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You do understand that a lvl 10 fighting against a lvl 50 wont have the skills nor the damage output even if boolstered. You wont have your snares, cc, buffs, heals, etc. Yeah sorry this boolster thing is garbage, just makes you cannon fodder.
Atleast break it up into 2 or even 3 teirs.
10-25
26-50
51-75(when added)
or just do the standard 10 lvl teirs.
with my high level alt i get great scores and commedations
with my lvl 12 guy not so good, gets ate up quick
there is a difference!
If you were even a slightly smart pvper, a lvl 10 wouldnt 1v1 a 50. Its a team game because you need teamwork to win, your complaining because you dont win alot and thats why.
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the whole "skill" thing still doesn't explain why I lasted a pretty long time 1v1 against someone 34 levels above me, yet still died in the end while barely denting their health
Your a tanky character? I still have stated many times 1v1's that occur and their results have absolutely nothing to do with this thread.
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Whatever happened to the days when...
...CC or buff heavy classes did little or slow damage (the long lost support classes).
...Damage heavy classes had little to no cc and very little self healing if any at all.
...Healers could heal without being locked down by one player from 100% to 0%.
Where did this go?
I guess those top healers i always vote mvp in warzones I do are always constantly locked down from 100% to 0%, i totally forgot. As far as damage heavy classes go they have cc, every class has atleast 1 form of cc it wouldnt be fair if they didnt, but the self healing if any is very minor. Healers change the tide of battle, not self heals.
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"Even a good team can't save me"
Did you read what I wrote at all?
Yes, but how would you know the answer to that because it sounds like the tanks you play with dont put any effort in to defend you, and theres no communication taking place at all.
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I agree, there should be just as much effort put into the progression of obtaining pvp gear just like obtaining operations gear.
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You're joking right?
Even a good team can't save me from that and even if they could then what good am I doing? It's nearly impossible to get a heal off with the slow cast times and the insane interrupts/cc.
Really, just go try playing an operative healer. I dare you.
You just answered your own question, A good team could save you with that lol Did you ever take into account that everyone else on your team has CC of their own? As a tank specced powertech all I do is try to keep my healer alive because healing is what generally determines the winner of team battles.
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I guess you've never tried healing as an operative in pvp.
With all the interrupts/cc in mind now add:
-Main heal has a 2 sec cast time.
-In order to use my shorter cast time I need stacks of tactical advantage which I obtain from using my long cast heal.
-My instant HoT is nearly worthless.
-My free heal is channeled and ticks for way less than my HoT even does.
That pretty much sums up operative healing. Now you try doing that for a week in pvp then come back here and tell me how incredibly enjoyable it was.
I've been healing in mmos for years across multiple games. This is the worst experience I've ever had attempting to heal pvp.
But these stats all make sense assuming the other team is smart enough to focus the healer, thats entirely your teams fault for not supporting you and not making themselves a threat to attack instead of you.
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He's a level 50 that actually lacks the skill to play against other 50s so he has to protect the system where he gets to fight lower levels.
His comment that low levels can 'roll 50s' just proved that. He won't take a level 11 and video tape fighting a level 50 to back up his talk, because he can't
I've been doing a significant amount of warzones since lvl 10 on all my characters, I forgot when you figured out every single thing I do in game. By the way, your totally neglecting the fact that I've said multiple times " Take your level 10" 11 whatever " and charge a lvl 50, you will lose " . Its true you will lose, ITS A TEAM GAME not a 1v1 game. 1v1's rarely occur in any warzone because you wont win like that, and thats why your so butthurt because you always lose and blame it on an imbalance that you create. Im glad your unsatisfied and hope that it leads you to unsubbing, because warzones would be alot better without people like you.
