then please explain how i do more damage then my friend in force master gear. same spec. ticks higher damage. he even has more willpower :-) we tested on eachother he has full forcemaster i got full stalker. i tick 1500 each FL and he 1300 *tested on naked char on eachother*

believe it or not im rank 57 and i run in stalker set, since most of my casts are instant and the set bonus is just better, also the stats are equal or higher then force master, the accuracy is a nice thing aswell. also i dont really benifit that much from aclarity because as i said most of my spells are instant

Also a 50 sorc, who likes to pvp alot. and traded a smalla mount of damage in for alot of surfivability *still doing 550k dmg in warzones* http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#201ZcszrzRrhZcMcRsMz.1 the blind on shield saved me the jump of some sneaky stealther comming in on me alot of times. the root on overload is so nice to be able to get away cause they are stuck on the floor conduction is a point you dont wanna take, it looks good but doing the math it will show you that its not that good . 3000 dmg chain light *wich will be you biggest crit when you just got 50* 3% 90 dmg... see what i mean?

yes this is correct. but spread over a game were i sprint 40 :-) its 400 seconds

it counts as resistance trust me we tested :-) pve gear with simular stats just aclarity instead of accuracy, 1312 force lighting a tick with accuracy vs 1150 without accuracy need anymore?

full madness is terrible. full lighting is terrible. try getting chain lightning and wrath from both trees and pick your preferences. my self i pvp and pve in the same spec. http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#201ZcszrzRrhZcMcRsMz.1 i do far the most damage in every wz. 400-500k depending on how long the game goes on for i got 1500 willpower 70% critsurge 33% crit 110% accuracy people still debate over the need of accuracy in pvp. it is usefull it counters consular buffs :-) *10% resistance buff* wich is great and will make you win 1v1 sorc people also moan about madness being more mobile. but i doubt that very seriously since every time i crit *wich is all the time* i lose 10 seconds of my sprint timer so usually im sprinting all of the place. *force speed* also madness spec really wastes the use of wrath since the instand cast can only be used for crushing darkness and lighting strike. crushing darkness is nice but has a big cooldown. inbetween those procs you can poke out 2 chain lightnings a deathfield and a chain shock. wich most of that is instand. chain lighting crits for 6k with a chance to do 30% extra meaning it gets followed up by 2k thats 8k dmg in 1 instand cast,. dots are nice and all. but very annoying to put on everyone and if they have a decent healer it will get despelled Its all down to your preferences do you like to nuke down a person without having to kite and being able to just sprint away when he comes close. or will you prefer to slow/dot dot dot dot/ run dot dot dot dot. not dead yet... sigh resolve also full oh a 2 second root myself and most of my team mates i roll with in pvp roll my spec. since you nuke from a distance and the aoe on chain lighting sometimes just gets silly http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/3/screenshot2012011316191.jpg/ heres a screenshot of 3 days ago. didnt even use stims and adrenals there wouldve gotten to 600k then maybe also i advise for you to level up biochem for the stims and adrenals , get the power adrenal. you will crit like no tommorow hope this was a constructive post and that you learned maybe something from it

it helps alot in pvp trust me. specially against other sorcs. your willpower buff also grants you 10% elemental resistance. meaning that if u got 110% u still do all your damage against them

lightning is better then madness bumb! good night

bumb if you read your chat you wouldve known slacker

we are not at all easy to play. yes some players only spam force lightning but that wont get you anywhere. a good sorc kites needs to prioritise procs keep his dots running run heal cc. try that with you melee hack and slash char's press 1 2 3 4 5 , faceroll!

