Ugh I just tried this and I give up. WAY too many people camping out to compete with to get the Shady Characters. I'll note that this is on Harbinger one of the most populated servers in the evening at peak time but still, my idea of fun is not trying unsuccessfully to find a spot where NPCs spawn because other people are already there camped out hogging them all.

I hope you guys will do the opposite when considering Gunslinger questions. I'm a PvE exclusive player here and want to make sure our concerns get represented since our rep is apparently primarily PvP.

http://www.swtor.com/patchnotes

I really wish someone from Bioware would explain their rationale on adding the level 10 grey items as 'treasure' because it really just seems like they are giving us the middle finger with those. It's like leaving a two cent tip at a restaurant. It's worse than nothing.

I agree with this. I just don't see a good reason to limit the recoloring of those outfits. Many of them look just fine with dyes in the preview window. Or to put this another way, allowing dyes on lore outfits may increase sales in the cartel market.

Two thoughts that immediately come to mind are: Was this patch, and I mean this exact version of the game, put up on the PTS prior to going live? If so did Bioware actually pay attention to the bug reports? Because these are really obvious bugs that are noticeable right away by players. If this exact version was never published to the PTS prior to going live then why not? There needs to be more testing before changes go live to catch really obvious stuff like these chat and jumping bugs. The other thing I want to say is that I don't think it's good enough to say 'We know about it and it's on schedule for the next patch'. The next patch should be for new features and minor fixes. Known annoyances that you guys just broke with your 'patch' need to be fixed with a small patch right away. There's no excuse not to. If you can't test properly then you need to fix issues ASAP and save the rest of the changes for the next patch. The speeder companion bug was a 'known issue' minutes after that 'patch' went live and yet it was allowed to stand for two weeks, including over the Double XP period where people were leveling alts and the amount of companions they had sometimes would equal how many they could send. Very annoying to send all your companions out and then realize you can't get on your speeder or you'll ruin mission. And really, how hard is it to just issue a small patch to fix that bug? That couldn't be done for two weeks? Really?

People being obnoxious is not a new thing. It existed before SWTOR and will exist after. Every game has them. Beta is a bit different because it's a closed experience but once you open the floodgates you will get every sort of player. It's up to you to decide who you do and don't want to spend time with. Instead of blaming the game and ignoring the fact that these sorts exist in every game, try doing something constructive like finding a guild to join with people you do want to be around. Also remember it's your time so if you don't want to be in a Flashpoint or any other area with certain people then don't. If one person is a problem then initiate a vote to kick. If more than one is the problem then just leave. There are plenty of other people to group with. It's really that simple.

Agreed 100%. Let people dye what they want. Some of the outfits you can't dye look quite nice when you apply dyes to them in the preview window (which the game still lets you do ) and some of the ones you can dye have a 3rd or 4th or more color you can't dye and just generally look terrible dyed. Some of the older stuff they didn't bother to even add slots to like the CE stuff and I also don't agree about the KotoR character stuff not being able to be dyed. Who cares? It's our game. Let us do what we want.

Thank you. Exactly my sentiments 100%. Stop worrying about what other people do or don't have and how they got it and just get what you want in the game the way you want to get it. The more time someone spends obsessing over how person X got Y the more unhappy they will be. People generally find whatever it is they are looking for so if you look for something to complain about you will find it and if you look for something to be happy about you will find that too. Perspective is very important. No one can make everyone happy so why not try to be content in yourself with what you have?

Okay, I totally confess to spending way too much time in the outfit preview window via GTN checking out how various outfits would look in varies dye schemes on various characters. That being said, I kind of like coordinating outfits and get happy when I pick a nice looking set out so I really don't find it a waste of time. Plus it's kind of relaxing to not be constantly shoot/slashing at stuff.

Mail is screwing up on Harbinger right now. Can't access GTN purchases I made and can't transfer crafted items to a guild mate. And yes I sat and waited, and waited and waited. Mail is just hosed on Harbinger right now. So the people who said the problems are just during double XP are wrong. It's not double XP right now, it's not a weekend, new content has not just beenadded and the mail is still hosed. I've seen numerous other people complain about it in general chat just now so it's not just me either.

Mail on Harbinger is hosed again right now. I crafted some stuff for a guild mate and was unable to get it to him do to the mail servers being down so I just logged out and called it quits for the night after trying multiple times and sitting and waiting with the mail open for 10 minutes at a time while it sat blank and nothing happened. I also apparently have mail that I can't access including some GTN purchases.

I have that piece (Regal legs) and there's definitely leggings on the male version. It's not skin. That said, if there is a change to add leggings to the female version PLEASE make a classic and non-classic version. I rather like the skirt on female characters and really don't want to see it go away.

