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  1. Dude! It's per se. :D It's latin.

     

    FWIW, I'm 57 and not all that comfortable with age-limited guilds. There are plenty reasonable enough teenagers, plenty of whiny, immature 40-somethings.

     

    Ha, wow my bad.

     

    Thanks for the feedback! I just wanted my opinion out there. It would be nice to not be set into a group because of a generalization.

     

    There are exceptions to almost everything, so why not try the "innocent until proven guilty" mindset? If someone proves immature, remove them. But give the rest of us a chance?

  2. I like age adult guilds for a few reasons

    1. I can talk however I want I don’t have to worry about what I say.

    2. I don’t have to worry about playfully flirting with someone and them being 16 and feeling like a pedo bear.

    3. I like talking with older adult 25 plus a lot of them have kids and understand people have real lives.

    4. Yes there are 17 year olds that act like they are 30 and 30 year olds that act like they are 17 but chances are they are going to act about their age.

    5. I have been in guilds made for everyone and guilds made for adults in adult guild there tends to be less drama, less emo little brats.

    6. I like when people use WORDS not l33t. I find the older the adults the less that chat talk.

     

    According to your 4th reason, you also believe there are exceptions to the age directly influencing maturity generalization. Why restrict the few people who are mature from joining because of the silliness of their peers?

     

    As an extreme example, that's akin to convicting an entire group of people for a crime that one member committed; because as similar beings, they're potentially going to commit it as well.

  3. Thats stupid, especially since most highschool you see have more swearing/suggestive language than you'll ever hear over vent or anything.

     

    Ethics my friend, ethics. Different people have different morals. I believe maturity is partly the ability to respect that fact and the people whom have different views.

     

    Not to judge him/her as I don't know them, but by their response it seems like they just don't like the idea of influencing young people in what they consider to be an immoral way. Possibly a maternal instinct, also possibly just respect for the individual- and that I gather because I believe similarly. I don't talk like I did when I was in High School around younger kids or seniors.

  4. As a 40 year old adult, I will tell you why I support age requirements: I don't have to watch my mouth. You may think this is a little thing. But I try my hardest to not cuss or use adult oriented humor around children. Call me old fashioned (and yes I know you hear worse in school, I did too), but you do not need to be hearing it from my mouth and I do not want to have to waste time making sure everyone is of age before I tell an off color joke. This to me is the only reason for age requirements, as adults can (and probably are) be less mature than some 17 year olds.

     

    That's a legitimate reason. However, could there be an alternative to filtering that way? Why not in the guild application, just give a warning that the conversations that may or may not occur could contain adult language?

     

    Just as an example, children choose to watch TV-MA shows (South Park, Tosh.0, etc). They can't blame the show for ruining their innocence, it was their choice to watch it. The simple fact that there was a warning about it (even in fine print- it wouldn't matter) would protect if not justify the adults responsible for the content.

     

    Yes, I realize that for many people, it just isn't acceptable no matter what the circumstances to do something you consider to be unethical.

     

    So I have one question. What difference is there between a 17 year old with under 2 months to go till 18, and 18 itself? (keeping in mind that the 18 years of age= adult law does not exist world-wide).

  5. And, I have to ask, what do these people mean by maturity? No Trash Talking? Never indulges in a little bit of silliness? Will show up regularly to scheduled events (actually seems easier for younger people, because RL will have less surprises for them)?

     

    Well, I think the meaning of maturity varies between the different games. For example, in Runescape I led a council of 4 people, who in turn led a group of guilds (in that game known as clans) with roughly 2.5k total individuals as part of it. We had a major problem with childish arguments occurring quite a lot. Silly things like personal disagreements over who was the best "god" in the game actually becoming so disproportionate that myself and the other heads of the union had to break up (and that was a very bad problem because for the very same reason that the kids respected us- rising to the point of leading that large a group; it also meant that we had many more important issues to deal with).

     

    Now there's a fair example of extreme immaturity, but rare to find in the respected and more expensive game like this. I'm not so sure why they're worried about it.

     

    In major games like SWTOR, I almost never find a group of people who have any problems with maturity at all. Yes you find the occasional troll, but I doubt that comes down to age... more or less just a general dissatisfaction.

     

    Point being-

     

    I can only speculate; I really don't have a good answer to that as I'm not an adult leader of an adult-only guild. Hopefully one of those people will decide to post and explain their reasoning.

