Well that escalated quick. While d-sync and bad engine do play a part in people seeing weird things in PvP WZs it does not totally diminish claims of cheating. 1. Macros and scripts- This is a thing. People have made post or guides about it. People have them preloaded and they react automatically for them...DCDs, breaks, guards, etc. * I'm not talking about using ToT and keybinding. I'm talking about auto responsive reactions. Combat logs prove it. 2. No CD on abilities or DCDs - Have seen this, recorded it, and sent to BW. Funny how people always dismiss it or claim others for lying or failure of proof, but know that BW will ban or suspend your account for posting videos on this forum. Stop it....it happens. I've recorded and sent proof to BW of: -Permanent predation - no class in game that provides increased speed buff or classes stacking speed buffs. -Two electronets back to back from one player. *No...not another teammate even close...mini map showed this and only one merc in the game. -Sorc using barrier 2x in a row. GL explaining that one. -Sorc using force speed for 2 mins straight. *Yes, they have a speed buff off a heal, but video showed constant movement for over TWO minutes. Went from first area of Voidstar, over the bridge, past 2nd area, down the hall way, down the steps and to the third room...lol...and was still kitting enemies. She was a teammate and we didn't have a mara or sent. - Permanent DR abilities. Yes, some can be refreshed upon being attacked, but to have shroud last 2 minutes. Please, explain that one also...lol There are many more, but you're right. The game is dead, people are trying to kill it on purpose, and turning a blind eye won't help either. BUT, don't try to dispute, insult, demean, and belittle others who have witnessed these exploits and cheats. O...btw...everytime I submit a claim or direct account of the evidence. I get the same blah blah reply. Thanks, but we can't discuss our findings, and some line of thanks for bringing it to our attention. Why do I still play....same reason everyone else does. I love Star Wars PERIOD. I just play to have fun...win, lose , or low damage... lol

So...even the description is wrong. The mat says "from master operations", so is that master mode FPs? I know the answer is no, but just stating the problem there. I have never tried to do a NiM operation, and getting in a group as a beginner (noob) isn't going to happen. Also, if BW wanted to really make it super 'elite" status (play on their 1337 name) items, why the minimal stat improvement? Yes, some elite PvE group is going to start farming the easiest NiM Op and flood the market with mats or the augment, but BW has caused all of this fluff and stress for 2-4% gain..lmao

Well...if mandos didn't know they know now. Watch the increase of players using Pub side Commandos over mercs.

Hoppin, Thank you. This an awesome video and it's great to get an in depth breakdown of the spec. While some.people like written guides, I prefer video and also appreciated each ability being shown.

Seen it, and was probably the best competitive game I've played since 8v8 ranked. I solo Q'd into a Hypergate and was shocked we had all stealth squad( 2 heals, 1 tank, rest DPS) with mix of burst/DoTs. Three were a premade stealth squad (heal, tank, OP burst). We were surprised when the group of us mid didn't see anyone and I thought "cloaked in", or went to Pylon. Then when one group called stealth at Pylon, 2 stalling their pylon called stealth, and when I passed 2 myself in mid we knew it was on. Was a sap, stun, steal fest, and was so awesome:D. Only wish I would have had my Nvidia rec turned on. My team lost by 20+ pts:(

I would like to get an updated rotation or priority myself. I've seen crazy parses and very high DPS numbers in WZs by people with basic 306 gear (no set bonus). I must be doing something wrong for sure.

I've always wanted SWTOR to make a 4th option or bring back a way to let us customize a tree based on completion of all the other classes and allow you to use other skills like Heroic moment, but at this point of the game that will only come with a SWTOR 2 or new game. So far this season he has used melee skills, used his weapon as a staff, a sniper rifle, grapple, melee blade, some type of shock stab, and then pistol. Like a melee Merc/PT/Sniper. If he cloaks out I will lose it, but so far I'm very pleased. I just hate that they are 30mins:(

This 100%!!! Killed another OP is 306SB gear and he cried HAX after surviving/reflecting his burst.

Yes. Stealth past mobs, and fight bosses only. I use lvl50 companion.

Omg how?

