Solution: High rated PvP: Sexy gear, cool titles and epic mounts. Same stats as Low rated. Low rated PvP: Ugly gear, no titles and basic mounts. Same stats as High rated. People who want a carrot on a stick can go for the sexy gear, the mounts and titles so people can look at them and go "wow, they are good". Everyone is on an equal playing field as soon as they start PvP and don't waste time having to gear before seeing how good they actually are. (Someone also suggested giving everyone the golden samurai JK gear if they were low rated/new at PvP, if that's not incentive to go for this type of progression, nothing is)

I lost my tinfoil hat, i can't reply seriously to this thread anymore... Noooooooooooo!

Because I enjoy fighting players and feeling good when I come out top of an equally matched fight. I don't enjoy getting a toon to 50 and being stomped for alot of matches because i am fighting their gear, not them...

Removed the rest of the quote because it was all cancelled by this one comment, you shot yourself in the foot my friend. The best games are when you are up against people on a level playing field, when gear is not a factor. Posted this elsewhere aswell... Solution: Higher rated PvP: Sexy gear, cool titles and epic mounts same stats as low rated. Lower rated PvP: Ugly gear, no titles, basic mounts same stats as high rated. Problem solved, still gear progression for those types of players who want to look cool and achieve a physical item, also titles etc. for people who like that. And everyone is on an equal playing field except for aesthetics. (Someone even suggested giving everyone the gold samurai JK gear until they get higher ratings, if that's not incentive to progress, nothing is.)

Practically every tournament level of every game puts people on as equal a gear level as possible so the winner is actually the most skilled, not the most geared.

Solution: Higher rated PvP = fancy colored gear, cool titles and mount, no stat difference with Lower - People can have their epeen progression by getting rainbow colored gear instead of a poo color whilst not having a built in advantage. Lower rated PvP = Ugly gear, no titles, basic mounts, no stat difference with Higher - People can go straight to their appropriate skill rating as gear doesn't stop them for a few weeks beforehand. And to the people moaning "HIGH END PLAYERS ONLY PLAY BECAUSE THEY CAN GET NEW GEARZ!". Fair point, but surely the high end players under the progression system already have max gear? Why do they play after they got all that? they have no progression from that point so surely they all quit? Oh, they don't? Oh, they like having ratings and the pure feeling of being at the top? Shocking... Being at the top should be purely aesthetic, and any problems with this is just people who don't want competition from people who haven't played as long as them. Which brings me to the point, time invested =/= skill level, some people suck after years of playing a game, some are amazing after 1 week, deal with it. Edit: To above, gotta love people with 2.2k rating thinking they is Pro and tournament level in arena.

They did 100% say that the "ability swaps" would be under Heroic Moment. The buffs however were mentioned separately and are not the "abilities" everyone is mentioning as this thread goes more and more off-track. The purpose of all buffs on 1 player is to stop teams going "oh ****, we need a sorc to join us because we lack the buff". There is no point at all in that if you need a companion with you. (Also a 30 min buff on a 20 min cd should itself tell you that it is wrong to assume it is a heroic moment)

Image of Michael Jordan in rocket boots, just thought I'd share.

Your first paragraph just provides proof for the guy you quoted "without proof and blame... gear when you get face rolled". You want him to prove he is better? Remove gear as a factor, problem solved. Why do you think other people who practice like mad are nowhere near as good as Michael Jordan is? Are you suggesting Michael Jordan was the only basketballer to ever practice like mad? Just look at small teams etc. for proof, some are just inherently worse than others, even with practice.

I don't believe the buffs have any requirements, that's how it sounded anyway. But tbh, so what? If someone can just res with a sorc all the time, or have a sorc fight near them and press the buff for the same effect, what does it matter if the players can do it themselves instead?? ^To above, the improved buffs are not Heroic Moments like Force Grips etc...

Just noticed that, hahahaha, this guy obviously didn't think before typing...

Also, to the people who say "go play an fps if you want equal gear" it's like saying the following: Player 1: My game of tetris doesn't have x graphic option in the menu Player 2: Idiot, you don't need the x graphic option, if you want that option, go play GTA 4, not Tetris. Player 1: But, I don't like GTA, I prefer games like tetris Player 2: Just **** and go play GTA to have your fancy x graphic! Edit: To the above, stop criticising everything a company does. "They don't talk to our community, they are useless" "They are talking to our community, they are useless!" sort of vibe comes from you. They don't play at the moment, because they have no ratings to go for. However, that will be fixed soon, many games rely purely on ratings to keep people playing, and guess what, they do VERY well...

What about the people who always have the top gear, nothing in the game ever changes for them, yet they still play? PvP changes every time you play it aswell, new players/teams etc. And a quick note: IT IS CALLED PVP, Player Versus Player, NOT PVG, Player versus Gear. With a gear-based PvP system, you cannot tell if you are winning due to you being good, or due to outgearing the opponent, which leads to a falsehood that people claim themselves as "pro" when they have infact just invested more time than others. Why do you think in tournaments etc. People are ALWAYS given the chance at equal gear? Because otherwise it is not based on skill in anyway! Also, BioWare is already implementing the change, stop ************.

It's happening. Get over it. /thread

They said it will start with dual-spec, then be evolved into multi-spec at a later date. and that date is "soon"