right.....thanks for playing, maybe BW will recruit you for their pvp dev team; that way, you can single-handedly drive stock prices at EA down another 15 percent. OP is right; BW couldnt have gotten it worse if they tried. Its almost as though someone -- GZ -- is trying to sabotage the entire company with that patch. How that guy still has a job is beyond me. If I made that sort of mistake professionally, Id lose my license and likely be bankrupt.

Pft...everyone and their brother knows this is one of one million BW/EA misrepresentations for the purpose of calming investors. Core MMO gamers a fleeing this game like they were on the Titanic in its final hour.

Guild has gathered over 1000 players since 12/11....were down to 7-12 active.

yes its intended...there have been complaints since 12/11 about the fact that hutball is broken and favors a few classes...BW doesnt give a **** about the quality of its product or pvp. simple fix would be to require them to pass the ball rather than leap/push/sprint/et all with it.

Game is dead no worries. Guild of 100+ active players is now down to 7. Its over, forget winning and losing just play D3/Tera...BW is too slow and there is no hope. In my book, BW is the biggest failure ever. This game had so much promise but: 1) they cant balance factions for ****; 2) they cant balance classes for anything, in fact, they have gone backwards; 3) Ilum was a massive fiasco; 4) pve is a ****ign joke, and boring; 5) severs are dead; 6) they cant perform routine maintenance without breaking ****, like the M.cube; 7) healing has no place in pvp; 8) they hand out gear and undermine prior playes effort like its candy and ya'll are three year olds; 9) the cant get crafting right and have made most obsolete or pointless; 10) the economy sucks and is basically non-existent; 11) bugs, bugs, bugs....man o'lordy have there been bugs; 12) pvp is boring as hell 1 hr wait just to have the same team of op maras and PTs, lameo; 13) lies and misdeception from the developers, always with an eye towards investors, **** players.... I could go on, but BW and GZ are HORRIBLE...im done with them forever. **** them.

lol ranked WZs with pvp as it is would be a totaly *********** disaster. BW needs to fix the dps zerg race first, then do ranked. They are way ahead of themselves with ranked and nowhere near ready.

please remove the respec costs until you guys can sort this out, at least this will give guilds on small servers some flexibility.

aye PT/VGs are seriously OP atm...

I agree its frustrating, and was in the same pickle. Its simply not worth trying to roll CM any more. I just took the BM gear mods and put them in crafted gear. Yes, lost the set bonuses. But it works out, given I play assault pvp/pve. Pve gear is campaign/rakata, 45 percent crit/350power/80 percent surge. Pvp is 40ish crit/79 surge/1200 exp. It works. Its not optimal but it works. We 6 man KP NiM, dps is 1300ish usually (actually close to what I can pull gunnery with 2 piece bonus given that its more mobile). Major problems I run into is competitive premade v. premade pvp. Assault just doesnt have the muscle to compete. Against pugs its faceroll easy (night and day difference). Keep holding out for when they fix CMs/Healing in pvp or revamp assault to compete with a vanguard/PT...that or free sub runs out.

fire effects need to be uncleansable, same a sorc/sage dots.

/5chars

Yeish. How many times, how many times are people gonna post crap like this. There is ZERO point in playing assualt as a commando. Reroll vanguard if thats what you wanna do, its a THOUSAND times better. The only thing that can be said for commando's assualt is that it gets a few heals, but they are so ammo intensive and ineffective, its not worth it.

please tell me this is a joke. med zone is your single most important talent in pvp. using that, at the right time, with a full resolve bar, is the ONLY chance you have to heal a teammate in 1.2. unless you're talking about some random crappy pug where every melee/PT/vanguard and his brother isnt focusing you, but then who cares about that scenario.

Bounty Hunter is too generic; PTs are solid and can compete with any jedi. Mercs are bantha fodder for everyone except commandos.

You and BW brother, you and BW. All that matters is the takeawy: shelv your merc until BW gets it together, hes right on the money about how silly the class design is.

Exactly right. Its also conclusive proof that BW's class development team is incompetent. They simply shuffled a few skills around to make it more "interesting" to play, but in the process borked the entire underlying mechanic for the class. What a joke man, pathetic. I would be ok with this if BW hadnt also pounded healing into oblivion. Class just got absolutely *********** annihilated in 1.2, no other way to put it.

Who you calling a derp exactly? *** does this have to do with skill? You're dead in 3 gcds....lol. And at least half his opponents were in recruit/BM gear. This cannot be done as a commando/merc, impossible.

Dont kid yourself, in SWTOR is very, very, very simple: A bad plays a commando, merc, agent, or operative. A bad tries to heal on a sage. A bad is someone who isnt playing a sentinel, marauder, pyrotech, or vanguard.

thats the point...healing is entirely useless in a game with this kind of burst. Literally zero point in trying to heal a WZ. Your're dead without guard, and with it, ok fine, he has to use an interrupt or a single cc. I mean, he burst 20k in 2 gcds....lol

really? lol, just lol at the healing nerfs....

Except Trion made active efforts to correct most of these, and they didnt stick around long. You always had confidence Trion was address the issue and iron out. 6 weeks later and Mercs/Commands are still slime at the bottom of the barrel. Snipers/slingers were borked for longer than that. And Trion never left major faction imbalances in place. Swtor has had massive, glaring faction imbalances since beta and BW doesnt seem to give a ****, or get the fact that this matters to pvpers.

its a function of atrociously low server pops. Happens on mine too. If there are less than 8 solo Qs, premades get pushed to the front to fill the Q. If 7 solos Q, three get bounced and have to wait for next match, even if first in time. We do it all the time to push solo Qs out during off hours.

Lol@ the pve content. The made massive changes to healing 1.2 to supposedly "tighten" pve encounters. Guess what, they are still lame and super easy. EC story takes about 45-1hr. HM takes maybe 30 mins longer. No reason to grind dailies for silly relics that are a 2 percent upgrade. NiM KP can be 5-6 manned, easy. pvp occupied 80 percent plus of the guilds time before 1.2, with 40+ people participating every night. Now there are a handful -- less than 7 -- that still pvp. Guess what, they are all sents/guard/vanguards.

They killed...ruined...destroyed healing....its a stupid *********** dps zerg race. I think its lame and 1.2 = SWG/NGE.

I completely agree with this; they cant change classes so fundamentally and drastically without undoing everyone expectations. Having wasted 4 months on a character I now hate playing....well all I can think of is the SWG/NGE fiasco. Its the only candiate in my mind for a change as bad as 1.2.