I'm not sure how you could think SWTOR is more difficult actually. Both mmos have good and bad points, but lets face it, in SWTOR you can play classes that can root, stun and damage enemies all with the push of one button. Or classes that have abilities to kill enemies in one channeled skill. I have never actually seen that in any mmo. Granted some mmos drag out combat wayyyyy to long. But SWTOR combat on some classes requires a maximum of one or two abilities to literally level from 1-55. That alone tells you that they set out to make SWTOR one of the easiest mmos to date to play.

Ok I think we are peeling back the layers on this. So to break it down. You watched a sample of videos, each from a different year and expansion combination. And the videos of course were from the point of view of the same classes throughout the samples to know that classes would be 'dumbed down', unless of course you aren't saying that this is specific to classes. In which case there was some other criteria which would have to exist in all of the videos to show enough of a sample to gather across a time line to come to the conclusion that game play degradation did in fact happen? If not, can you let us know your method please? Have to ask as well, have you gotten over your fear of criticism to give us your good list? Trust me, if you went through all of the trouble listed above to create an accurate test set, I am positive there will be players here ready to subscribe to your news letter.

No it just proves your blowing smoke now. You mean to tell me you spend hours of your life watching videos and twitch streams of random people you don't know, playing a game that you don't play and don't like?

No I saw that part, it just reaffirms more that your opinion is completely based off of someone else's experience. You watched videos made by other people showing you what they wanted to show you and possible added comments stating their opinions. That is what your basing your opinion on.

Ok this just proved my other point. Your entire opinion is based on things others TOLD you.

Obviously still you, you haven't named one yet, and you just re-affirmed exactly what I said here. You just said again your afraid of your opinion being criticized so you wont give one.

So you just confirmed what I said. That you are too scared to give an opinion because it will be criticized. There's nothing worse than someone who criticizes others opinions and in fact holds no real opinions of their own. Stop repeating what you read/hear others say and get an opinion of your own. Then take a stand on it for crying out loud.

Actually these are all answers someone gives who's afraid to give their own opinion because they fear having their opinion criticized. So give us just one.

Which are?

Alright Mr. Mensa, let's hear your brilliant list of 'good' mmos. Ready, Go! (This should be rich)

And oddly they have millions of subscribers still after all these years, and is one of the last remaining MMOs on the market which hasn't been forced to move towards a Free to Play model to support their game. I'll bet you think Amazon is just some crappy online shopping portal that no one likes either eh?

So it has nothing to do with the fact that the game is a good game, and brings a lot to the table for the players eh? Some people will argue anything just to not admit to something.

This is where innovation has to come in. What your offering has to have enough of it's own draw to players, and ability to hold players attention to retain customers. The market is vastly different from where it was when WOW came around. Personally I think Bioware isn't playing into its innovations and marketing them as well as they could. For me, the voice acting is cool, but for an MMO not a retaining feature if you ask me. But take something like Adaptive armor. Some might claim it's a cash grab. Whether you follow that line of thinking or not, it's hard not to admit that it's not a great innovative feature. It's without a doubt better than what WOW has to offer, and a true feature that gamers have wanted in MMOs for years. It breaks the mold from having to look like your wearing rags at level 1 compared to wearing the shiny gold suit of armor at level whatever. They need to bring more things like this to the table, and they quite possibly will.

How do you think they got all those subs though?

Not to mention that Wow was created without cross realm ability. So at some point they bit the bullet and put the time into creating a feature the play-base at that time wanted. Could they have thought forward enough to create a code base that allowed for adding this without a huge amount of rework? Possibly, but not likely.

This person gets it.

Look at that certain mining/crafting game. It was developed by an Indie company, created rather recently, and is impossible to argue that it's not hugely successful. Reason being, they brought innovation to the table. If your not thinking ahead of the curve in technology, your getting left behind.

You seem awfully defensive. It doesn't appear that you can actually put up with a real argument. The contradictions are there. But it's ok. You can keep living in your world filled with you.

Yes but he's an imp, so there's a certain expectation that the post will be negative towards others. So it goes more unnoticed.

Off topic but now I'm confused. I thought you claimed class composition made no difference.

Yes its obvious that your not worked up

You sure are worked up over this.

No it's about people like yourself, read your post, you sound like a child. Which is odd because obviously children don't have beards.

I'm glad you had lots of friends to carry you.

You really are making yourself sound like a fool now. Go back and read over the forums and understand the history of the game and the evolution of classes.