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you keep saying we have teammates to back us up,
the enemies have teammates too, and almost always (on my server), they have a significantly higher amount of high levels
So outplay them, every team ive played against pug wise has had an extremely varied level base and to be honest levels 10-30 have the same threat level to me in pvp, and i think most people dont really care what level you are in pvp unless your 50, because its quite balanced otherwise. Obviously A level 10 wont have as many skills as a level 30 but a level 10 can still dish out quite a bit of damage on someone if left unchecked. Most people desire a 1-49 and 50 brackets because premade 50's on a team are the only thing that could ever cause an imbalance.
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Yawn, another person who feels his opinion is superior. They will bracket PVP, and your opinion won't change that
"ya brah, like totally, just like 50s, I mean we get all the abilities as well.....oh wait"
Another 50 who is skill-less. It's easy to beat warzones when you can roll low levels.
And as many people on this thread have said, low levels are capable of "rolling" 50's . But if your lvl 15 wants to rambo a 50 and try to take him on thats a different story.
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ROFL at the OP. Yeah a Level 10 who cant beat a Lv 50 is all about the player skills huh?
I am amazed to see so many %*(%@! on the forums.
ROFL at people like you. I thought warzones were a 8v8 not a 1v1? I have never once talked about 1v1 in this thread the discussion has mostly been about teamplay in warzones, and how superior teamplay and skill will win. But yea keep trying to 1v1 those 50's....your not gonna get any better at pvp
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Pvp is wonderful in this game. If you suck and die constantly it's pretty much your own fault. Try putting in the effort to put together a team and go into a WZ. I have a steady group of guys that I pvp with everyday. Get mumble or vent or some form of communication method aside from in game text. If you actually take the time to coordinate and plan then more than likey you will win. We crush the Empire every night we pvp. It's all about communication and team play. If you go and try and rambo then you deserve to lose.
+1 for this.
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Comparing FPS gameplay and balancing to an MMO pretty much invalidates anything you have to say.
There wasnt a single comparison in there, I simply used those games for examples because they use the same exact system, and it works. Theres nothing invalid about saying that.
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Lol. You didn't even read the post you quoted. He said if his team has the most 50s it isn't fun because it isn't a challenge and thus not fun. Not a hard concept. 50s need their own bracket period.
False, he stated how whichover many group has more 50's wins period.
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From my observations a single level up is 11 PvP wins. they give roughly 8% exp per win, unless you roll th eother team 6-0 n huttball, then you're looking at 4-5% of a levels EXP.
The highest character I've got that isnt htis character is only level 17, so i can't really comment.
I can say that my class quest at 31 gave me about 8k per quest reward, 4.4k per bonus mission and 118exp per kill.
It seems to equate to roughly the same amount of time to level up, but pvp also gets you the nifty valor points, and commendations (have 1k/1k including mercenary) which you can use to give your companions full pvp gear for kicks.
edit: solo queued too.
Good to hear its still a decent leveling method, At the moment the character im leveling has been doing the warzones every once and a while but I plan on rolling a character solely for pvp leveling or if they somehow incorporate a twinking method.
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I've levelled via pvp exclusively (running through class quests when i've vastly outlevelled them)
I'm level 31 right now, since level 14-15 (when i got a good grasp of the flow of the game) I've consistently placed top3 by pretty much every metric other than healing (no heals on a marauder..)
The game is fine, many people are trash at it.
The game could be improved it is true. But people doing bad at the game as bad players.
Valor 35 and growing!
Nicely done, How is the pace of leveling through solely pvp compared to questing and flashpoints? Or have you not made a comparison.
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Well man all I can say is I understand your post...but like I said you have made your point and there is really no need to respond and pick a fight with everyone who replies and doesn't agree with you.
It honestly makes you look more like a troll.
The issues I have with the pvp are not my problem they never have been my problem nor have they been the problem of many many users on these forums complaining.
And here is a fact, we will keep bringing up issues and in masses until they are addressed. People giving feedback and voicing their opinions (while not all the time) but a lot of the time make the game better.
