Nope Sorc is fine, people who actually know how to play a sorc play them very well. You need to drop this unwarranted belief you have any idea what you are doing, you just made a fool of yourself with this thread. So you can deal against sorcerers just fine but you want a buff so you aren't as awful playing one? You are just bad, deal with it.

Really? These are minor compared to actual time sinks. How many days I spent grinding money in a f2p mmo just to enchant one piece of gear one level (just for it to fail and destory the item). How many weeks I spent grinding out bloods for several attempts at my hot heart of magic. How one level takes a solid 120h~ (2-shotting mobs higher level then my character). Played everquest? Mu Online? Maple story past 70 before 2006? Aion? Space cowboy? Linage? Diablo 2 *99 pre-1.10*? You: "I have to hold the W button for 30 seconds boo hoo" This game is faster to cap then Rift/aoc (which is faster then light speed) and you think its too much of a time sink? Really? Even the RNG bags are faster to get gear, what other game that has pvp gear allows you to get T2 gear FASTER then T1, and separating acess to t3(BM) with a very easy to obtain rank.

Roll empire?

so I can cover pulse people of cliffs...

Your chair squeaks

Holy ****! You already got 2 bm commendations? Crazy

huh? Tell that to my 9 offhands

Nope its fine. I would LOVE that system for Champion gear, I have 8 duplicates of my offhand alone, 6 chests, 3 armbraces, more implants then I can count, and still no gloves, mainhand, or the new relics What pisses me off Is I npced all the unassembled relics I kept getting only to find out the champion ones I got prior are turned into pve raid relics and I don't get 96 expertise. (I don't get anymore relics and centurion have less stats and no expertise

Keep people with bargain bin e machines from dying.

Maybe you should get a couple groups together and fight in Outlaws Den hurhurhuruhr

You must be new. Let me tell you two things, one pve players are always the majority, and two have you experienced games where hero stats are non-existent? You do know pvp was originally a fun distraction to slaying the dragon and saving the princess. Before it was just pve and players attacking other players, then someone said "Hey, lets add arenas, battlegrounds, pvp gear, ranks, and finally hero stats to give people something else to grind" Ta Daa! *rolls-eyes* Pve was all about Progression, PvP used to be about fun, competition, and ganking people you do not like. Play something older then WoW post WOTLK?

Huh? I usually do not raid but don't their scripted encounters get increasingly difficult? Players do not run around with 3.3 million HP. The only issue if you want to raid you should be avoiding pvp gear altogether since you gain no benefit for having 2 sets. It wouldn't effect me personally but your right for those who want to do both it wouldn't be fair

Flat out no. Why? I'll Explain Hero stats was a step in the wrong direction, your argument is pve raid gear should not be superior/on par with pvp gear is a good point but you do not need a overall stat (15% Damage/Healing/Mitigation) to fix it. It is just as easy to make pvp gear favorable over raid gear by adding better primary and secondary stats. Ex: PvP gear has a lot more cunning on an IA set suited for dps focused builds, while another provides better survivability, and a third for utility/hybrid not all 3 How hard is it to make them both equally accessible so those who want to pvp can gear, and those who pve can still be viable when they decide to. Drop this "I pvp for my gear so I demand to outclass anyone significantly who doesn't" attitude. When everyone is similar levels of expertise the stat is meaningless and it comes down to how well the player plays his class, for everyone else is left behind is fighting uphill Personally Hero stats just give pvp "superstars" an out for why they died, to save face. hurhur

Waste of money

Buahaha you play for the pvp? Go back to guild wars. Never played? Well you can have equal gear/skills at the start and can get right into the action! No? I've had terrible luck with bags, if you want you can have one of my spare chest pieces if I get one more I wont have anymore companions to give it too, but thats life Soo Tough F*:)king Sandwiches

Yup world of warcraft. You'd fit right in there with all the other whiny selfish brats.

Good operatives/scoundrels don't rely on the same crutches you do to succeed. Stop whining, either adapt or re-roll a sorc.

So? Why waste your time posting about it here? It took me 10 seconds to see social gear is skins rated @ light armor, do I need it? No. Should I care? No Okay let me try to understand why this bothers you. So you want the skins but you want to do them solo? All your alts 2x? If you have 50's you do not need groups to get your gear What, are you forcing yourself to group for gear you do not need? Tool

Format is very important, large unorganized walls of text are ignored. If you want to get your point across use proper grammar and keep it brief. Do not bother with Part 2. Seriously.

never seen a "tie" banner so it could be picked at random, even the objective scores are the same overall, who knows best to let it go

The way you do? Do not tell me why its bad/good its not what I'm really asking. Just why you do the things you do (this could apply to you or not it does not matter) I would like to ask the afkers/traders what are you going to do after you acquire your full battle master set? Why do you join pvp servers when you focus on pve and feel frustrated when attacked by other players? To pve players after you've soaked in the story, slayed the dragon and saved the princess what do you do? Why do some continue to arbitrarily limit themselves but continue to complain about those who don't?* *avoiding x because y is too cheap i.e "I don't use Biochem because the medpacks are too powerful"* How many of you have played Aion, rift, Age of Conan? Most of you might have played all 3 I mention them because they all had the same problems you are experiencing here but here we are "playing" it. All 4 games: Pvp = gear grind Not about competition/fun Pve = the ~I am a special snowflake~ syndrome (only you can make a difference but what you do makes no difference) tl:dr I did not enjoy the games but I still bought and played them, why? I have no clue

Humans like finding short cuts. Why run around for a few hours for a few kills when you can organize trades for great rewards? Does it make sense to trade for pvp gear for the purpose of pvping later? No, people will still do it tho

Yes you are going to fair terribly against someone with more gear then you, shocker. You are not forced to Queue, but you do so anyway and expect stellar results @ 1x? Laughable Great @ pvp? Hardly. You are not as good as you keep telling yourself you are. Go back to guild wars, you can be on par and ready to pvp with everyone instantly

Seriously. Stop queuing for war zones at extremely low levels, or at the very least do not complain about the disadvantages that brings. Do not expect bolster to make up for what you do not have. Hey you want to try out pvp? Want your 20 set at 20? great! Just stop f***ing whining Armor @ 30 is not needed for two reasons. 1) weapons are the only thing you should be upgrading first and the vendor has weapons from 14-48 (which is fine with the bolster system) 2) There is zero pvp stats on any armor for the 1-49 bracket, just use quest/pve drops/crafting(lol) to upgrade you don't have to have same level gear to be effective

What if TOR was a hamburger? It would be a Cold cheeseburger with no toppings You like cheeseburgers but where is the ketchup? mayo? mustard? To top it off its cold, its still good to eat but you don't enjoy it as much as you want to.