The problem is that the Sorc might mechanic is just by far stronger/better than Energy/Heat... At least for Healers, especially in PvP where you want to "OH****-Heal" and not "carefully manage your oh so interesting ressource system"... While people around you are dieing....

Pick a Sorc or regret rolling another healer forever .

They would me too, if i would be a Sorc.

Most of the "big" class diffrences in WoW are not existant anymore or don't matter nowadays? YOu know why? Because it's bad if only 1-2 out of X classes can do certain tasks. Or to say it diffrent: Between my Operative and my Sniper there is just as much diffrence as between my Shadowprest and my Hunter... or any other class. Now certain classes are a little more similar (Marauder and Off-Jugger).. But enhancement Shamans and Furywarriors or Rogues did also not play like WORLD of a diffrence in actual raiding content...

I'm also low level but from what i saw: Imho the Sniper brings the following things to a PvP-Group. Damage (but not more than others). Legshot (thats actually really neat in Hutball). Flashbang. Call me strange, but that seems kinda lacking to me compared to what others do, i just feel like somethin gis missing... Especially because Snipers are very immobile while others sprint and jump around like bunnies .

Isn't that what the Assassin/Shadow is?

I agree. It's OUTRAGEOUS that Sorcerors are only the best at Healing and Ranged DMG, they naturally also should excell at Melee-DPS and Tanking! Everything else is outrageous lorewise!

When playing my Sniper it just feels kinda stupid having Mercs just spamming their 1 button for the same/better result than you hiding in cover hoping no one will kick you out of it/make you totally useless... You just feel stupid for having rolled a Sniper, whats the point? Yeah, i can interrupt Tracer Missile and the Issue is not in 1on1... Some BG's are just Merc/Sorc bonanza... It's all about them Lightning and them Rockets...

This, in the end Cata managed to piss nearly everyone off due to not knowing what it wanted to be... I liked it at first, then they nerfed it. Heroic Raids alone are by far not enough to keep me interested /hate. SWTOR? At least the leveling up is fun and "kinda" challenging (as in you can't be totally brain afk).

My Operative (49), Mercenary (18), Sniper (21) and Marauder (13?) seem to all be very diffrent. What is true, most classes have "a stun" and "an interrupt"... The diffrence lies in the ways they deal damage.

Why? When looking at the numbers from the Talent-Calc (which are for lvl 50 whiteout gear?) Lethality: Corrosive Grenade --> The DMG of this spell for single targets is ridiculously low.. It's like 50 DPS, maybe 55-60 DPS with full Lethality. That’s really not worth the point you spend for it if not for the additional Cull damage the poison grants. Corrosive Dart --> Is "base" for Lethality probably about 230DPS and for Conceal about 160-70 DPS? So while this hits harder it's still not really WOAH. Cull --> So here Lethality shines.. This does more damage than Lacerate (but can't proc another TA). So in the end to me it seems like: Does Cull + "stronger" Corrosive Dart make up for: VS 30% stronger Crits on Backstab. Acid-Blade (so Armorpen for all Attacks + the Dot). 3% more DMG on poisoned Targets. Lacerate + Collateral Strike. "Free" Backstab (well, you pay for Acid Blade so it's still the same basically ) Am I missing something important?

I'm 49 now.. All the way with Concealment. Vector + Me = Just kicking the **** out everything as fast as possible . The only "noteable" enemies are (strong) Melee-Elites which I sometimes have to kite (since "later" Voss).. But they are not dangerous, I just can't go all "Juggernaut" on them . I never used Dr. Lokin and never used Kalyo since I got Vector. Temple would probably also work but cunning gear is mine! . It's normally not a problem to have Backstab on cooldown against most enemies... Just use your Stuns/Knockdowns. You have to be pretty "awake/active" while playing or you will die/lose way more HP than you should even on normal pulls. The most important thing is to keep Vector (and yourself) up to date. I can't stress enough how important Vectors gear is... Mine can/could sometimes finish "strongs" or entire groups of "weak/normals" (nearly) alone.

What exactly makes you think Lethality is (much) stronger in PvE?