What do you mean by this? I have done over 20+ solo Red Reapers getting new pcs. I'm up to 28x gear. Is there a faster way to gear up or am I missing the whole process completely?

Yes, I understand someone is always first...BUT 1. Most tech classes are already broken. 2. Does not give time for testing and feedback, because it's already late for force class testing. 3. So, the changes will either break them more and cause even further backlash.

Why is it only the force classes, and when can we expect the tech classes?

I was on Rishi SH and can't log into any character. After choosing it stays on the interlude loading screen and then finally goes back to the character selection screen.

Well....I have had the same problems and have spoken to many techs, level2, level3, and VPN software support. #1. I would think one of the other servers might offer better gameplay if you're in Australia. #2. Lower ping players have an advantage. Players think they have the same speed(ping, MS, latency) as others, BUT it really is a big difference. This effects many game actions and the way others see you and vice versa. People have told me when I play a Jugg that after I leap to them I do nothing for 1-2 secs...just stand there, but on my side, I immediately use another skill after the global CD. Missing packets and latency will also cause damage and heals to not register. #3 Having a high MS alone does not translate to having high packet loss / latency. My ping to some of the EU servers are high, but my path results in lower packet loss than routing to US servers. #4. Servers are located in Washington, DC. I've tried every VPN/ Gaming service out there to improve my routing/connection to the servers and it fluctuates every day. Players close to Washington DC have great routing, but playes with GREAT service or routing can compete with the low ping players near the servers. #5. I tried overclocking my GPU/CPU with some crazy results. It made me look like I was speed hacking. I was so fast I couldn't control my character at all. #6. Sometimes people say I'm glitching, blinking, and sometimes with quick back and forth movements, the lag will cause me to disappear on their screen. I've tested this with others while on fleet, WZs, PvE ops, and other areas. In some games players are flying by me. There are some players that are moving like they have permanent force speed on, but people in VoIP are telling me they are moving at normal speed. On my screen, I pull off multiple hits, but on their screen I've only done 1 attack. On my side, my DoT / HoT is on and registering, but in actuality...the Dot/HoT has falling off or never went on. Latency, lag, loss packets, or whatever you want to call it is real and can make a good player look like a noob or worse. #7. People with fiber vs cable vs DSL vs 4G/5G. It's night and day. I know people with fiber and they have it really good. All and all, I've tried numerous stuff to improve my lag/gameplay. I've changed gaming rigs, switched ISPs, argued and talked with a ton of techs, tried like 15 different modems, routers, and etc. I hope with 5G coming to my area soon or switching to a fiber line near the end of the year will improve my gaming experience, but when you see players late to react, hit someone after CC'g them, losing a node, or just low output in damage or heals...it might be lag.

It must be a bug. I'll explain. I freaked out too. It happened to me in a Civil War on grass. I was killed instantly with 85% HP. I took a SS and saved last 5min of video. Looked at it, and while viewing it I got another WZ pop. In that WZ I killed 2 people on the "Relic" node and the same "Defeated by with Kill (0 damage)" popped up with their names. BW will get a ton of these soon I guess and it's sad because new expansion sounds SooooooGoood!! BUT to OP and all...it's a BUG and you will soon experience it.

I play OBJs and even have a new OBJ......Piss off the farmers. It's my mission to end the game fast as hell. Trying to win OFC, but I was tired of leaving every match of any_______Ball and matches with farmers. You know who they are. Another OBJ I have is stream sniping farmers and getting the satisfaction of hearing them complain on stream..." stupid objective player...I hate them so much"..LMAO.

IMO you need to have that. That saves me a TON. Try that, AND if it doesn't work, send in a ticket. It works for me and if you have latency DoTs and other damage may stay on you more than 2 secs.

Well...TBH...they didn't ban enough. 43 people is a low number actually. There is still cheating going on. 1. People taking off or under performing when they are faced against a friend/guild-mate. 2. Q'g "Kickball" 3. Q'g together at odd times. 4. Playing spec that are known to fail, because friend/guild-mate is Q'g. I have watched many streams and have read or heard all of those plans. In defense of some players and people....lag and bad server connection gives the impression that cheating is going on also. Some players have awesome routing and server MS to the point that is really unfair, but that is not BW or the players fault. Playing against someone with 1-20MS on fiber will be a nightmare and almost a definite loss 1v1, and will give his team a chance to win 70% of time. I've seen players with great connection to the servers win 1v3s easy and players start complaining. I don't think BW banned some of these 43 because of player complaints like that, but I would guess it didn't help.

