4 k I can belive, but even that is just lucky RNG on crit. above 4 k DPS means they have some DM or 186 gear.

I guarantee you Narci could top any of the silly rankings form the first page. 3.3 k DPS on Draxus - I can do that easly on Powertech AP if i AoE like crazy, and I hear he can do 4k DPS here. Nefra - I score 3,5 k DPS there without even trying ! Maybe i am looking at bad leaderboards but the numbers there are silly - every decent player can score top 5 there anytime !

those scores on the first page are standiing ranking ? Beoceuse yesturday on Grob'trock NiM 16 man i scored 5 000 DPS quite easly ... With Powertech Advanced Proto. not even single 186 mod on me ... I would submit it if we won ;p but we died in enrage cos a lot of ppl died early. But still i belive that even 6 k DPS is achiveable here is you are godlike AoEer. And btw - We use Parsec not Tor Parse in our guild (Honour) - is that why the diffrence in numbers ? Heh I see Narci is here as well ;]

whats with this thread ? Highest DPS Vanguard/Powertech 3750 ? I know ppl who do 4200 Is that old thread or something ?

I am Powertech on Advanced Prototype build And i do all HM easy. I also do NiM with my guild and almost never drop below 3rd DPS. On Bosses Like Grob'trok or Draxus I am almost alwyas 1st DPS. AP is awesome Burst Mobility and AoE. Pyro is good on bosses like Nefra. It is diffulct Clas to play as DPS beocuse Heat is far worst of Resource in game to manage, and you lack jump move to close distance quickly - so on some bosses that require you to switch targets a lot and run it migfht be difficult to catch up with range DPSes. BTW I think Powertech is the best DPS to kite Raptus.

ok - i must have been unlucky now it was 3650 without super huge crit scores. Still i like my Ap better is reliable always, has awesome burst and AoE. NOt to mention 15% speed increase wi\ch is a god send in NiM. (BTW i jsut cleared Draxus NiM yesturday ;] ) PS I just noticed RS is Ranged damage not Tech ...

And what is your score on Dummy then ? Suprisingly enough - I score about the smae with Ap and Pyrotech on Dummy ... I have 30% crit chance with Coordination buff. and My score on dummy is arround 3400 on both AP and Pyro. I am full 180 withgout singe 186 mod yet. Someone told me that it is possible to score arround 3800 with Pyroi now with Dread Forged gear, but i find that hard to belive. My rotation are and % are about the same as in all guides exept of luky Rail shot crits wich are only arround 30 % for me ... Is it all RNG ? how much shyould I score on Dummy with full 180 with Pyrotech build without super lucky crit rate ?

ok thx - I just doubted that jsut those 2 cahnges would change so much the damage dealt Are there any changes in gearing or rotation tactics after this change ?

Pyrotech (Powertech) Power Bracer now increases the damage of periodic elemental damage by 35% in addition to its other effects. Rapid Venting has been replaced by Critical Venting. Critical Venting increases Critical Hit chance by 1/2 percent, and reduces the cooldown of Vent Heat and Thermal Sensor by 15/30 seconds. 2.8 patch notes Is that the improvement you talked about ? just this 2 improvements will skyroket the DPS by 15% ? to 3900 on dummy in 180 gear ?

If you read the link "bad teacher" provided you would notice it is a reward from Tatooine bonus series ... And I have it on my Jugg.

Good stuff ;] Good job

again ... read read read I said it before. OFC ppl enjoy playing as F2Pers - its not like someone forces them to play. I dont deny the enjoyment. I question the eficeincy of beeing a F2P for a long time. "People still enjoy eating Icecream worth 1$ they bought for 5$." Dont make me quote myself again.

Good observation there. And as usual the true case is mixture of both A and B. The game as it is for F2P is too restricted to be valuable to new players - thats why many leave it, those who stay become subscribers in most cases. And this is how it should be. Bioware should ofc make an effort to increase percentage of ppl who convert to Sub. And they do with things like early access and giveaways for subscribers.

Lol pure damagogy no logic arguments. I dont criticize them - lol - like that would even matter - I am only pointing out how obviously stupid is to be F2P for prolonged time IF you are spending a lot of time on this game. This is proven by my post - and you are only playing a role of blind "protector of the week". Belive me 8$ in my coutry is way more than 15$ in USA. And why dont you use cost of a 6 month sub - cause it is lot cheaper - and we are talking about ppl playing this game for a long time not month or 2. Lol and picking at my education (without single argument why would it be lacking) and personal attacks directly at me are totaly valid point in that discusion ! And about you final words ! NO I am not talking about F2P peaople in general - I dont know if they are stupid or not - most of society is tho, so there is strong possibility that many F2Pers are indeed stupid. But I neighter try to prove that nor I have intention to. And ofending ppl I dont know is hardly thrilling enough to be my point. Your failure to understand that is lamentable. I mearly stated that staying as active F2P for prolonged time is stupid - the action is, not the person ! And contrary to your pittifull attempt to subvert what i said - my statements were well thought out and suported with rational analisis. While your words are hollow, Your whole point was to boost your ego - to jump in defence of something you feel is right, but you dont understand why. PPL are free to do what they want - YES YES YES - they can eat poo and delight how delicious it is ! Pardon me for telling them they could eat ham instead. And yes - I enjoyed this conversation - decline of humankind never cease to amuse me.

Lol I love how ppl always reject the harsh truth,and prefer to life in false sense of security. What I said before is just a fact - you can still do otherwise but it is counter productive. Staying in the game for prolonged time without sub is jsut stupid for the reason I allready mentioned. And dont give me BS about not beeing agle to find a job or naything . Like you need a job at all to get 8$ a month. There are numerous small works you can do for that sort of money, seasonal works etc. Most kids allowances are way above that this days. If you wish to spend that money on smoking and drinking its your call but it only proves how bad organised you are. When you play as F2P you waste 2x much time as sub to get the same thing, not to mention how much flustrating that is. And btw if you check statistics you will noticed that average F2P player still spends a lot of money on unlocks etc. Simple math will tell you the truth. Option 1 You can play for 1000 hours as F2P to get - 1000X* Option 2 or you can play 500 hours as sub to get - 1000X* work/ do small jobs to get money for 200 hours to pay fr the sub and still have additional money left and you have 300 hours of free time more ! * X - a fictional value of progress you make in game (ie how much you achived playig the game) U loose as F2P everytime ! Money + Free time + flustration. Its simple mathmatics .... And plz dont make up extreame examples jsut to prove me wrong - my thesis aplyies to general mayority, weird cases dont prove anything. And ofc - people who will pick option 1 can still have fun. Like ppl still enjoy eating Icecream worth 1 $ they bought for 5$. Its just they were foolish. I still expect ppl to object to what i said - after all ppl this days have big problem thinking logicly ... But its not my problem do what you want - just dont beg and exploit subbed ppl to boost you since you are "poor". (and yeah - my words are harsh and merciless - but they must be - I dont mean to offend F2P ppl just show them how pointless that is. Everyone have fun whatever you do. )