     

    So can anyone answer the question? What does maturity mean? (specifically pertaining to the MMO community)

  6. First, a little about me. Contrary to some of my other posts (at this point, lying about my age is just what I'm used to... and has become a bad habit) I'm a 17 year old guy who wants to meet like-minded people around the world. I have no problem behaving like a mature adult, because honestly my experiences so far in life have added up (in my own and others' opinions) to a maturity beyond my age.

     

    Now, I totally understand that there ARE some very young kids who like to game, and that some are rather annoying (trust me, I played Runescape for 9 years).

     

    But the responses of the Adult community, while understandable, are not all the fair in my opinion.

     

    I find myself having to constantly lie about my age to get into an "adult only" guild setting because over the course of 4-5 different MMOs I've been denied access to the most prestigious guilds for being honest.

     

    I'll be the first to say I have my immature moments, just like every other young adult... but I'm here to 1, have fun (which doesn't involve immaturity per say), 2, meet new people, and 3, make progress in-game with friends.

     

    I'm dedicated, loyal, and active. I try my best to be myself while at the same time expanding my awareness of how my actions affect others.

     

    It's... frustrating and makes me feel guilty to have to lie to people I want to become friends with in order to be accepted by them.

     

    MMOs are all about being social! Hence the name.

     

    ,.~^~.,

     

    I dislike complaining as well, so just so everyone knows, this thread was created purely for responses from the 18+ community on my opinions and thoughts. I would love to hear constructive feedback on my predicament and whatever else comes to mind.

     

    I will be 18 in less than 2 months, but I was recently told to wait the remaining time before I could apply to a guild I've wanted to join.

  7. Level 50 takes a month at most, funny seeing all the kids QQ 'bout how they feel betrayed.

     

    Well that's entirely dependent. I'm a proud member of the swtor community since the day after it came out, and my highest toon is a 48. It takes me forever as a new-ish member of the MMO universe to figure out my playstyle, much less which class actually matches that style. Right now I'm debating over a sage/sorc or a shadow/assassin. It really doesn't help now that theyre encouraging me to make even more alts. I'm up to 20 here... spread across the eastern pvp servers...

  8. Honestly it's a rare and usually nice opportunity to meet a girl playing an online video game. I hear about them rather often but never could be quite sure until I found out about Vent.

     

    The only girl I've met playing swtor so far is really cool. She's a DPS sorcerer.

     

    The assumption that theyre all healers because of motherly instincts is... well we can blame some young trolls for that I bet. It's just immaturity at work.

  9. Ahhh the wonderful world of solo PVE! I'm going to jump right in and say that there's a very simple and fairly obvious way to beat almost any solo boss. Heal Spec. Gear Khem Val as much as you can. I completely updated Khem's armor to current level orange gear with about 40k. After that- it's simple. Send in your companion instead of yourself. Keep him healed and he will deal slow* but sure damage. Once you have the consumption ability it's nigh impossible to run out of force (consume then heal yourself, you'll always have more force than you started with).

     

    I just discovered this on my own 3 days ago. After having a 50 friend help me beat Thanaton on Corellia, I wanted to head over and finish the class quests. She couldnt come. Luckily, in my downtime I was invited to do a Flashpoint (directive 7) and had to spec as a healer for it. Whoa-and-behold, the idea came. I soloed the final boss of the class quests at level 47 and ended with FULL HEALTH.. It took awhile but... honestly it was way too easy.

     

    The only downside- it doesn't work so well on mobs. Khem has an AOE pull, but that breaks any CCs you set. Save the secret for the really tough elites and occasional champs.

  10. hello first off id like to say that the patch that came the 12th 1.2 is awsome but now again there another maintence the 13th and believe thats theres another on the tuesday wich there ALMOST allways is... so i ask why, oh why is there 2 day in a row and not 1 of them are patch day, why not simply wait with the 13th maintence til tuesday that means that in under 1 week there will be 3 downtimes where i lose gametime!! 1 i understand but 3 thats bull**** and they know it so i ask the community will you really let them think that this is okay... let your oppinion be heard on this thread

     

    It's not that hard to figure out... Bioware worked for ages on 1.2 but as with any huge update (and this was changing half the game) there are bound to be small kinks in the system.

     

    Think about it- the advertisements for SWTOR began YEARS ago, meaning that Bioware was already working on it. When it came out it wasn't flawless so they deployed maintenance patches.

     

    When 1.2 came out it was the same story... so now theyre fixing it. I'm really glad they are too because some of these glitches were highly annoying (such as when I first logged on after the patch downloaded, my toon had NO animations for ANY action. I literally scooted across the floor instead of walking.)

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