lol sorry didn't read the sig. i might not be speaking for everybody(not a wow player here) but being an op from beta i got in the habit because i kept getting the red text telling me i wasn't behind my target and the back and forth strafing alleviated the majority of the annoying text (to be honest i haven't tried not doing it since:o). it would be nice to get out of the habit cause i don't like running around like i'm having a seizure every time i'm fighting somebody lol its good to see more and more concealment ops (just too bad we have to be well geared to be equals with classes that are good out of the box) keep up the good fight. btw the answer to fixing this issue would be to nerf operatives

we stealthy types change direction so often because (at least for ops) our damaging moves require us to be behind the target and with the server client sync the way it is, just because we are behind them on our screen does not mean we are behind them on the server. the moving back and forth allows us the required criteria to perform the desired backstab/hiddenstrike or what have you. now i do admit we also do this on moves that don't require us to be behind you but that's because once we get in the habit it kinda becomes part of the rotation:o

respec to vengeance and have your way with him. since most of vengeance damage is white damage it tears right through their resilience from my experience most sin/shadows run from vengeance jugs

there really isn't much choice when it comes to a hybrid spec for ops // if you do go hybrid the only useful one would be heals/lethality now as to the actual build/talents you spec into depend on weather you are doing pve or pvp but a decent one for self survivability / ok damage is 13/3/25 or 18/2/21 this way you get the hot in the med tree and cull in the lethality tree // it works fairly nicely since you get ta from your main heal and if you use the first build you get more defensive ability/energy management and if you use the second one you get more opportunity for ta procs/damage from cull.... both can be fun but you excel at nothing

if you do not have the 9% cunning increase you need to take out a point somewhere in your concealment tree so you can put 3 points in the med tree for that 9% it stacks up especially when you add augments to your gear with cunning augments // if you already have the 9% cunning boost then i would go for the extra damage to shiv in the lethality tree or as the previous poster said the tactical advantage (being concealment spec you are poisoning your targets with acid blade so you can use lacerate or stim boost more often)

"If my dot on you would stay and it would bring you back out all of the time great, but a lot of the time it is dumping the dots as well considering that I have had someone completely dotted up and giving me health they stealth and suddenly nothing. Guys that is OP, especially if it isnt a long cool down ability" its not the stealth ability that is removing your dots. All smart ops either cleanse the dots before entering stealth (cause they can cleanse most dots) or use their dodge ability that removes the dots as they enter stealth. every time this happens to you that op has blown his 2 most valuable defensive cool downs in one go, and if he gets caught via random aoe or something it usually winds up a dead op.

so i have been playing around with my mara and decided to try something a little different 13/28/0 i am also using the juyo stance for the 100% crit on bleeds through berserk my reasoning behind it was to get deadly saber some baby heals and make my dots more effective and still have the roots and 100% armor debuff from gore its been pretty fun hardest thing is to manage the rage just wondering if anybody else has tried this spec or something similar (its fun watching all the numbers from my bleeds with the big hits from ravage after gore) it aso seems to confuse people since i am juyo and the dots start rolling they dont seem to hit me with a stun or knock back when i use gore+ravage since they assume i am pure annihilation spec i'm still working on it and is a lot of fun i just don't know if i am missing out with massacre (i like the move but the animation is so long that i feel it almost hinders my dps and with the 30% speed buff from predation i found when i am pure carnage almost never use berserk)

6/10 like the first name but your legacy name is a nasty color lol had to come on here and put up my shadows name Bates Constantly currently using the Master title

I find the easiest way to get a smash off is do the build up on one target and then obliterate or force leap to the largest cluster most of the time they dont even see you have joined the scrum and get a decent smash on them all

body type 1 for a immortal spec jug you know you want to

The fat man was showing as the only server offline and now its not even on the status page.... pop hasnt over the top since d3 came out.... so where did the Fatman go?

^^ this made me laugh. isnt that the exact reason they nerfed ops to the ground?