Pretty normal stats imo. specially if 50 and in good gear, i get those damage scores at lvl 40. i mean specially a huttball game is nothing to be proud of your damage. stand on higher ground and zap people. wich you did, cause looks like you got knocked off there, cant say you were bringing the ball cause then you wouldve won with equal scores

Yes there is diminishing retruns in this game thats whats your resolve bar is for, maybe you should start playing the game before you try to be witty with some cheap trolls. Glad toy aggree with sirokai go try his build and let us know what you think kid @sirokai. deathfield still a silly skill with not enough good things to use. it might be instant be in the time you pushed your keybind and hovered your mouse over him it costed you some time. and yes it is dodgeable people who jump continuesly wont get hit

you always use force slow anyway when kiting . yes the wirlwind can be nice as i said also in my guide. just preferences . and i prefer damage over 1 cc hence i added your build so people can choose i dont encounter much world pvp and when i did i kinda 1 shotted the companion he had dunno if it had bad gear or whatever we was both same level. guessing the comp had terribad gear. he was a consular who started casting lightning first -.- so he got a silence in his face and got turned over then he tryed to kite me wich is a very bad idea vs ranged classes with a sprint. this game really is kite unfriendly imo max range to avoid melee yes. but dont ever kite a ranged people it makes it just easier for the counter part to free cast on you line of sight is your friend ! pillars towers boxes whatever you can use, might cooldown your shield and a heal to get back at it! Adding that last part to the guide @ sirokai. if the other player was a healable class he shouldve dispelled his companion

@ sirokai added your opnions of crushing darkness to it . aggreed that it might be good to use when waiting on something else to cooldown @ hagen My build has plenty CC. even is has all the cc sirokais has just sirokais wirlwind is instand wich i think is not needed for myself since i dont like break on dmg. and the 2second stun makes more deminshing returns for when i want to use electrocute for cc instead lowers it to 2 secs wich will make u lose 1 second of electrocute total usage . im just saying more dmg = less kiting . every sorc needs to kite and run but sometimes its better to out damage someone faster. Wirlwind can still be cast afther elctrocute and you will be able to do 1 force lightning and a instant proc then cast it, plenty time cause when u did electro cute you ran further away from him would you really lose 30% dmg over a free cast? its not like we fly out of force power in 30 skills. by the time they are all death your are most likely on 50% force with my build if you went crazy . but you did do 5 more killing blows Edit" 33% conduction gives 3% wich stays on your from second 1 you attack till whe the game ends in victory also kiting is fun. but when facing more then 1 player there is not much kiting to be done with all the slows stuns knockbacks and roots blinds cripple's . since we are squishy as it is. dont see myself getting away from 3 players , 1 i manage 2 i manage 3 tomuch dmg and cc . and most classes have awesome gap closers that also stun . so running away from a player in this game usually means death. thats why i rather go for all or nothing if i get jumped by a gang might aswell try to get 1 or 2 down with me. OW i made a screenshot of me 1 shotting 4 people *they were 30% hp* with recklesness and chainlightning i will post that later today :-) good fun

@sirokai Yes thats a more nice post Forceligthing is channeled and with alot of aclarity and your affliction proc. under 1 second hard to interrupt and with the talent 75% resistant to interrupts. . lightning however is more of a cast only does dmg on end of the spell. force light starts when its activated so you did dmg no matter what. If you use proc on crushing darkness you didnd use chain lightning, now if it had a slow effect id say use it. but it doesnt also the dot is dispellable by most classes wich is not done yet but they will do. and casting a 2.5 sec spell closed your kiting gap. Yes healing really hurts your pool. thats why i went for the reduction instead of bigger pool. im guessing *no fact* you will eventually spend less force using this then just having a bigger pool. yep cc is importand tho i kinda dislike wirlwind in pvp since it heals my target aswell. could use polarity to cast wirlwind on fresh target then its super quick aswell. but just dont like it. and the 2 second stun is dimished very badly in pvp. when broken eary wich happens to me tomuch by other players.. like i said. prefer the damage over the chance of 2 free spells. usually when your out of force in pvp you shouldve bin dead i takes me way to long already to get OOF *out of force* Did you see i added your build to my guide? made my own description now fill in your own if you like ill edit it it is sniping cause you try to stay out of range, sniping means strong damage . as they tend to headshot people :-) and the only extra controll it has is wirlwind wich is imo not the best cc to use in pvp wasting a root and a stun dimishing return for electrocute and overload seems silly to me but still viable yes. it can be very good if facing 2 players at once tho the duration is so short in pvp and the stun only goes off when broken early so kinda dislike it. i did use it alot in huttball pvp to cc players above a fire pit good fun . its an extra stun but not for kiting since when you use it the player heals -.- like sheep in wow so also in 2v2 if you face 2 and both are halve hp would you use wirlwind? get yourself to 25% hp and the other to 100% hp while you killed 1 and the other is now stronger then when he came?. id rather force lightning overload chain lightnin them hoping they both die all or nothing!

