Guild SM Ravagers via the Group Finder we are missing one healer so I ask on the fleet and a Sage whispers me almost instantly, they join and we enter. The first three bosses go ok though I do notice that there is no Salvation, Healing Trance or Wandering Mend. We get to Master and Blaster, we have a DwT as the second tank so quite a lot of healing is going to be needed when Master spawns, first pull is a disaster mainly my fault due to not being fast enough on healing the DwT. Second pull I say I will focus on the DwT with my commando healer if the sage can keep the rest of the group up which shouldn't be too hard, pretty much as soon as master spawns raid members start dying and we wipe. I have called the Sage out on the above after the first wipe to which they reply that I need to look closer so I decide to put them on focus target and that is when I see all they are doing is spam casting Deliverance nothing else when it is on cooldown there is an occasional Benevolence but no Salvation or Healing Trance and I think I saw maybe two Walking Mend the whole fight. I call them out again and am told replace me then and Sage proceeds to leave group, I whisper and tell them I had them on focus target and could see exactly what they were doing or not doing, the reply 'you are a *obscenity* idiot' and then I am placed on ignore. Got a guilde healer in and cleared it and the last boss first time.

'The necro is real in this one' You do realise this thread is almost two years old, I swear these people trawl the forums to see which threads are the oldest for them to necro

You need to be level 50+, level 55 is best but if you are above 50 the game will bolster your stats to 55 when you go to The Western Shelf. You can do all the missions expect Xenoanalyst II the Operations Boss.

I have been doing the Gree dailies on my Sentinel, I play her in Focus Spec for dailies as it's easier to kill groups of mobs. I know it's not the same as say a Sage or Commando/Vanguard AoE but the potential is there for a PvP flagged player to jump into my Force Sweeps if they worked out my rotation, It hasn't happened yet, If I see flagged players I just watch what they are doing and take extra care not to hit them. The majority just want to do their quests and not fight other players, true there is the odd ganker but they are rare.

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Yeh your right sorry, it's the damage redirect that is PvP only.

A further note to this is that the reduction to incoming damage only applies in PvP, It has no effect in PvE at all only the threat reduction does. The tooltip states incoming damage from enemy players meaning this does not apply to mobs. As stated there are certain situations when the Healer should be guarded in PvE but it is rare and I can only think of two currently and both are specific phases of specific bosses, both are in Operations. In Flashpoints the guard should always be on the DPS most likely to pull agro. I 'm currently leveling a Operative Healer, doing a lot of Flashpoints with him and have had Tanks guard me in Flashpoints, I simply click the guard off as it just annoys me and I can heal through any damage I take anyway. Might want to update the guide OP to reflect our comments.

Makes a change from the Imps dominating in Normal Warzones.

Lol 'Poor Performance' You didn't pull agro once, if you say you did your talking rubbish. Anyway this is my last comment on the subject. Have fun.

I don't know why you were taking damage but it certainly wasn't from the boss, I guess you were standing in the red circles from the adds. If you have an Ops team waiting for you why were you doing a HM FP? You could have simply bailed out saying you had an Op to do. On the subject of CCs. Yes the CC was broken by the tank as both of the turrets can be tanked, what does it matter if it's the tank that breaks the CC, the only real problem is when DPS break it, if the tank breaks it then tanks the broken CC there is no problem, after it was CCed the third time it was a kind of whatever from the tank as there is no real need for CCs there. When we said we are doing the bonus you didn't voice and objection to it so that tells me that you are ok with it. I'm not gonna argue about it anymore as I'm frankly tired of it, lets just agree to disagree and move on.

Calling BS on this one, It was nothing like you tell it. It seemed like you were in a mad rush to do the FP, What is the mad rush to finish the FP. You didn't mention CCs at all and we do know about the shortcut just decided not to use it which seemed to upset you a little, the reason for not using the shortcut is to get enough mobs for the bonus boss which it seems you didn't want to do even when your guilde needed gear from it, very inconsiderate also the pause was what 2 secs max just because there is no rush to steam roll through the FP and it wasn't before every group of mobs. You pulled agro through guard on the first boss, now you are talking through your backside. You did not pull agro on any boss in the FP that is utter rubbish. Your guilde was even whispered to my healer guilde that she did not feel the same way as you. So if anyone was the weirdo in that FP it was you and not us.

My guess is the Op got owned in a PvP match by a Focus/Rage Sentinel/Marauder and felt the need to come on here and call them noobs.

I think it sounds as if he is constipated but that's just me and I'm a bit weird

Pity your a filthy Imp Our guild would have been quite happy to help you out.

Both of the above guilds are good but why not check out Colours. I have linked both our website and recruitment post below Website: http://www.coloursswtor.enjin.com Recruitment Post: http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?p=6785548 Regards

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Why in the name of all sanity does your main tank have Alacrity enhancements and why are you giving him alacrity adrenals. Alacrity is totally useless for tanks. The gear that you get from the vendors is very badly itemised, Players should be optimising their gear and not using it straight from the vendor, Tanks should be stacking Absorb>Shield>Defence>Endurance in that order Alacrity has no place in tank gear, I think that may be your problem, squishy tank.

When the adds appear you are not supposed to simply attack them, the health that they have is more than most operation bosses and would take forever to kill with a 4 man group. The way the fight works is when the adds come up, Ikoral will cast lightning at a player, that player needs to run so that they are behind the add while the others interrupt the shield cast, once this is done Ikoral will kill the add with his lightning. Another mechanic to this fight is Ancient Power when Ikoral gains this buff the tank needs to gather a few of the red fire orbs or they will take a lot of damage for Ikoral. The fight is therefore not bugged you were just not playing the mechanics properly. Try using the tactics above and see how it goes. Good Luck.

Speak for yourself, I enjoy the challenge of these hardmodes and have both Tanked and Healed them, they are not overly hard though that was with a guild group, Pugs are a different story as it's hit and miss. I hope they do not nerf them.

Firstly welcome back. Warhero gear now has no expertise so it's basically PvE gear now, it should be more than sufficient to get you through the Makeb storyline and the new Makeb and GSI Dailies, this will give you Basic Comms which you can use to get 66 mods for your gear which in turn will allow you to do 55 HM Flashpoints and Story Mode Ops, those will give you 69 modded gear and Arkanian Tokens which allow you to do Hard Mode Ops which drop 72 modded gear and Underworld Tokens. You can probably skip the Classic Comm stage due to your Warhero gear. Good luck, I hope you enjoy your return to the game. P.S If you are looking for a guild who is currently running through HM Flashpoints and SM Ops and preparing for HM Ops please get in touch either via PM on this site or the guild website linked in my signature.

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If you don't like the game, don't play simple. Many people do like the game and enjoy playing it. So the game should be shut down because you don't like it that is a little selfish don't you think?

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Way to go......Necro. This thread is over a year and a half old lol