The people who sit and defend a game, blaming the user base and fighting to keep an obviously flawed system because they have found a way to exploit or use it to their advantage and tell people if they don't like it to unsub , are the ones who actually hurt the game.
A stupid comment will get a stupid reply from someone who see's things differently, but im glad to read a valid post from your point of view. I have no problem with someone having a different opinion than me, but if they can't talk about it, or go into detail and see that there are up's and downs to everything than there is no discussion. Most of the people who i "troll" back at dont give any reasoning in their feedback, = trolled.
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That's exactly what it means.
This isn't anything new. COD, bf3, better goodies for the more time you put into it, theres no brackets. Its possible you can verse a team of the highest level, if you get stomped and see it as in imbalance so be it.
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People have complained about that very thing, in fact it's the number one pvp complaint.
Yea I'd be pissed to but that doesnt mean the system is unbalanced, If you lose your pug vs. a full geared premade 50's its understandable, which was the arguement. That is the only "flaw" I can see in warzones.
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So then you have said your point.
No need to argue with every person who disagrees with you or tell them to unsub.
Trust me people unsubbing is not the direction you want this to go in.
I am not even saying I am unsubbing because I am not and I hope BW improves the game.
But to sit there and claim it's not flawed and if we don't like pvp it's probably our fault is beyond ignorant and absurd.
Agree, and agree it is ignorant and absurd but your taking it so literally....you see sadly you STILL don't understand the post lol. If you dont like the pvp so be it the Title had a meaning behind it, but thats is why I said everyone who cared to respond very ignorantly to the post just read the title or something because they still dont get it either. I hope as well anyone that isnt having a good time with the game gets what they want because its a shame that others dont look at things like eachother and dont get to enjoy something they spent money on because of that.
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Well it seems someone is getting mad people don't like to be told to unsub or that the horrible glaring facts that the pvp system is flawed is OUR fault.
Go grab a juicebox and play the game you obviously love enough to spend all day on the forums talking about.
Seems if you loved it so much you would be in game rather than trying to convince people it's good.
Just sayin.
You still haven't gotten what I was trying to say from this entire thread in the first place so your arguement is invalid. But I do enjoy the discussion with people that can understand what im talking about. By the way, its not hard to minimize to the internet and take a couple of seconds to post back on a forum then go back to the game.
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All of you guys are wrong. It is in the human nature to dislike things that others might like, there for! no matter what Bio-ware, or any other company's do they will have players / people to dislike the content. Even the people who created this game has questioned it and disliked some of the 3D models etc. Bio, is already aware of such things. So it is nobody's fault.
Well yes there will always be two sides to an issue, but its absurd that people expected WAR level pvp systems from a game that has an objective with nothing to do with pvp, there is no logic or arguement for that.
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Sorry kid, but that's not your call to make.
Until you start paying for all of our games and our subs, you have absolutely 0 say in what we do with our ability to speak our mind or do in the game.
No your right, so sit down on that cozy chair of yours all day and play the game you love trashing on a forum lol, Failed attempt at being an alpha male on a forum. Next please
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Well said.
People run off, try to take 50s on their own like a BAWS, guess what not the way forward. If you are looking for that go play COD or Global Agenda / APB if you want to be one mans army.
Sure 50s with expertise gear are pain but for now its better then having the 20% of Community waiting for Queues.
Learn to play as a Team. I went through this in Beta and I know how it feels, yet when we seen 50 premade we still won due to being better as a team, even tho we did not match them on the damage and heals. Though this is mainly talking about Voidstar and Huttball. In Aldy, 50 will destroy and win most of the times.
This gets +1
, btw I definitly agree on the fact that Cod gives off a huge negative influence to teamplay in any game
, btw I definitly agree on the fact that Cod gives off a huge negative influence to teamplay in any game
If your not enjoying pvp, Its probably your fault
in PvP
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enlighten me, because what isnt there to understand about " remember the days when healers didnt get CC'd from 100% to 0% health" .