keep posting Your builds, with explainations ofc ill add them to the list. make a small description how you think yours works For example! Sustained dps! surfivability and dot based *just an exemple* Quick burst, glasscannon! *wich would be full lightning spec*

hence i went for the cost reduction instead 3% tops a 100 afther 20 skills wich we do in rapid succesion, also makes your heals cheaper and they are pretty expansive to cast, found it working better. i can keep force by just using force lightning the 100% 1 % fill when you use it is great i sometimes gain more then i lose

First of all. try to be nicer its a guide . as it says guide! not facts guide lines to help new players something you should understand if you claim others to be terrible. try to edit your post to make it more friendly so new players wont be scared of the forums cause of people that talk like you just did m8. its a tip not an assault deathfield is optional altho the 100 health from deathfield wasting a global cooldown where you couldve done a force lightning and a chain lightning , would be more dmg. + less skillshot needed deathfield can me even if its isntand dodged if a player moves fast or jumps also its not that good damage, when you dont have the upgrades in madness, 2k at best, chain lightning tops that easy. specially when forked. check other hybrid guides they all take the forked because i crit 4k cause of that and you wont without you claim my spec is terrible , its almost identical to yours a guide is meant to be a guideline not a cookiecutter build. everyon has his preferences As soon as you start casting lightning strike you will have my 6 second lightning lockout on your head. why start with a cast make yourself vurnarable to interrupts Yes crushing darkness is a waste of time, atleast if you comment try and be less condecending you sound like a wanna be elisist. 100 force for what? your not running out of force anyway... waste of points eem forked lighting adds 30% dmg to your chain lightning . and you say im terrible? please troll go away. and thats your biggest damage nuke. the effusion is nice. but usually i dont even need my sprint again and its force reduction is not needed ive seriously attacked an unkillable mob for 20 minutes without going under 70% force so really no need. +its RNG crit based not something you want to depend on in pvp . luck < skill... and 2 free skills is nice, but not needed if you do 30% more damage, rather sooner dead then having to cast 2 more spells to kill 30% chance is alot. 1 in 3 . its RNG but better then waiting for your crit to get a free cast. The spire. as i said range is nice. but 5 yards is 2 steps in this game. and it does only work on chain and lightning strike . so again you need to be casting for it something you want to avoid in pvp . cast bar = silence, thats why we use force lightning since the talents make it so its not interuptable anyway thanks for your toughts ill ad your link to the list for people who wanna try your build instead.