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Agreed. Look, I am realistic and don't expect them to spend a ton of time on this due to priorities but a single sentence about what happened would be nice. Nobody likes to be ignored.

Did anyone else notice that statue also does not show up in collections even though the other pre-order items, the makrin pet and the Scourge of the Hutts title, do? There's currently no way to get that statue added to collections so if you lose it somehow there's no way to get it back, which was one of the major points of collections. That statue seems to be bugged in multiple ways now and someone really needs to look at it. The voice over laugh is gone, it won't show up in collections, there was talk about the icon for it being messed up. Other stuff in this forum gets noticed and commented on by Bioware staff and I would really appreciate it if this were too. I have a hard time believing at this point that they still don't know about it. Besides this thread constantly being bumped people on the CS forum were told to submit a report about it in game and have, but guess what? Nothing has come up it. Bioware please look at the Oggurobb statue and put the laugh voiceover back and also make sure it gets added to collections properly.

Personally, as someone whose main charactger is a Smuggler I would have preferred a bit more wheeling and dealing with the hutts and less Rambo'ing but I guess that's the nature of the game. I do think had there been more companion conversation/interjections there may have been less grumbling about the no class specific stuff because at least that's a bit of reason to run back through to make see the different companions reactions and dialog. It's not like they didn't bring the voice actors back; they did but it's mostly just 'Makeb Oooh pretty' while you're running around. If they are going to use the voice actors I would have preferred something a little more substantial from the companions. *Edit to clarify: Though I missed the companion conversation and would have preferred a bit more deviation based on class, overall I still very much enjoyed Makeb and am glad I got the expansion.

You know what? I actually like these sorts of quests! It's something I'm good at. I will freely admit right here and now I'm terrible at the harder combat stuff like heroics, flashpoints and OPs and avoid it most times so as to not drag other people down with my awlfulness, but jumping puzzles? I can do that! It does take some getting used to and a little practice at first but if you've done datacrons that's excellent practice for this sort of thing, and some of those are A LOT harder than this quest was. For those having trouble you can always see if you can have some friends do it with you. A Trooper or Bounty Hunter can grapple you over jumps and if you're playing a Jedi Knight you can force leap to other players. In my guild people who are good at the jumps have used these methods to get people who aren't up to some of the datacrons and it can work for Arcanum too.

I just want some sort of confirmation that it's a mistake and the laugh sound byte when you use Dr. Oggurobb holo statue is coming back. Mistakes happen and I'm totally fine with that. I'm sure it's not top priority but I can't wait for it to be fixed. If it turns out it was removed on purpose for some reason and won't be coming back then I'm going to be really bummed. Probably the worst scenario to me though would be if it was removed by mistake and no one on the Bioware team ever even notices. Yes this is really important to me. I know it's dumb, but the laugh was like an infectious little bit of instant happiness and who doesn't want that? That sound byte made me really glad I pre-ordered the expansion. Now it's just another silent holo statue with no character and if I want one of those I can buy one on the GTN.

Same here. Nothing suggested is working for me. I don't know how to prevent his slow status on me and he definitely can shoot the beam through LOS even walls for me. I'm really frustrated and at my wit's end.

Has there been any update on this at all or any official comment on whether removing the hutt laugh from the expansion pre-order holo statue item was intentional or not? I miss the hutt laugh!

The problem is that people are reporting that the employees at Best Buy and Gamestop are not even aware of the promotion where you buy the Cartel Coins pack in store and some are telling people they don't have it. I would rather not have to deal with that mess and just get them online, assuming the online ordering can get straightened out.

Thanks for posting this. I managed to grab some of those cards at the last second. Kind of surprised there are still CEs floating around but I already got in on that when it was $30 at K-Mart.

You could try eBay Buy It Now. I know some sellers are willing to email the code on the card. You could always try that route and ask the seller before buying. It is a bit of a risk to buy on eBay but if the seller has a good rating with lots of positive feedback they aren't going mess that up. It would be nice if stores sold codes for game time by email instead of the physical card. Best Buy seems to be doing that now with Cartel Coins although from reading the other thread about that it seems like they screwed that up and people aren't getting the codes.

I'm honestly rather disappointed that there aren't new head meshes shaped more like a cat vs just the same old human head with cat makeup on like they are in the musical Cats. I don't know if anyone here remembers the old Elder Scrolls games, but way back the Khajiit were basically like this, painted over humans. When they made Morrowind they redid them so the heads actually looked like cats, along with a lore story that they two were different types of Khajiit, and they've used the more cat-like ones ever since. If it's an issue of the helms clipping I'd probably just prefer to have no helm showing like some of the less human-like companions do over having a generic human head with cat makeup but that's just me. I'm happy to see more races but after waiting such a very long time for the Cathar I really wish they were more distinct.