That x1000 If you have a bad connection forget alacrity all together...you miss a lot, are lagging, so when you do hit you want to do damage. High alacrity and lagging is horrible!

All good stuff and arguments are funny.... 1. DPS farmers are annoying WHEN they don't farm correctly - When they farm on Novare, Civil War or Yaven you can get the outside nodes when they deathmatch or stall on a point. The PROBLEM is when they move off node or split in 2's. 2. Other 4. Someone else said it best...new players follow the farmers ( no help to them and no help to other 1,2, or 3rd players) 3. Depending on the map... just quit and re-Q. You know who they are by now, so if you stay it's your fault. 4. Pros, elitist, vets crying about calling inc or when mezzed....LOL, seriously?? Calling INC- maybe one of the farmers are looking and will help, but other than Voidstar or Yavin...player ( if one of those 110 - 230 gear 118hp ) will lose if help does not respond ASAP. Getting Mezzed - Forget it....even if it is a decent stealth help will not arrive in time..UNLESS..vet player guarding. 5. "I'm farming because....." - Nobody cares...you want to farm? FARM....BUT don't cry, complain, and then call everyone else ****, suck, or etc because of your farming. 6. "New players won't take our advice" Hahaha...my buddy always says this...and sometimes tries to help, but seriously.. it's all about delivery..."why the **** did you do this", "why are you so _______,", or " you_______, you should have done this or that"....do you really think any new player will listen to you...on top of that...they have been cussed out or **** on every WZ and not listening to anyone....lol Blame BW, players, or etc.....do yourself a favor and just have fun while the game is still here, because when the farmers leave and PvEers get tired of the repetitive content the game is going away anyway.

Yup...I thought so too. I parse everything now because when you say stuff like that..people say your lying, I think something is crazy too, or maybe I'm missing something. So after I saw it and then went deeper in the combat log...I was stunned. I thought the main reason nobody responded was they thought I was trolling, but this really happened and I'm currently removing all the names in the log so I can show it. Now...the bigger question is...HOW? Been seeing crazy stuff all over...getting Net thrown on in 15-30 secs, other DCDs being used back to back, getting hit with shock 6x in 8 secs by a Sin tank...weird stuff!!! Main reason I started parsing to get proof of the hits, damage, dcds , heals, and etc.

I'm trying to get the best available rotation. I faced another Merc/Mando that was able to get off 8 Blazing bolts in 33 seconds. I have tried to increase alacrity to the highest possible and take the additional utilities that offer a alacrity boost. Even then...I can only manage 6, so either he/she was very rng lucky or something is wrong on my end.

1. Lower raid damage requirements. Easy. 2. Support abilities could boost raid damage done for xx seconds, apply xx DoT with any force/tech/kinetic damage, or etc. Just like an equal skilled dps can't kill a healer 1v1? Well...it happens and depending on what DCDs are gone. BW already lowered 2 of the tank specs, but Jugg/Guardian damage is still high. I've been in games when classes that have taunt abilities have ZERO taunts. They are all about the damage. Your opinion, but PvP is in this game...O and BTW...the only reason 60% of the base plays this game. When BW loses PvPers see how long the game will continue!! I wasn't going to address this because you are trying to EMO this thread (most PvEers do), but again..this is a P V P thread. Comment all you like, but when you start your EMO logic or start going into PvE lala land there is no reason to fill your PvE ego. Just keep trying to go there...man. Well...they can easily remove abilities in WZs. They already do it. The raid buffs are turned off in 4v4s. Again...it's a PvP thread so, I'm keeping it PvP specific. I could care less about any PvE content and when they kill PvP I'm gone anyway (and I already have 1 foot out the door).

WZ dps...pfft...you know what I mean. LOL