy to accept awards that are only awarded to B.