Unsubbed during my 30 days free. No cross server queues Low pop server with no transfer options

Oh and what BioWare has done with Illum is unforgivable. Overall PVP in this game has been an amateur effort at best. My PVE friends tell me that the grass ain't much greener on their side either.

Yup. Being on a zombie server absolutely sucks. As of this moment my server has <150 people online, at peak maybe double that.

I wish I was on a high pop server. I might just unsub until server transfers/merges or cross server queues, already have pretty much my War Hero set, nothing to do.

Because with SWTOR, BioWare's arrogance finally did them in. Community engagement is no where near Blizzard's with their community. What is the FIRST thing they talked about in the podcast? Instead of new features coming top down, the team members were empowered to design features... not a single comment about how they listened to the community and responded, it comes off as arrogant in a "you should eat whatever we cook up" kind of way. The community wasn't clamoring for legacy features, we wanted transfers, merges, ranked WZ, cross server queues, etc. I know so many pvpers that unsubbed because ranked didn't make it into 1.2 as promised and there's only 1-2 pvp games happening on my server during peak in the 50s bracket, which is just depressing. What is wrong with this game is the fundamental misalignment between what the players want to see and what BioWare's vision is.

^ same situation here

PvP or PvE? Makes a difference...

Yes the OP asked about dps in Pvp. Pyro is superior dps spec is it not? Does it run the ball better in huttball? Nope. Does it tank or guard better? Nope The OP asked about dps in pvp. Pyro is the king of dps, especially burst, the kind the matters most in pvp.

If you compared 21/2/18 to 4/6/31 all the above applies to PvP as well. Pyro fights in pvp using CGC and gains the benefit of all the points I listed. Dude, I know it's some spec you named after a dead bird and you got some emotional attachment to it. But YOU challenged me on the math and I provided all the reason why the delta between 21/2/18 and Pyro is larger than merely the 30% crit in RP you suggested. I used your argument points.

I need to check my math? Here are all the reasons why it's no where close to 31 Pyro for dps. 1. You lose 3% tech crit from CGC from Prototype Cylinders 2. Lose another 3% tech crit from Burnout 3. Loss of 6% crit on all fire effects from not having Prototype Burn Enhancers 4. Lose 30% crit/surge dmg from Firebug 5. Heat management becomes issue with CGC in pve dps spec because you have to keep spamming IM to reapply dot for railshots 6. 20% less armor penetration for RailShot 7. No Thermal Det 8. Lose 9% damage from Rain of Fire (this HUGE! unforgivable) ... and your feeble rebuttle to all of this is: "yeah you get 30% more crit chance on RP". Instead of the shamelessly promotion some spec you named after a dead bird, why don't you do the math and tell people the truth instead of misleading the BH community to believing that this mediocrity of a spec is best thing since sliced bread.

Overall I think the hybrid spec is flawed and this fad will pass in time as theorycraft plays out. IGC or CGC, there are no doubt a lot of points wasted either way. All that just for Jet Charge. If I were running EV nightmare and a BH showed up with this, I would kick him out of the raid. It's a decent pvp spec if you want to be average. It neither runs the ball well as a 31 point shield tech and the damage is no where close to full pyrotech. If you want mediocrity all around, 21/2/18 is that spec for you.

These two specs are worlds apart. It's not only the spec but 21/2/18 and 4/6/31 both have different itemization. 21/2/18 would likely use either Combat Tech or Supercommando pvp sets. Hybrid with Eliminator set isn't as effective as Combat Tech or Supercommando since Railshot on hybrid does roughly half of the damage of RS with 4/6/31. On the other hand, 4/6/31 uses Eliminator set for the 15% crit RS bonus. It has no jet charge, but the dps in both sustained and burst are higher. The heat management is more challenging with 4/6/31 than hybrid tho.

here is my talent tree http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#301MMZMsZfhMbdGhrs.1

Lol. Like I can control what gear my opponents have. Most of the fights I am out numbered and don't have the jump on them. So I don't see where the comment of me getting the jump on people comes from. And yes, pyrotech without shield gen and ion gas is squishy even with 10% expertise, I mitigate it with biochem and kolto whenever I can. Also... you're suggesting that someone that does 500k dmg for your team doesn't contribute to the match. I think otherwise, in any objective based game whether Civil War, Huttball or Voidstar, being able to kill the other team's numbers contributes significantly to winning.

Here is my pyrotech:

oops... fixed

Hey all. This is my 2nd video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmSTIl4lG8Y My first video can be seen at: http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=101697 I called it Fearless cause that's my style, I engage my opponents at any odds stacked against me, then truly I can see what feats my little pyrotech can accomplish. Few things have changed since the first video. Now a 4/6/31 spec instead of 2/8/31 and I added quite few more pieces of champion gear (Eliminator set). Every single clip is from solo queue. I realized that I couldn't get any good footage from my premades since we just roll everyone so I started solo queuing to make things more interesting. Cheers, Spar

Eliminator because the 4 piece set bonus benefits my spec, which is 31 point Pyrotech. Railshot is the central element the spec rallies around.

New vid should be out this weekend. This time all recorded in 1080 @ 60fps and I'm in full champion/centurion gear. Got footage from two of the matches where I hit 500k+ in dmg.

I see a lot of posts about the 21/2/18 and that of course is trash. Pvp is all about burst damage and TD is pretty important (mine crits for 4k). I'm 9 ranks away from Battlemaster right now and have few hundred games of pvp under me. Engagement rotation is such: TD > IM > RS > FB > RS or RP The rotation basically means your railshot hits at the sametime the TD goes off. When they both crit along with the IM dot, my target typically would be down by 9-10k hp with my gear. Is of course 2/8/31 http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#3010MZMsMZfhMbdGhrs.1 Here is a game from last night: http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/9679/507k.png My pvp video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KqJeyV56eM I've never spoken or seen a 21/2/18 guy do any where close to my dps in pvp.

Here is my spec. http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#301bMZMsZfhMbdGhrs.1 400k+ damage is pretty normal for me in a match. Highest I've done is just shy of 500k dmg, and it was 3 min short of being a full match.

Check out my pyrotech pvp vid. Mostly champion gear, valor rank 45. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KqJeyV56eM

This is my first video with my powertech that is pyrotech spec with 7-8 pieces of Champion gear. I made this video over a single day. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KqJeyV56eM Let me know what you think!

This is my first video with my powertech that is pyrotech spec with 7-8 pieces of Champion gear. I made this video over a single day. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KqJeyV56eM Let me know what you think

BioWare needs to add neutral relics asap.