/signed sign me up this is an awesome and well thought out idea. amazing things can be done with this format

another thing i thought might be appropriate here my concealment op did not break the 2.5k damage medal till level 30ish and i got it a with stim+relic+adrenal (fully modded orange gear for my level plus a purple earpiece and blue implants so it wasnt a gear issue). my gunslinger and my shadow both got that medal @ lvl 10 so to say that the ops opener pre 50 is still ok is basically bs since you have to have a cunning stim+power or surge relic+ power adrenal to get a 2.9k crit. i love playing my op but after playing around with the other stealth class and the opposite advanced class i could have chosen it just gets depressing picking off what others have left for dead. But since ops can still pick off those that are left for dead i guess this means ops need another nerf. cant have them doing that now can we

i say make leath for ops have the same range as leath for snipers make them both 30 m (ie cull weakening blast) that one change would make the spec viable since you wouldnt have to get within 10m to do any decent damage imho

watched the video and found it to be some what entertaining. i am just curious why you keep calling it a pug when you are clearly in a 3 man premade group? not sure about the other 5 people in the match wasnt waching that closely but a 3 man premade + 5 pugs is still better than 8 pug. 1 man shy of a full queable premade is still premade in my book but again i enjoyed the vid thanks for posting

your right it is a sad state of affairs that they so nerfed the concealment spec but the other choices are use a gimp leath spec (gimped because cull and weakening blast are on 10 m as a op and on 30 or 35 m as a sniper) or a heal spec lethality if they made cull and weaken blast both 30 m like it is with a sniper it would be completely viable but as it is now leath is gimped heal spec at the moment some crazy hots and free heals via ta's but healing is so boring in pvp and with the new ttk makes healing almost pointless so i still run my concealment spec simply because i like staby staby lol with that said they better nerf ops again cant have them ops stun locking the half dead people you know h

snipers i love killing me some snipers (of course i'm one of them ops /shadows lol)

I guess you missed the part about moving on (i dont chase after somebody that is 30m away not worth my time hence the force cloak to get out of combat. Now not all sorcs have a mezz bubble, oh wait you thought i was talking about you how sweet btw in a dynamic pvp the ones that do have a mezz bubble tend to run right into somebody that sees they have already been hurt and open up on them. now of course based on your constant epeen self stroking replies i think it is safe to assume your one of those people that runs away from everybody so you can lick your wounds basically taking you out of the fight almost as effectively as killing you would have (considering pvp is an objective oriented) my jobs done and i didnt have to kill you

I'm going to stay out of the epeen stroking just thought i would add a little about the ops part of this. an op has more than 3 30m options snipe and explosive probe are considered ia moves and not sniper/op moves both advanced classes have them and any op worth their salt will employ explosive probe when they attack. most often its (concealment) acid blade+relic+stim+adrenail hidden strike back stab after those moves usually have an option here either sever tendon or debilitate (i tend to go for sever tendon to root them for 2 sec it usaaly kills thier force speed as well) shiv lacerate debilitate backstab ect ect ect. now if they do get away or timming is off /mezzed ect acid blade+relic+stim+adrenail hidden strike back stab dart 30m explosive probe 30m frag 30m snipe 30m after the snipe i usually force cloak and either move on are come back at them depending on weather or not somebody decided to kill the mostly dead sage/sorc

appears to have been a bug now its working again

ok so in the new one void star and civil war i cannot use sever tendon get a red pistol icon saying i'm in combat but for some reason the same thing didnt pop in hut ball????? sent a bug report maybe hopefully a bug:confused:

looks like it was just a bug now its working fine after reload of game

why dont you read the snide remarks she posted first before pipping up i was being civil before she continued to be snide and condescending // i edited one post to remove my snide response immediately after posting it to stay civi.l call low blow all you want but 2 jobs and a kid leaves either the kid being ignored or not sleeping (unless the 2 jobs are part time in which case thats the same as 1 full time) btw kade i have nothing against you just annoyed at bioware and i would much rather have a free month then a dumb pet that does nothing.

glad to hear you ignore your kid to play swtor. your missing the point its not about getting to 50 (this is something that can be done in 3 days by you space bar heroes). the point of the post is they called people with level 50's their most valued customers. the way it has be presented is a complete failure. again my money is just as good as your money. the fact that i havent level my 47 shadow to level 50 has nothing to do with me not being able to level to 50 it was a choice to wait for my friends to catch up so we could continue to pvp together.