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Hi all, This is how i play my sith inquisorc!!! Im a lvl 40 atm *will be changed when i lvl up* and atm with this spec I perform pretty good in pvp, I will not say we are OP because there is plenty counters to us but i wont tell you those because they might be looking Open to suggestions keep it clean keep it nice Reserved a spot for maybe later extra info or answers to your questions wich were a good addition to this thread, main reason i posted this because i was tired of people whispering me afther games what my spec was and what i did. ENJOY! *Disclaimer* incomming crit wall of text , Op not responsible for Typos, Dizzyness, Flamewars, trolls, and other unpleasant outcomes! rotation. Affliction -> force lightning till proc -> chain lightning -force lightning -lighning strike if proc chain lightning otherwise force lightning again. rince and repeat please do not take parasitism it does nothing for you, crushing darkness mediocre dmg with mediocre dot. about 1-2k total when used. can be used in between chainlighting cooldowns if target is far away and still walking to you so u can just get in that extra bit of dps before he reaches you *if he ever does* This game really is kite unfriendly imo max range to avoid melee yes. but dont ever kite a ranged class it makes it just easier for the counter part to free cast on you use side strafe instead of walking backwards move in arcs. do not let your back face the other person then you can not cast! line of sight is your friend ! pillars towers boxes whatever you can use, might cooldown your shield and a heal to get back at it! also posting alternations on my build , or your complete fresh one. sometimes other things work better for other people. try to experiment yourself and dont be a elitist about it share with us. and make the community better Esca's build Very High burst Quick kills low force cost Decent surfivabilty and cc. kite and win or good location and explode! My favorite spec Sirokais build sirokais build focusses more on force maintenance and sniping, with strong damage from a distance. And kiting but less bursty, 1 extra cc for if you face multiple players against you instand wirlwind 1 and kill the other but maybe you will kill someone before he reaches you! sirokais favorite spec Madness 16 points total ----------------- calsify 3 points . obviously because you want more dmg from your main bread and butter skill. deiance 1 point, 2% dmg reduction you need the point and its the best choice Will of the sith 3 points willpower = dmg nuff said Chain shock 3 points , You use this as a finisher for that 1 % or if you need to wait , a global cooldown for your chain lightning proc.and that extra shock can crit aswell and does decent dmg Efficacy 3 points this will make sure you dont need to waste points in extra force you wont run out and no pushback from your main skill is aweseome Madness, No cooldown on mainskill its why its your main skill Wrath , 30% chance to do instand casts on any activate time skill.. 3 second chain lightnings become instant ! woop woop Lightning 25 points ------------------------ electric Induction 3 points, now you will never run out of force for sure. Convection 3 points, 6% extra damage from your nuke's that will bring them down faster Exsanguinate, 2 points longer affliction more chance on procs. lighting barrier 2 points I think this one is very good cause the barrier standard is quite low in absorb and that extra 20% gives you just that edge Suppresion, 2 points This might look useless but the 6 second lockout *silence* makes you win battles helps a ton vs casters.the cd reduction on wirlwind nice for pve redo your ww before hes out Chain lightning!!!!, 1 point This is your highest damage skill. crits up to 4k in pvp very good nuke, just use when procced Lightning barrage, 2 points affliction crits *happens alot* 100% chance to make your main skill cast super fast . wich will do more dmg and give you chance on quick procs. Electric Bindings ,2 points OMG i love this specially in hut ball. prefents them from chasing you or wasting there cooldowns on being rooted , also a life saver in pve vs melee Lightning storm, 1 pointmainly because it enables you to spam chain lightning more. backlash, 2 points So afther you stunned them, rooted them they reach you and kill your 20% stronger barrier you blind them ok you escaped and your running speed is back from cooldown SCORE!. Polarity shift 1 point, immagine your procced affliction buff on forcestorm with this, it will be a 0.5 second force storm cast thats 3k dmg in no time. Forked lightning 3 points , Use the fork! as the jedi master said in futurama. well sith listened and we do now 30% dmg ontop of your chain lightning this is a destroyer for groups. Conduction,1 point its almost a passive buff since it lasts 30 seconds 3% extra damage because we can. pro's and cons of this build pro's Good damage output and your more slippery then a huttball itself tons of cc wich dont suffer from eachothers diminishing returns a nice cooldown to get that extra speed on your casts and just get that extra dmg in that wins it. big silence so you can control that pesky healer that keeps there team alive Cons. hard to get the rotation right since its more of a priority system then a rotation. will u wait that 0.1 second on chain lightning instant or will you blass a lightning strike No extra healing. wich could be handy in some situations , alto i prefer healers to heal no instand wirlwind , kinda like that 1 from the madness tree for pve specially but meh. we get cooldown on it wich makes it ok. biggest con. Just not enough points to also get Reverberating force wouldve bin nice to get that 50% crit dmg. then again its crit damage and cant count on crits , conclusion, steady damage build with high spikes when needed. dont be tempted to just keep spamming that force lightning button would be nice if we had a addon system to alert you chainlightning is ready or something overal you are not easy to take down 1v1 2v1 , but when they gang up ofc you die but that happens to all of us. Switchable talents" Lightning effusion if you want that sprint to be of cooldown faster, again its RNG and kinda like dependable stats better lightning spire. meh the extra range isnt for all skills, kinda annoying if they go out of range of your forcestorm . just chase them and stun them easier. Haunted Dreamsmakes your wirlwind instand and adds a stun if broken premature. this can save your live in many situations its instand and fast for those who like to have just that extra controll over the other player Thanks for reading, maybe the fork be with you! so you can poke there eyes out! If you like it vote for sticky!

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