I did this yesterday as 47 Operative. I died once because i didn't realize that he is healing and i might shuld interrupt (was just awake since 20 minutes and had a little hangover ). He went down really easy on the second try. It's all a quetsion of DPS i think... You probably can't interrupt all is Heals and he will get 1-2 in... But that shouldn't worry you because he does like no dmg? In the me and Vector just beat him up asap while using Intterupt when possible... The Melee-Elites from normal Quests on Voss where way harder? At least whiteout kiting... And being on even level with them (or one below). But if your really having trouble: When in doubt, get 1 level via PvP or FP's and try again (and buy the lvl 40 oranges for you/your compagnions).

Hast du dir mal überlegt, dass man das kaum beantworten kann ohne zu wissen was "deine" Mako vorher hatte? Mein Vector (DPS-Agent) rennt mit Orangem zeugs rum und da merkt mans deutlich ob er jetzt 10 level hitnerher hinkt oder up to date ist . Ganz ohne auf Zahlen zu schauen, das Zeug liegt einfach alles deutlich schneller.

The Problem isn't the OP being weak (i'm not). As DPS? Rangeds dominate due to encounter design. As a Healer? Sorc rule supreme due to being ridiculously overpwoered thanks to the might mechanic being just plain better than Energy/Heat in 9 out of 10 cases.. So whats left?... I can try bursting someone down, just hope that he's alone (which he never should be?). Oh and as for leveling: I sthere any class that does not feel stupid when they see a Merc/Powertech using Death from Above?...

With my (concealment) OP i tend to favor dieing over healing me from nearly 0% to 100%.... It's faster. OP healing is so terrible when not specced... And it should be like that for all "healers" that don't specc heal.

Tut mir leid, ich hab leider Mühe mich in Leute zu versetzen die nicht fähig sind alle ~1.5 sec die korrekte 5-10 (immer gleichen) Tasten zu drücken. Ich mein, die meisten dieser Leute sind in der Lage Auto zu fahren.. Das ist schwerer. Meine Schlussfolgerung? Die meisten sind nur zu Faul sich auch nur 1 Sekunde Gedanken zu machen warum Sie wohl probleme haben.

The Sorc healing/might mechanic is just WAY better in a PvP enviorement. The bigger sustain of the Energy/Heat system does not even come in to play in most PvP scenarios. When it comes to "just keep someone alive" the Sorc shines... Unless the fight goes on for a long time and there are no hard damagespikes that need you to spam... Which like never happens in PvP.

My DPS companions (nearly)? kill full enemy packs of weaks and can tank "strongs" while i kill weaks theire not really geread state of the art atm. So, what exactly is the point of taking a Tank companion? Oh yeah, there is none... Just give the DPS'ers a Taunt and they would be better at basically everything... The only thing they can't do is grab agro from me via taunt which would be neat against some elites...

The real fun thing is how tons of people are just to friggin dumb (sorry, there are no "nicer" words for this) to see the diffrence between a dual speccs (which will probably come) and ac-class changeing (which hoepfully never will even be considered). staggering. "Hi, i rolled Priest now i want to be a Rogue".. /whinewhinewhine...

So lang man in den Nahkampf muss um nen taktischen Vorteil zu holen gibt es KEINEN range sabo.

The second i got Vector i never used Kalyo againf or anything. Oh, i'm Concealment. Fight against Elite with Kalyo: 1: Kalyo tanks and keeps agro thanks to her taunt's until both are on CD. 2: Kalyo loses Agro and does **** DPS or dies and does no DPS at all. 3: I finish the Elite and revive Kalyo thinking how useless that ... is. Fight against Elite with Vector: 1: I hidden Strike/Shield and then "break" Agro so Vector gets it. 2: I "take" Agro from Vector before he dies. 3: Elite is dead and me and Vector are looking ******, being generally awesome. The DPS diffrence between Vector and Kalyo, at least the one I "felt", is ridiculous... All this probably plays out very diffrent when your running a healing-specc but as Conc i want my fights to be as short as possible and thats just where Vector (and Temple) shine.

1: Stop talking about 1on1 balance in a game that isn't about 1on1 pvp. 2: Stop talking about PvP-Balance as long as there is no "50 only" bracket.

Ahm... Nimm Säureklinge. Säuregranate gibt dir zwar etwas mehr AE-Schaden aber in allen anderen Situationen ist Säureklinge EXTREM viel ebsser. Wenn dir die Klinge aber nicht passt, warum versuchst dann nicht direkt voll Lethality?